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Lenses / Re: Canon 50L - Love or Hate?
« on: Today at 06:43:09 AM »
I have the 100L, but saying something is sharp wide open at f/2.8 isn't really a fair comparison.  There is a world of difference @ f/1.2 and f/1.4 than f/2.8. 

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Canon General / Re: "MAP" pricing....How long will it last????
« on: April 16, 2014, 11:50:08 PM »
Didn't get in the door fast enough on that great deal?  Too bad, maybe next time.  Forget to mail in your rebate?  Tough. 

They were pushing cell phones, cases, bags, frames, anything but cameras and lenses.  If they don't want to give the big retailers larger bulk discounts, then don't.  But quit playing games with the pricing to the consumer.

If you see a deal... and you don't buy... then that is kinda your fault.  I worked in a retail setting and the buyers would negotiate prices with the manufacturers for sales... and during that time frame, the cost to the retailer would be lowered (or at least that is the crap management fed us).  So if the price was $1000 last week during the July 4th sale... and it is $1500 this week without a sale... the cost went from $900 to $1300... so the absolute best the retailer could do without taking a bath is sell it for $1300...

As for Cell phones... the retailer I worked for got $200 in profit for one new line.  So if you consider that the profit margin for some items is 10%... then that means that the retailer has to sell a $2000 item to a customer to equal the profit, which is a tougher pill to swallow than paying $70 per month for 24 months... and is about $1700.

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Canon General / Re: "MAP" pricing....How long will it last????
« on: April 16, 2014, 11:43:17 PM »
I too was looking at buying a new DSLR but not now.  I just sold a 40D and T3i in anticipation of snagging a 6D or 5DMK III.

Have you looked into Canon USA's refurbed units with 1 year factory warranty and 20% off MAP?  6Ds are available last time I checked.

Call Canon and ask about they loyalty program.  You send in an old film canon camera that you bought off craigslist for $10 (or I'll sell you one for $10), and they give you 20% off the refurb price.  Not all bodies are available... but I think the mkiii and the 6d are now... but I havne't really checked in a while because I have my body and I hopefully won't be upgrading for many years now.

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Canon General / Re: "MAP" pricing....How long will it last????
« on: April 16, 2014, 11:40:34 PM »
And not that it is related to much of anything, but I bought about $10,000 in gear from Amazon last year... and I'll probably do the same this year too... so having a retailer (even a GIANT one where they don't know you by name), but they do know you by your buying habits... it helps.

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Canon General / Re: "MAP" pricing....How long will it last????
« on: April 16, 2014, 11:38:30 PM »
Minimum advertised pricing is just that... advertised.  Give a retailer a call, ask to speak to a salesman and give a valid explanation as to why you would like a lower price. 

Heck bluff and say X store is willing to offer you the lens you want at $800... but their store is $1000, but you have a long standing relationship with this store and you would prefer to buy from them since you believe in loyalty to a retailer... but $200 is too much... are they willing to match.

With stores, it isn't always about the bottom line in regards to profit, though no store likes to willingly to sell for less than cost (lord knows I don't), but if you are close to the cost, and you have been a good customer or even if you haven't bought from them before but they want to earn your business on this purchase and possibly 20 more purchases down the line... or maybe you buy the lens for $800 but you also need a filter at a price that is the same across the internet... an umbrella too... and while we are at it... throw in some lens cleaner... ok... they are selling the lens at cost, but they are making a small profit on the extras and they are earning a customer.

Be bold.  Don't pay sticker price at a car dealer... and don't just bow down to MAP.

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Lenses / Re: Canon 50L - Love or Hate?
« on: April 16, 2014, 08:29:50 PM »

I'm starting to ramble... I need one of yall to loan me your 50L for a week and I'll see if my opinion changes. :)

If you live in the NY/NJ USA area we could do a CR gear meet in Central Park and take some test shots, heh.

For those who have used the 85L II, if you think the 85L II is amazing it is hard to imagine how you would not love the 50L output just as much once you learn how to tame it.

I'm in Central PA... I think we are planning a NYC trip this summer and I plan on going to the B&H Superstore and see what they have available for me to demo.  I have a few things on my to try list... 50 art (and I might as well add the 50L to the list), the 200-400 f/4 1.4x, a 24-70 mkii, and I'm not sure what else...

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Lenses / Re: Canon 50L - Love or Hate?
« on: April 16, 2014, 05:32:31 PM »
I think the problem is that I read this article...

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/01/the-great-50mm-shootout

And the 50 usm beat or matched the 50 L in sharpness.  This is when I owned and primarily used the 50mm f/1.8 as my main lens. 

Quick story about the f/1.8.   I bought it for $75ish and we went to Disney World... and I proceeded to shoot every image  @ f/1.8.  So when I finally looked at the pictures, the AF selected a subject that wasn't my subject (I was a novice then... so not forgivable... but I learned from my mistakes).  Also the lens was soft... very soft @ f/1.8... center to corners.  Eventually I learned the lens sharpens up at around f/2.8 give or take. 

