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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Pulling the trigger on a 6D
« on: October 27, 2014, 09:12:56 AM »
All I wanted to know.... Thanks a million people.....   >:(

Eh? What are you getting all huffy about?

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Pulling the trigger on a 6D
« on: October 27, 2014, 07:08:22 AM »
Well, what do we have here?  ;D ;D ;D

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Post Processing / Re: How to start using Photoshop
« on: October 27, 2014, 05:48:04 AM »
I recommend Phil Steele. His website has various video tutorials for photoshop basics. It's a paid site but reasonably priced and I just like the way he explains things in a nice easy way. I really learned a lot from him.

http://www.steeletraining.com

Also, even though am not a big Kelby fan his books are informative and I highly recommend his Photoshop bible! I still use it for reference from time to time. (See Harry's reply for the book in question).

All you really need to know in regards to using Photoshop as a photographer is working with layers. That and the sharpening / NR abilities are probably the most useful things that you'll encounter. Most processing can be done  directly in LR now, it's really just touching up photos where you need to soften skin and remove blemishes where Photoshop comes into its own. Good for tweeking that all important shot and making it look perfect!

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Pulling the trigger on a 6D
« on: October 27, 2014, 05:32:52 AM »
Bad...well I miss the joystick, even after a year, and outer focus points are not reliable even when they indicate AF was achieved, which is not often anyway. And getting there without a joystick is just too cumbersome to even try

I don't have the 6D but isn't it like every other Canon body where you can hit the AF pt button and can then rapidly scroll thru all (the few) AF points superfast using the control wheel?  On bodies with few AF points i found this method quick and easy to do without removing the camera from my head, and often far easier than the joystick.

And to the OP, I hope you got a great deal on the 6D, IMO, Canon's best IQ FF body so far.

Thanks for this tip! I'll try it out hopefully today when I get back from work!

I've been watching 6D prices ever since it came out. I shopped around and found some good deals but the retailers were unknown and had additional hidden fees so in the end I played it safe and just ordered from Amazon. I mean for the sake of $30 more I get some piece of mind! Ended up at ¥153,800 (about $1500) which is about average I guess.

Sold my 5D2 for ¥130,000 and with the Amazon selling fee I end up with ¥120,000. This upgrade cost me around $300 which isn't too bad, I definitely made more than that from paid work in the last two years so I'd say I'm even!

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Pulling the trigger on a 6D
« on: October 25, 2014, 09:43:55 PM »
I have both the 6D and 5D3 and I agree with everything said so far.  You'll be happy.  Enjoy the camera.

One thing that limits my use of the 6D vs the 5D3 is an incompatibility of the SunPak RD2000 flash.  I have 3 of these mightly little flashes that I have used for years and unfortunately they just don't meter ETTL correctly on the 6D.  This of course has nothing to do with the 6D per se, it's just something that I have to live with.  After all this time, SunPak has not issued a firmware update to work with the 6D and apparently has no plans to do so.   :(

Oddly, the little RD2000 still works fine on the 5D3 and even the much newer 70D.  It also doesn't work correctly on the SL1.  So Canon must have done something different on how they communicate with the flash on the 6D and the SL1.  Weird!

Regardless of my small issue, you'll love the camera.  ENJOY!!   :D

Thanks Rusty! I don't have any Sunpak flashes but good to know just incase. I'm using Yongnuo flashes these days and mostly off camera so it shouldn't be an issue.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Pulling the trigger on a 6D
« on: October 25, 2014, 08:17:39 PM »
Also, any thoughts on SD cards? I'm eyeing up these Sandisk Extreme Plus cards. Not quite as fast as the Pro but they're a lot cheaper. Is the Sandisk Extreme Pro overkill? (Note - I have one 16Gb Extreme Pro I use with my EOS M - which probably is overkill!)

http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00D6Y0U8E/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=47EACC2M0EKM&coliid=I1RITTBHNMPVNV

If you were comparing the Ultra (30/11.2 MB/s) to the Pro, yes, you can feel that difference in terms of a inconsistent huge delay before images appear when shooting in RAW mode, and when doing burst shooting, but I doubt there's enough difference between 80/60 MB/s and 95/80 MB/s to matter in most applications.

