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has anyone noticed that their rumored price for the 27/28 announcement date news is $2700 and not $3500?

Yeah, honestly I'd rather have they match or slightly go over the D800 price and not cheap out on the AF though.... so the $2700 has me less happy actually.

Dang the torpedoes, full speed ahead: Two bodies baby! ;)

What? I can't make stuff up like all these sites do? hehe

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« on: February 23, 2012, 09:54:41 AM »
Am I the only one who reads the CR Guys rumour as *around* $3500? This could mean it may be released at less or in fact more.

So even though it's a CR3 rumour it's still not on 100% with the price. So for all you people who are dreading the
price, whining and crying at least understand that it still isn't confirmed yet.

Good catch... and if everyone is happy on CR with that price, it might go even higher  ;)

Yep. And if it's MORE then that's absurd to leave the sub $3k FF market and it probably means a lower end FF coming out . . .

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Lenses / Re: New Lenses Coming [CR3]
« on: February 22, 2012, 04:04:28 PM »
I have no need for super-zooms, so I'm sure my opinion doesn't matter...but that is a *huge* price jump (about 10x) to go from the 100-400 f/4-5.6 plus a separate 1.4x TC, to get a 200-400 f/4 with TC built in.  How big is the market for that? You gain one stop at the long end of the zoom and have the convenience of a built-in TC, but lose the 100-200mm range and pay 10x the price.


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Well, a couple of reasons I think:
-The 100-400mm was released in 1998. (It's not a superzoom either)
-The f4 while "only a stop" needs a lot more glass than a 5.6. Look at it, it's huge and heavy. Plus, it looks to be internal zoom.
-The 200-400 will be newer and much better. It will likely be sharper with the 1.4x than the 100-400 is without it.
-Plus it has the 1.4x which does cost something.

All that said, $10,999 is higher than I expected.


$11k is higher than Dr. Evil expected  ;D

I dunno . . . I'm still waiting for something 'wow' to come out for lenses in the $500-$1500 range.

Maybe make the 70-300mm f/4-5.6L IS in black, remove the L and red-ring then charge the DO price? :)  Maybe just a respectable 100-300 f/4 for the po' fo'k . . . .

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Next 5D on February 27/28, 2012 [CR3]
« on: February 22, 2012, 03:00:17 PM »
All the specs really look great, the only thing that I am a bit upset about is the price -  $3500 seems high for the body only. I was expecting it to be a 20% increase from $2400 for the 5D2 to $2899 (max $3000) for the 5D3.

Let's hope that it's not $3500 body only!

$3.5k does sound a bit harsh . . . I hope it isn't the body as well, but who knows.  All I can say is that if it IS that much I am SO jazzed I pulled the trigger on the 5dMK ii price drop.

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 500 & 600 f/4L IS II in May
« on: February 18, 2012, 05:32:31 PM »
Let me guess, price will be announced by Mike Myers in a bald wig?

Very nice to hear/see, but I hope there's going to be something between consumer grade stuff and glass that you have to be related to the Windsors to afford . . .

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Canon General / Re: Yet Another Upgrade Advice Request
« on: February 18, 2012, 08:53:20 AM »
Sell
Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II
Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS (x2)
Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM
Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS

Buy
Canon EF 50 1.4
Canon EF-S 17-55 2.8

Go for the 50mm 1.4, but stay away from the 17-55 2.8!  If you decide to go FF anytime within the next 2-3 years the 17-55 is EF-S mount, you won't be able to use it on FF....

Honestly, I see no reason to sell the 15-85mm -- even if he goes FF, it's a good lens to hang on to.  The others I agree with selling and also getting the 50 1.4.

Juvenall mentioned the 85mm f1.8; it's a great lens, I had limited use on crop, but love it now that I have the 5D.  The 7D was available w/kit lens for something like $1300 recently, which if you sell it, you're at around $1000 (if you can get that deal).  If you find another high-quality lens you'd like to go with the 60D isn't exactly a slouch either, and the body is around $850 last I checked.


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Software & Accessories / Re: Photo editing software for a new user...
« on: February 16, 2012, 02:53:54 PM »
I'm curious about this deal for lightroom. I would like to get a legit copy, but I am not about to buy right before the next version comes out. It seems like it might be about a $30 discount for lr3 and then another 100 to get lr4. This means I pay $130 for lr4. What am I missing?

The full version of LR 4 will cost you $299 when it comes out, but a upgrade from LR3 will cost $99.

