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Lenses / Re: 24-70 f/4L IS vs 24-105L
« on: June 13, 2013, 07:53:48 PM »
Corners look a lot sharper in the 24-70 shots. Though the 24-105 shot would do the job. Considering how much I shoot at the wide end and the fact that I'm getting fussy about corner sharpness these days I think I might have to consider the 24-70. It's about $100 cheaper as a kit with the 6D. Then again the 24-105 is $200 cheaper as a kit!


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Lenses / Re: 24-70 f/4L IS vs 24-105L
« on: June 13, 2013, 07:26:07 PM »
Thanks Jack for posting the images. The shots look good.

@pensive and rs - I thought about that but I'd still rather have two bodies than one. My future plan is to have a 5D III and 6D. Just making the transition gradually and within means. And I just like the 7D, I enjoy using it!

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Lenses / Re: 24-70 f/4L IS vs 24-105L
« on: June 13, 2013, 12:05:02 PM »
At Building Panoramics we have both lenses. I can assure you the new 24-70 f4 is significantly better than the 24-105. Too early to tell on the IS yet.

Is it worth the hefty price ? If you can afford it then yes. If not, don't loose any sleep over it !

I've just posted a pic in 'best landscapes' shot on the 24-70. You can see a much bigger version on our website.

Wow amazing images! I only saw a handful, I'll check out more tomorrow. Can you post some 24-70 shots on this thread please? Don't have to be panos just anything shot with that lens. Thanks.

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Lenses / Re: 24-70 f/4L IS vs 24-105L
« on: June 13, 2013, 11:29:18 AM »
One thing to consider is the horrible barrel distortion of the 24-105mm at the wide end

I guess this is a personal thing, but in the real world it is only really noticeable in critical shots and can easily be corrected in post if needed. FWIW chromatic aberrations (I really hate CA) are largely absent at all apertures and focal lengths so that's a good thing.

I'm still considering selling my 24-70 f/2.8 L. The 24-105 is that good...

Yeah barrel distortions not a major issue. To be honest I'll be using the 17-40L for most landscape stuff. The 24-105L is really just for travel and days where I can't be arsed lugging extra gear around. The 17-55 is great but it's not weathersealed and doesnt work on full frame. Otherwise I love that lens. It does everything. Great combo with a 7D.


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Lenses / Re: 24-70 f/4L IS vs 24-105L
« on: June 13, 2013, 11:19:34 AM »
Can't argue with that! Cheers Neuro! Think I might be swayed towards the 24-105, second hand. Who knows how long it will take for the 24-70 f4 price to come down.

Oops, missed your last reply. I see you've decided, best of luck with the 24-105mm!

Always open to some more views on the matter! Now, how is the 6D? Are you happy with it? I'm thinking of (well kinda already in the process of) selling my 5DII for a 6D. I'm keeping the 7D, mostly for it's speed and AF. I wouldn't want a 5DII and 6D, too similar, and I like having a crop body as a sort of tele-convertor.  We'll see what the 7D II brings though, been keeping a close eye on that.

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Lenses / Re: 24-70 f/4L IS vs 24-105L
« on: June 13, 2013, 09:45:33 AM »
I'm interested in buying a new 24-something lens for full frame purposes. Also how would these lenses compare with the 17-55 in terms of IQ?

Worth noting that the true FF equivalent of the EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS lens is a hypothetical 27-88mm f/4.5 IS - so the 24-105L on FF is wider, longer, and faster (in terms of DoF for equal framing) than the 17-55 on APS-C. 

I went from 7D + 17-55 to 5DII + 24-105 and the latter combo delivers much, much better IQ.

Can't argue with that! Cheers Neuro! Think I might be swayed towards the 24-105, second hand. Who knows how long it will take for the 24-70 f4 price to come down.

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Lenses / Re: 24-70 f/4L IS vs 24-105L
« on: June 13, 2013, 06:34:01 AM »
I recently sold off my 85 1.8 and 50 1.8 II so have about $400 or so extra. Was going to buy a Sigma 35 but might do this upgrade first. Decisions decisions.

 ???

Are you really missing the gap between 40-70mm?

Thats a fair point! However at casual parties and events a lot of group or people shots fall into the 28 - 50 ish range that gets some of the background too. Wider than that is too distorted for people off center.

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Lenses / Re: 24-70 f/4L IS vs 24-105L
« on: June 13, 2013, 04:34:39 AM »
Thanks for the replies, I'll check out Building Panos after work.

The extra reach would be nice for traveling. I hate taking extra lenses and wish I could have a one trick pony. Though I've heard (and noticed myself) that the 24mm end of the 24-105 isn't great. I like my building and landscape shots so that might dissapoint me. My 17-55 gets used at 17mm a lot.

I don't do macro but sometimes I like to take close up type shots. Things like rings at weddings or flowers, that sorta thing. I usually just crop the image to make it look like a close up. Maybe the 24-70 f/4 would get me into macro? Who knows.

Yeah I think I'll wait for the price to drop. It's tempting to get a 2nd hand 24-105L. Currently the 24-105 is going for about $750 2nd hand (¥75,000) but $950 new (¥96,000). The 24-70 f4 is going for ¥127,000 (I live in Japan hence the yen).