Yeah I have a few Ultra cards and they are so slow it's infuriating! I think I'll try the Plus out and if it's not up to speed then I'll just make it my default card for the EOS M and use my 16Gb Pro in the 6D. The high capacity Pro SD cards aren't all that much cheaper than their CF counterparts, I thought I'd be saving a fair bit. Need to sell off my CFs to fund them. I'm gonna miss CF a bit.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Pulling the trigger on a 6D
« on: October 25, 2014, 08:10:18 PM »
I have had mine for a year now. Love the wifi for commercial shoots, clients think its the bees knee and it helps a lot to see fine detail and composition  etc. GPS is great too. I shoot regularly with confidence up to 25000iso. This thing focuses where I can t see with the center AF spot.  A clear step up from the 5d2 in handling 'feel' and image quality . I regularly do commercial shoots at 1600iso.

Bad...well I miss the joystick, even after a year, and outer focus points are not reliable even when they indicate AF was achieved, which is not often anyway. And getting there without a joystick is just too cumbersome to even try.

Pared with my 40mm pancake its a little bigger but far far superior to a X100s. But the cherry on the cake is the silent shutter!

I have written a lot about the 6D here ( plus many images ) http://thelazytravelphotographer.blogspot.com/

Thanks Ivan, a had read through your review. It was very informative! I love your pictures. Just curious are you still using LR 4? Does the map feature just not work at all or is there something one needs to do first? Does LR 5 solve the issue?

My 6D should arrive on Monday. Getting excited now!

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Pulling the trigger on a 6D
« on: October 25, 2014, 11:24:37 AM »
Also, any thoughts on SD cards? I'm eyeing up these Sandisk Extreme Plus cards. Not quite as fast as the Pro but they're a lot cheaper. Is the Sandisk Extreme Pro overkill? (Note - I have one 16Gb Extreme Pro I use with my EOS M - which probably is overkill!)

http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00D6Y0U8E/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=47EACC2M0EKM&coliid=I1RITTBHNMPVNV

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Pulling the trigger on a 6D
« on: October 25, 2014, 11:17:58 AM »
Not quite sure what to do with my RRS L plate for the MkII now. Does anyone want it for a very reasonable price? Seems like a waste to not use it. I don't like ebay (it won't let me sell internationally) and Amazon.jp doesn't even list these kinds of things so I can't sell it there. It's one of those highly specialized things that are hard to sell.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Pulling the trigger on a 6D
« on: October 25, 2014, 11:11:28 AM »
It's done!! Woo-hoo!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Congrats, both on camera and birthday!  :)
I am sure you will appreciate the 6D

Thanks! Am gonna appreciate the heck out of it!!

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Pulling the trigger on a 6D
« on: October 25, 2014, 11:03:59 AM »
It's done!! Woo-hoo!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Pulling the trigger on a 6D
« on: October 25, 2014, 10:55:58 AM »
"I guess I'm just looking for some encouragement to buy the 6D"

We here for you. DO IT, DO IT, DO IT ;D

6D will be great if you don't have a need adv AF. With true Auto ISO, you will enjoy shooting in M mode more. Throw in 40pancake, you will not miss A7r at all.

Haha! Yeah I'm probably gonna order it today and have it delivered in time for my birthday on Tuesday! You had the a7r did you not? Did you end up selling it? Not what you expected? Just curious.

I've never really been interested in the pancake, especially since I acquired the EOS M. For compact shooting the 22mm lens is champion!

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Pulling the trigger on a 6D
« on: October 25, 2014, 10:49:13 AM »
Other than the much better really high ISO ability, you'll be happier with the 6D if you ever have the need to really lift the shadows.  Vertical or horizontal banding noise could be pretty ugly on the 5D II when pushed.  Seems far far better on the 6D.  The electronic leveler is nice as well if shooting in the dark/night much. 