The current retail price of LR3 had dropped over time, but LR4 will go to full list price.

This means that it will cost $169 with the upgrade to LR 4 versus $299.  And, if B&H delays shipping too long, you might just fall into the free upgrade period for LR4.  Not likely though, I think that has been figured out carefully by Adobe.


Yep, I'm pretty sure Adobe and the vendors have this figured out carefully. My guess is that they are trying to get new customers while maybe selling off old stock that is sitting there. They got me. I figured for less than a hundred bucks I'll buy it even though I'm not a big fan of LR. If it sticks they know I may upgrade one day - and if not they still got my hundred buck at pretty much no cost to them at this point.

I'm not sure though about the incentive to upgrade. I don't see anything major in the new version that would be worth any additional money. Haven't tried it yet so this is just from looking at the specs.

Don't remember where the thread was on here, but someone mentioned that 5DmkII shots above ISO 3200 got better noise reduction in the v4 beta . . . if it's true, that will definitely be a selling point.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Photo editing software for a new user...
« on: February 16, 2012, 06:39:40 AM »
dstppy,

Its a wild Mink - uncommon to see in the day since they are nocturnal, but this time of year its mating season so they are a bit more wild.  He's sitting in the drain of a medium sized pond, which I believe is a modified 5-gallon bucket!  I saw him run across the ice and dive in, but I camped out till he popped his head up.  I would have killed for a 400 or 500mm zoom lens, that image is heavily cropped.

The white tuft of fur under his chin is what gives away his identity as a mink.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_mink

Thanks for the advice - I'll play with exposure next!

DeadPixel

Hehe I figured something like that.  I used to live up near Canada for the first 20 years of my life.  We pretty much call everything a weasel (and shoot at it, not with a camera) whether it be fisher, weasel, mink or someone's pet ferret.

Oddly enough, we all seemed to be able to tell the difference between those and otters. :)

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Software & Accessories / Re: Photo editing software for a new user...
« on: February 15, 2012, 09:01:36 PM »
Thanks for everyones comments!

Is that a Ferret or a Llama? :)

I'd adjust exposure (lighter) -- the lens correction is pretty much a MUST.

I think John said DxO had profiles as well.  Honestly, from neuro using it, alone, I'd consider it . . . of course if he told me to sell all my belongings and follow him and 11 other guys doing good deeds I'd probably do that too. (he's one smart guy) ;D  Well, maybe.

(EDIT)

Seriously, what *IS* that?  I can't stop staring at it, like the giant rabbit from Donnie Darko.

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Lenses / Re: New canon 24 2.8 USM - consumer or Pro ?
« on: February 15, 2012, 08:44:11 AM »
Not sure about your camera, but my 5DmkII isn't that much bigger than my 60D -- any reason you've shied away from Zooms?  The 15-85mm is a really nice lens and is 'everything but' an "L" lens in terms of build quality and IQ.

I, too, am curious what the two new primes are going to emerge as . . . hopefully they'll be the same high-quality as the better EF-S lenses they've released the past few years instead of the mass-market stuff.

You're right about the size of the bodies, but with all the primes he has I think he would be disappointed with the 15-85's sharpness.  It's a decent lens, but I would say that the 17-55 f/2.8 IS is the one that's closer to an L lens.  Also he'd have a lot of focal length overlap.

Like I said, if he wants wide the Tokina 11-16mm would be a great choice.  But if you can live with the variable aperture or just want to stick with Canon the 10-22mm is a good alternative.
That's true; if you are used to primes, zooms seem kind of toyish :)  I can't complain about the sharpness of the 15-85 though; vignetting and barrel distortion, well maybe :D

I haven't used my 10-22mm enough to figure out if the zoom creep is my fault or the lens.  I almost got a 17-55 f/2.8 IS then got the FF body, so I'm glad I didn't shell out the cash :)

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A lot of recommendations here for 3rd party zooms; anyone had any focus issues?  Read something on LR written by Roger that MFA is best to have with 3rd party lenses and Canon.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Photo editing software for a new user...
« on: February 15, 2012, 08:33:10 AM »
A pretty important point is being missed here - as is usual when people get the opportunity to shout up their own favourites...

The fact is that PaintShop Pro is very, very good - certainly more than enough to get a beginner deeply into "experienced post-processor" territory (I used it myself for a good few years) and if the OP can't get good results from it, the software ain't the problem.

Recommending an alternative won't change that fundamental.

