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EOS-M / Re: Anything new on EOS-M3? How it may compare to A6000?
« on: September 08, 2014, 06:01:35 AM »
Just because the EOS M system is distributed in Japan doesn't mean it's selling like hot cakes there. I don't have exact figures (which I would be curious to see) but of the professionals I know in Japan, none of are on board with the EOS M.

When I travel to Japan (fairly often), I never see the EOS M making a big appearance in camera stores. The Kiss (aka Rebel) series always have entire aisles dedicated to them. The pro series gear usually has 2nd largest appearance, and in fact, I barely recall seeing any EOS M appearance. I'm sure it was there, I just didn't notice it.

I don't think that's surprising as the camera nore the system as a whole seem to be aimed at professional use.

I think you can see from those sales figures that the Japanese mirrorless market is very different to that in the west. Beyond being vastly larger its also stratified more like DSLR markets with entry level cameras selling more, its only in the much smaller western market that higher end mirrorless makes up most sales.

That's the big mistake in a lot of market analysis I see, people take the Japanese figures for total sales but then consider that those sales are similar to that which we see in the west. The big difference I think that potentially makes is that very small viewfinderless mirrorless sales are arguably not cannibalising the DSLR market as much as higher end sales.

I think the picture you get is less that the Japanese are "ahead of the curve" in switching from DSLR's to mirrorless and more that a larger percentage of the Japanese population value quality enough to buy a camera with a larger sensor. A lot of Japanese EOS M users would I'd guess be the equivalent of people who might just use a basic compact or a phone in the west not those who would buy a DSLR.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Silly Photokina Rumors
« on: September 07, 2014, 06:10:26 PM »
Sony are planning a tachyon sensor that can see backwards in time last I heard, no FE lenses though.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D750 to be Canon 5D3 competitor?
« on: September 07, 2014, 01:28:02 PM »
People who buy 5D3 or D800 or D750 or whatever so-called close competitor model typically have invested in either system for a while. Some people like switching system because certain features of that system attract them, but most cannot afford to switch back and forth just because of some new features of the camera body. The completion in is segment is more about the high end lens not the body.

Your potentially still going to lose new users of course and FF does seem to be growing relative to ASPC recently but I'd agree you can likely get away with not giving everyone what they want for a bit longer. You look at Canon and Nikon recently and they effectively swapped places from the last generation of FF bodies with Nikon selling the high resolution body and Canon the action/all rounder. I'd guessing the thinking behind that was that they needed to service the market that wasn't happy with the previous generation and then leave servicing the market they'd met with that generation for a few years until demand had peaked.

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Landscape / Re: Within Forests
« on: September 06, 2014, 11:26:59 AM »


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The issue for me wouldn't be that you would see no improvement with 50 MP but that I'd question how much demand there would be for such a camera on the Sony FE mount.

You could argue that it might appeal to those adapting Canon DSLR lenses I spose, something like the new 24-70mm would probably get much of the benefit but really is that a big market?

The FE system thus far seems to have prioritised size over performance for all its wideangle options and whilst the 70-200mm f/4 seems a bit better in that reguard is anyone going to choose the FE system for say wildlife shooting with its AF performance?

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EOS-M / Re: Anything new on EOS-M3? How it may compare to A6000?
« on: September 05, 2014, 08:06:50 AM »
AF comparison of mirrorless cameras.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up8K_xd_iwU

They seems to be much better than rebels. I think it is better for me to shift to mirrorless (smaller footprint and look modern)  from Rebel. Only thing is lens selection to match. There are very nice APS-C lens to fit in the budget of rebels without compromising much.

I would be pretty confident that in terms of AF tracking there not even compared to a Rebel. That test really doesn't push performance much, good light, distant subjects shot at F/4.

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For one, it could pretty much eliminate the reach gap between APS-C parts and FF, assuming you could maintain a high frame rate (and we know that's possible...Canon achieved 9.5fps at 120mp.) You could crop any part of a 50mp frame, and have the same kind of reach as a 20-24mp APS-C camera.

True and I spose you can argue an advantage for action shooting both in cropping from a larger area and that the AF points can cover a larger part of the crop. I don't see this being a big benefit from the FE system though given its AF performance, handling and lack of tele options though.

Don't get me wrong I certainly wouldn't say no to 50+ MP on an replacement for my D800 when I need one but even as mostly a landscape shooter who often prints large(A2 and up) its not something that would have be rushing out to buy a new camera.

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The problems I think Sony would have is that firstly I'm not sure theres massive demand for resolution above the existing 36 MP and secondly its questionable how there current(and future) FE lens lineup would perform on such a camera as there are already serious issues with the wider lenses with 24/36 MP.

Honestly I'm starting to think that Sony might be in panic mode with the threat of the camera(not sensor) division being shutdown hanging over their heads such is the rate of new releases.

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Black & White / Re: Your best Architectural & City B&W shots?
« on: September 04, 2014, 05:20:18 AM »



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EOS-M / Re: Anything new on EOS-M3? How it may compare to A6000?
« on: September 04, 2014, 02:34:24 AM »
I think viewing the M as "dead" is taking a very US centric view when in reality it was likely always planed as a system aimed mostly at the Japanese market were ultra compact mirrorless sales dwarf those in the US.

My guess is that we'll see an M similar to the one around now with the 70D sensor at some point next year, as to whether we see a larger body I think that's anyones guess.

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Landscape / Re: Flowers and other Flora
« on: September 03, 2014, 02:46:21 PM »



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Landscape / Re: Beautiful sunsets
« on: September 03, 2014, 12:42:22 PM »

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Landscape / Re: Within Forests
« on: September 02, 2014, 02:36:15 PM »

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Landscape / Re: Rural Landscapes
« on: September 02, 2014, 01:53:06 PM »

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Landscape / Re: Within Forests
« on: September 02, 2014, 07:01:38 AM »

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