I have a few full sized high iso crop examples here shooting the Milky Way.  http://www.extremeinstability.com/2013-5-4b.html

Yeah, one of the things that attracted me to the 6D was the high ISO abilities. I found myself using ISO 3200 quite frequently and it was OK on the 5D2 but could be cleaner. It just felt dated, especially when I keep seeing shots like these! Those examples look amazing! Thanks for the link!

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Pulling the trigger on a 6D
« on: October 25, 2014, 08:28:43 AM »
I have both and my rather random thoughts would as follows:

The 6D is a really good fit in hand, better than the 5D/5DII. Although only slightly smaller it is more 'handy'.

The AF seems to be more precise than the 5D/5DII on all points.

The 6D uses some kind of colour metering whereas the 5DII doesn't. Haven't made my mind up on this yet, it behaves differently to the 5DII in some situation ( bright blue).

The overall 'IQ' is remarkable. There is a subtle improvement in low ISO, very good, film like tonal graduation and greater latitude at both ends of the EVA range. High ISO is astonishing and way ahead of the 5DII from about ISO 800 onwards. Overall I would put the 6D up against an A7r any day, there is not as much practical difference between 20 mp and 36 mp on FF as you may think, and the whole DR range on the 6D is very useable, making real world differences academic most of the time.

The 6D has a polymer top plate which feels identical to the mag alloy top of the 5DII but does get scuffed and scratched more easily as it is relatively soft.

Now the bad bits, at least for me. It uses the 'second tier' userface and ergonomics. The controls work fine per se, but moving between each is annoying, at least for me. However as you have sold your 5DII you won't have this issue. The top command wheel is very softly click stopped, and the rear command wheel is, well to be polite, disappointing after the 5DII. Also the flash compensation has to be done via the main menu although you can assign it to quick menu and then it is quite useable to be fair. So to summarise I'd say it's not as 'positive' on the controls as the 5DII series, but you get used to it and then it works fine.

Thanks! This is great info about the ergonomics. Flash compensation is something I rarely use nowadays, I mainly work in manual flash so it's not an issue. I did notice a slightly less robust feel in the camera shop but the MKII was a brute and it shouldn't be a surprise that the 6D is not as positive as you say in that respect.

I don't really need a rugged camera but as long as it holds up in everyday use I'm OK with that.

I noticed more and more that my camera stayed in M mode and I don't think I ever used the quick menu on it. As long as I can change shutter speed and aperture the same as all Canon cameras I'll be happy!

How's the scroll and pan speed when when you zoom into the preview? The 5DII was slow, as was the 7D before they released the v2 firmware. Does the 6D have that issue or is it running like a greased 7D pig?

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Pulling the trigger on a 6D
« on: October 25, 2014, 07:14:36 AM »
Hey guys I just sold my 5D MkII as I thought it's time to get in with modern society and get a camera from this era. I hear good things about the 6D. Does anyone want to share their thoughts? Was it as glorious as you imagined or do you wish you had coughed up for a MkIII instead? I'm pretty sure the 6D would be more than enough camera for me until 2020 but still nice to consider other options!

I guess I'm just looking for some encouragement to buy the 6D. Any negatives I should be aware of? Other than losing a megapixel and 1/8000s? (Neither of which I care about). I've played around with the six a few times at a camera store and I think I can get used to the directional pad thingy instead of the joystick. Mostly use centre AF point anyway. I think the MKIII AF would be wasted on me. (I think the 7D AF was wasted on me too!  :P)

I have to admit the Sony a7r does look a bit tempting when you have a vacancy in your DSLR kit.   ;)

Nah, let's not go there.

Any thoughts before I pull the trigger?? Or forever hold your peace?

(Note - I shoot a variety of stuff, most of it doesn't move).


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