PP software needs to be learned - true whether we're talking about PSP, Photoshop, Lightroom, the Gimp - and in the situation DeadPixel describes, bouncing from program to program is the worst thing to suggest to him.

Hrm;  are we talking about spending time learning whatever program you currently have, or finding something that fits your needs the best? 

Gimp, Photoshop and PSP all have about the same (ridiculous) learning curve.  At the end of the day,  the only one in that list that has a reasonable number of people that you can ask for tips and tricks in the real world is Photoshop.  Even tutorials and books for Gimp and PS get grossly out of date with the incrementing of a version due to the development fetish of moving and renaming stuff.

Lightroom, Aperture and one of the ACDSee products (pro I think?) are designed for photo management and moderate (but powerful) editing . . . definitely geared more towards photographers.  I don't particularly LIKE Lightroom, but it had the quickest learning curve and I spend less time at the computer.  Some people just become graphics designers and don't worry about the photography . . .

In the end, I guess, I only disagree on two points:
1) Not wanting to spend the time to master PSP, Photoshop or GIMP isn't a cardinal sin or personality flaw
2) The best time to try and switch is when you haven't gotten too used to one program or another

I do understand that the *real* Photoshop fanboys are the reason that PSP gets so little respect.  Of course, those those fanboys are also he aforementioned people that we occasionally have to consult for help. ;)

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Software & Accessories / Re: Photo editing software for a new user...
« on: February 15, 2012, 05:29:00 AM »
I used aperture for a few months and saw little use other than a place to make my photos use up more space.

I bought Lightroom on a deal at x-mas and it's been pretty good for nominally improving images with very little time involved.  The basics are to allow the profile to fix lens issues, then straighten and crop; an image takes under a second.

All editing is non-destructive and fairly straightforward; you can increase/decrease exposure with a slider bar, then undo if you want as an example.

I think I saw it on sale for $80 recently

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Lenses / Re: New canon 24 2.8 USM - consumer or Pro ?
« on: February 14, 2012, 04:49:10 PM »
Not sure if the new Canon 24mm f/2.8 IS is worth waiting or not.  It is somewhat appealing - small, lightweight, USM AF, probably pretty sharp, and IS is always convenient - but the price is really quite high for what it is.  I know a big part of that is just the exchange rates finally catching up, but still, it's pretty hard to see a US$350 lens replaced in the lineup with a US$850 lens.

If a full manual lens and size are not major concerns for you, I'd recommend checking out the samyang/rokinon 24mm f/1.4.  B&H currently has it for pre-order at $700.  I have the rokinon 35mm f/1.4 and it's an exceptional optic regardless of price (once stopped down to f/2.8 and beyond).  I've also used the 24L II and it is a very nice lens - great if you need AF, but there are better options out there for pure IQ (24mm TSE f/3.5L II, the 21mm Zeiss you mentioned).

vuilang makes a good point - foregoing a new lens and getting a full-frame body instead is another option to consider.

Thanks for the feedback. Because I mostly use the camera casually - size and weight are a concern. I dont see myself carrying around a FF body for casual use. Hence I'm "stuck" with crops untill they make FF's lighter and more mobile (this will come I assume).

The samyang 24 - is a very good idea. I'm going to check it out.

Thanks
Not sure about your camera, but my 5DmkII isn't that much bigger than my 60D -- any reason you've shied away from Zooms?  The 15-85mm is a really nice lens and is 'everything but' an "L" lens in terms of build quality and IQ.

I, too, am curious what the two new primes are going to emerge as . . . hopefully they'll be the same high-quality as the better EF-S lenses they've released the past few years instead of the mass-market stuff.

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EOS Bodies / Re: IS vs IQ
« on: February 14, 2012, 11:22:10 AM »
Let me ask this: are there any Canon lenses with IS (old or new system) that produce a less sharp image when hand-held (excluding, of course, someone who can hold freakishly still)?

I have to say, in the Canon P&S world, I was simply amazed by the images when IS was introduced . . .


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EOS Bodies / Re: *UPDATE* 5D Mark III Book Shows Up at Amazon France
« on: February 13, 2012, 04:35:25 PM »
Aha. That clinches it.  That must be the 5DmkIII release date .  . and if it's not let me be the first to post I'm selling all my stuff and moving to Nikon (obviously).

Heck, if it doesn't have (insert feature here) I'll probably sell all my stuff just for being betrayed!   ;D

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