I recently sold off my 85 1.8 and 50 1.8 II so have about $400 or so extra. Was going to buy a Sigma 35 but might do this upgrade first. Decisions decisions.

 ???

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Lenses / 24-70 f/4L IS vs 24-105L
« on: June 13, 2013, 12:21:29 AM »
Does anyone have experience with these two lenses? In particular, the IS on both. I'm interested in buying a new 24-something lens for full frame purposes. Also how would these lenses compare with the 17-55 in terms of IQ? Anyone got sample images of the new 24-70 f/4L?

I've had a play about with both lenses. The 24-105L has the advantage of being almost half the price. But is it a mistake to go from a 17-55 to 24-105? Image stabilization is more important than wider apertures so for now the 24-70II is out.

Not a fan of Tamron so that's out too.

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Lenses / Re: 70-200 Choices
« on: June 12, 2013, 08:45:24 AM »
If you earn money from these jobs you should really be investing in the 2.8 II, why spend £1000 for such an old lens? Might seem like a lot of money but the lens will eventually pay for itself when your clients see stunning images.

If budget is tight I would recommend a second hand 135L. Second hand will get you at least £100 off that lens. I got mines second hand, and it looked barely used, for a bargain. It will mean less flexibility and no IS but you can get the job done by bumping up ISO or adding flash. Then when you've saved up the rest of the money sell it and buy the 2.8 II.

Crop body plus the cheap 100 f/2 or 85 f/1.8 can do the trick too if you're really strapped for cash.

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Software & Accessories / Re: About to start with Focal
« on: June 12, 2013, 03:45:56 AM »
I'm using a laser-printout of the target. I remember someone commenting in another thread that the printout should be taken using an inkjet printer - is this correct? If yes, why?
strange ... wonder what could be so critical that one has to use only inkjet

Yeah I was wondering about that, it's written on the focal website too. I just ignored it and used laser as that's what the convenience store had!

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Canon General / Re: EOS 5D Mark III w/24-70 f/4L IS Kit Coming Soon
« on: June 12, 2013, 03:41:16 AM »
we always had the 24-70f4LIS kit here in japan.
and there are two EOS6D kits here :the 24-70f4LIS kit and the 24-105f4LIS kit.
the 24-70mmf4LIS kit is about 43000yen(roughly 430USD) more expensive than the 24-105mm f4LIS kit.
I have been debating which kit to buy for a long time, I've decided to get the 6D for its extreme high ISO capability combined with the -3 EV lowlight AF but not sure about which std lens to get with it.
I also consider just  a 6D body alone +EF35mmf2ISUSM  but  it is cheaper to get the kit than the body alone.
the 5D3 is a great body but the 5D3 kit is just a bit too expensive , especially for a dual mount user like me.
if I decide I can live with only Canon kit , then I will get the 5D3 in addition to the 6D, though for now , I think I want to keep my Nikon and Fuji systems intact in addition to the Canon.
 
BTW, Canon says the 24-70mmf4LISUSM lens got some special tough coating to protect the front element of the lens and  this is why the lens does not need any filter to protect the front element of the lens.
If this is true , I will get that lens with the 6D.

Difference between those two kits is more like 35.000 yen at the moment. Also, body alone is cheaper than the kit, unless you mean buying body and lens separately compared to kit. 6D body starts at around 146.000 yen, 24-105 kit at 211.000 yen.

I don`t use front filters to protect my lenses. If you get a cheap filter it will lower your picture quality, and an expensive filter is not really much cheaper than replacing the front element of your lens.

I don`t really like the feel of the 6D, it feels cheaper and more "plasticy" in my hands compared to my 40D. But in the end it`s the internals that count.
I also didn`t feel like spending 125.000 yen extra for the 5D Mk III, as the 6D should be good enough for my purposes.

Can you tell me where in Japan you saw the 6D for 146,000 yen? I've only seen it go down to about 150,000 - 155,000 on amazon.jp

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Sony vaio vpcf13wfx
Processor Type : Intel® Core™ i7-740QM
Processor Technology : Quad Core
Processor Speed : 1.73GHz1 with Turbo Boost Technology20 up to 2.93GHz1
Processor Cache : 6MB
8GB RAM (via 2 Crucial 4GB modules, upgraded from the standard 4GB).
500GB disk space
Windows 7 64bit

Currently running CS5 and LR3 and even with both applications open it runs smooth. The only time I run into issues seems to be extensive use of the adjustment brush in LR - it slows everything down.

I should mention my editing is pretty light, no pannos (they slow things down like crazy) and some HDR (these seem to be relatively quick).

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Software & Accessories / Re: About to start with Focal
« on: June 11, 2013, 10:11:32 AM »
I used the screen of my macbook pro retina as target, so I had no problems with light indoor.
Good tip ... thanks for sharing.

I thought you could only use the printed target? Is any type of screen OK? This would be helpful as getting over 10EV indoors even on a sunny day is tough (without turning on florescent lights - which is a no no ... so ...).

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Software & Accessories / Re: About to start with Focal
« on: June 11, 2013, 10:04:20 AM »
I found it a bit difficult to line up the target at first. Then I switched on my electronic level on my 7D and used that to get my camera lined up. This worked so well that when I switch cameras, the tripod was still lined up correctly and I found the target in no time.

Also I recommend using a room with a lot of space and don't walk about or move while it's testing.

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