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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?
« on: April 20, 2012, 03:45:52 AM »
If your already shooting canon, there's no need to switch, and if your already shooting nikon there's no reason to switch...

Perfect summary of the overall topic
Except for the obvious spelling mistake.  Sorry, couldn't help myself.   ;D

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While I was initially shocked by the score of 81, particularly after giving up the idea of buying a much cheaper used 1DS III in favour of the 5D III, I'm now not that bothered by it.  I am hoping that it will prompt Canon to reduce the price of the camera to be the same as the D800, but I don't think it's going to happen.

I've seen the photos from the 5D and they look great.  It is obviously better at ISO1600+ photography, compared to the D800, so whatever testing methodology they are using is flawed.

I mean, how seriously can you take a review site like DXOMark when their 'hands-on review' of the 5D Mark III began with this statement:

"Here is a first review based on the specifications and our first impressions..."

Don't they know what a hands-on review is...?   :o

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?
« on: April 18, 2012, 04:30:47 PM »
If it weren't for my modest (but significant for me) investment in my two L series lenses, I would probably buy the D800 right now, due to its lower price point.  It is $635 cheaper than the 5D where I live, which is not an insignificant amount - particularly if it can outperform or equal the 5D.  I've only ever used Canon SLRs since buying the EOS 500N in 1997, but despite this, I don't believe in the concept of brand loyalty unless they give me something for free or they have an outstanding track record for reliability...

I really wish the 5D had 14 stops of DR too - that's what my black and white film is capable of (and it looks stunning), so I could probably shoot less film, or give it up entirely.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D MKIII vs 1Ds MKIII
« on: April 17, 2012, 05:56:50 PM »
In that sort of rain I'd always use a rain sleeve like the Think Tank Hydrophobia or one of the Canon versions. There's just no point taking a chance - even a small nick on the sealing of a lens (as happened with my 70-200 II) will compromise the weatherproofing on a 1-series body. Unless you're a PJ or in a war zone, why not just use simple protective gear for your camera?
That's a valid point - although can you change lenses with one of those sleeves attached?

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D MKIII vs 1Ds MKIII
« on: April 17, 2012, 04:38:45 PM »
Where do you you live?
I'm in New Zealand.  :o

I find myself shooting in bad weather from  time to time (as seen in these photos), and needless to say, my 40D started to experience problems that day due to the rain.  Which is why, if the 5D3's weather proofing is poor, I need to keep looking at a 1-series body.  Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any quantifiable way of testing such a thing.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Buy 5D Mark III now or wait till Canon respond
« on: April 17, 2012, 09:38:24 AM »
I'm waiting for Canon to respond.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D MKIII vs 1Ds MKIII
« on: April 17, 2012, 09:14:26 AM »
I have been through www.wildlife-photos.net and the 40D was the highest used followed by the 1D4
I noticed that too - although it's nice to see what the 40D can do with a giant lens attached!  :)

I wish I knew someone with a 1DS so I can try it out for myself.  Not much chance of that though.  I even contacted the largest camera store in my city to see if they had any left, and the answer was a definite 'no'.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D MKIII vs 1Ds MKIII
« on: April 16, 2012, 07:36:51 PM »
Those of you who have the 1DS III (or 1D III) - are people generally intimidated by its size?  Do you believe that people respond differently to having it pointed at them than they would with a standard sized body?

It's just something I've been pondering.  My 1V has the flexibility of being able to add the battery grip if you *need* it (which adds 10fps performance to the body at the same time), but you can't exactly remove the grip from a 1D...

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D MKIII vs 1Ds MKIII
« on: April 16, 2012, 05:23:51 PM »
AF AF AF of the 5D mark iii.
Try it yourself.
Yes I know the 1Ds is also good,but please try the AF of the 5D mark III.
For me worth the upgrade !!!!
Yes the 5D's AF is reported to be good.  But the 1DS drives lenses at a higher voltage (from what I understand), meaning they physically respond more quickly.  Unfortunately you don't gain this capability when adding a battery grip to the 5D either.

I have played with a couple of 5D IIIs in my local camera shop, but I've never handled a 1DS (I don't know anyone with that much money to spend on a camera).  But considering I shoot with a 1V film camera, which is built the same way, I think I'm comfortable with the general feel, and I vastly prefer the push buttons on the top of the camera rather than a dial.