So when I bought the 50 usm because it was the best bang for the buck... I shot at around f/2.8 and I was bored with the images.  They were good... I got many a complement... but I miss shooting REALLY wide open. So the 50 usm collected dust.  And I had no interest in the 50L because the sharpness was on par... and while I completely acknowledge that the bokeh and the color rendition are better... I wasn't willing to shoot at f/2.8 again.

So I harbored these rather negative emotions about the 50L for the past 3ish years... and that bias is hard to give up. 

So for me... I can't respond to any of those options... I would say... because of the MEH factor of the other 50's in my life, I didn't want the 50L.  I don't want to say I hate it... but for the money... I would so rather get other lenses in my bag.

Assuming $1300... I'd lean towards an 85 f/1.8 for portraiture, a 50usm for the focal length which is handy and throw on a 24-105... (which puts me over by around 50 bucks give or take). 

I'm starting to ramble... I need one of yall to loan me your 50L for a week and I'll see if my opinion changes. :)

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Lenses / Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« on: April 16, 2014, 05:18:11 PM »
This is much the same as the 35L vs 35A debate.....  If you want a sharper lens with harsher bokeh go with the Sigma Art Lenses... if you want an overall smoother rendered pic go with the Canon equivalent.   Though the 35A is  sharper (I owned it for a few months) the 35L rendered the better image to my eyes...  Sharpness isn't everything.

So you were a product tester?  How exactly do you go about getting on that list?

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Lenses / Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« on: April 16, 2014, 01:24:17 PM »


Truce? 

Also, Dylan, that's the same filter I have.


It's good to be passionate about something... And by George aren't we all.

Even though I don't have a dog in the fight anymore... I still do like order.  I like simple equations that explain complicated truths like...

Canon 85<sigma 85< Canon 85L. 

Simple... most people would agree if cost isn't considered... And I think for me I want to see

Canon 50 f1.8 < Canon f1.4 < Sigma f1.4 < Canon 50L < Sigma 50 art < otus. 

But I understand it isn't that simple...

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Lenses / Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« on: April 16, 2014, 09:27:21 AM »
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000RXW0AI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1397654437&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40

Dylan, mac... I was thinking abit a b&w nd and using a step down filter.  77 will fit the 70-200 and the 24-105... but sure about the 100l, but I know it is smaller so I can use a step down ring there as well. 

Having said that... I've heard horror stories about the screw grooves being wrong and people having to cut the ring off their filter and lens... so is there a better brand of step down?


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Lenses / Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« on: April 15, 2014, 10:08:08 PM »
Congrats JD ;) You gonna LOVE this lens. Post some photos whenever you ready.

I took Neuro advice and bought B&W 3stop ND filter for this lens. Shooting wide open in day time is fun.

Thanks.  That's not a bad idea re: the filter.  I like my f/2.8 lenses... but there is just something fun about shooting at f/1.4 or f/1.8... and now I can push that to f/1.2. 


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Lenses / Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« on: April 15, 2014, 09:11:07 PM »
I suppose it is time for me to drop out of this conversation... I just bought an 85L mkii... so... I guess the 50mm sigma wasn't meant to be.

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Lenses / Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« on: April 15, 2014, 06:35:41 PM »
Just sold my Canon 50 1.4 on craigslist for $315.
How much did you pay for it originally?

the cheapest I've ever bought it new was $285... so that would been a nice thirty dollar profit.

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Lenses / Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« on: April 15, 2014, 01:14:53 PM »


Finally, science, graphs, test chart shots, and lousy comparisons aside, what really matters is the photo.  We can spend our entire lives measurebating, but that's just a sad way to live. 

Measure bating... nice.

The 50L brings out such passion in people... I haven't liked it since I read that the 50 usm is as sharp.  So I've been biased a while... but I'm trying to not let that cloud my judgement one way or another.  I'd like a 50, but I don't need a fifty... so this is just a luxury purchase... but the article was so antithetical to everything that has come out or been rumored.

It felt biased... from the moment they were photographing a dandelion outdoors.  A slight gust of wind will change the location of the subject... not to mention, the dandelion is so blurry to begin with that it is hard to tell exactly where they were focusing.  And if they did hand hold, that is just irresponsible.  Neither lens has is and while the photographer may be competent... I trust a good tripod more.


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Lenses / Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« on: April 15, 2014, 08:23:04 AM »
When I saw the one sample shot where the coin or what ever it was was in different lighting than the other... I was annoyed. I was a science major in college and it seems pretty obvious that a variable you want to control for is lighting.

Apologize if this has already been posted, but to me this has been the most useful comparison and breakdown yet:

http://lcap.tistory.com/entry/Sigma-50mm-f14-dg-hsm-Art-Review


I agree.
btw it was already posted


Okay, thanks!

I see a few other sites that do sample images but they front or back focus and overexpose and do NO editing, and to me that misrepresents what one could actually get. IF they want to post samples that are untouched, they should at least focus properly and provide the original raw's for us to play with.



100% correct. I guess this is showing what sites do proper review and therefor are relevant source

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