The biggest factor in the 5D's favour is its low ISO capability.  Looking at comparison images of ISO 1600-3200 between the 1DS and the 5D Mark 2, even the Mark 2 outperforms the 1DS in some situations, so I can only imagine what it would look like comparing it with the 5D Mark 3.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D MKIII vs 1Ds MKIII
« on: April 16, 2012, 04:30:37 PM »
These are what I think are the major items

Pro 5DIII: - better and higher iso ie > 1600
                - auto iso (not on 1DS3)
                - 6fps instead of 5fp
                - video

Pro 1DS3: - AF point metering (for me that is the dealmaker)
                 - f/8 AF
                 - better weatherproofing
                 - flash sync at 1/300 instead of 1/200
                 - no bugs as all sorted now (like pw hss etc)
                 - series 1 configurability
                 - battery is good for about 2000 shots as opposed to 800(???)

Personally I find the 1DS3 IQ slightly better than the 5DII so I doubt if there is significant IQ difference between the 1DS3 and the 5DIII
It's funny how the 5D has auto ISO.  My consumer-grade Fujifilm X10 has auto ISO (and video, for that matter), which to me makes that feature on the 5D seem very much like the all-auto 'green box' mode.  We're supposed to know what we're doing when it comes to ISOs, right?  :)

The f/8 focussing of the 1DS is something I had pondered, since my 70-200 lens is the f/4 version and one day I might decide to get a 2x extender.

My knowledge of flash sync is somewhat limited.  Does that mean that the 5D's fastest shutter speed when using a flash is 1/200s?

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D MKIII vs 1Ds MKIII
« on: April 16, 2012, 09:08:38 AM »
Okay, I can't let this topic rest just yet...

Now that I'm seeing excellent condition used 1DS Mark IIIs for $1000 less than a 5D Mark III, I'm thinking that I'll forgo the two things I thought I might someday want from the 5D (high ISO capability and video), and plunge for the 1DS's features (weather proofing, built-in grip, faster AF drive).

Is there any compelling reason why I should still consider the 5D?

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?
« on: April 16, 2012, 08:59:24 AM »
Looks like the 5D Mark III is better than the D800 at everything except megapixels:
*link*
Have a look at page 11 of this thread...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Upgrade from 400D to 5D MKII after 5 years, thoughts?
« on: April 16, 2012, 08:52:58 AM »
Im like a little kid waiting for Christmas. My biggest problem is a popular one. Lens option.

1 Get the kit lens 24-105
2 Get the 24-70
3 Wait for e 24-70ii (will the difference really be worth the extra cost)
4 Would a 16-35 be useful for wedding shots in tight spaces

Looking forward to a whole new world of photography.
As you have no doubt discovered with your current setup, you can take really great photos with even the 18-55mm kit lens.  I took some of my favourite photos with the original 300D (Digital Rebel) and the 18-55mm lens.

But getting one of the lenses you've listed will really help get the most out of the resolution of the 5D (any version).  I really enjoy using the 24-70mm lens - it spends a lot of time on my 1V film camera and occasionally visits my 40D (it's not wide enough on the crop body).  To counter this, I bought the 10-22mm lens for the 40D.  This is the equivalent of the 16-35mm lens, which is why I mentioned it.  That focal length is amazing for tight spaces, landscapes and cityscapes.  While it's ideal for wedding group photos, you'd really want to avoid taking photos of people close-up with it, because it makes their facial features distort wildly.  An 85mm prime is better for this (such as the Canon f/1.2 or the Sigma f/1.4).

The 24-70mm lens is very sharp in the centre, with some drop-off at the edges.  It's very heavy - be warned - and the version 1 has an awkward 'reverse zoom' mechanism where the lens extends at 24mm and shrinks at 70mm.  But despite that, it's a solid, bulletproof lens.  I've used it in all sorts of weather and it's never missed a beat.

Version 2 of this lens is supposed to allow one to use some of the extra focussing points in the 5d3.  I can't remember the specifics though.  It's also lighter.  Whether it's worth the significant extra outlay of cash, I seriously doubt it, but everything at the pro/semi-pro level from Canon seems to have increased in price recently.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?
« on: April 16, 2012, 03:01:17 AM »
Can the 5D3 be set up to save RAW to the CompactFlash card and JPEG to the SD card simultaneously?

Yup it certainly can.

Its the very first option of the SetUp menu.
Thanks.  I'm not sure what all the fuss is about then.  Just shoot both!  :)

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?
« on: April 15, 2012, 08:59:32 PM »
Can the 5D3 be set up to save RAW to the CompactFlash card and JPEG to the SD card simultaneously?

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