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PowerShot / Re: PowerShot G17 Mentioned Again [CR2]
« Last post by noncho on Today at 10:10:45 AM »
Hm, that larger sensor sounds strange for Gxx series, especially with such lens.
Maybe the best "larger" compromise would be 2/3" sensor as 1"would make it very big and expensive...
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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon Disappointment
« Last post by IgotGASbadDude on Today at 10:03:13 AM »
You are outside of the warranty period. You have absolutely no basis for a complaint.

Summary from Judge Logical:

"The defendant may (or may not) have produced a defective product. You failed to meet your responsibility of identifying the defect during the clearly defined terms of the warranty. Judgement for defendant. Case closed."

END OF THREAD . . .
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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon Disappointment
« Last post by kfreels on Today at 09:55:37 AM »


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A warranty is not exactly a contract, however, in most cases (including yours) it acts like one.

When you agreed to purchase the camera, the warranty that came with it was one of the terms. You agree to pay $1500 to the retailer, and the retailer delivers to you a camera, AND conveys the warranty from Canon. Canon promises to fix defects in the camera, free of charge, for ONE YEAR. NOT IN PERPETUITY.

You do have a say in your warranty coverage. You could, not buy that camera. Or, you could purchase supplemental coverage (Squaretrade for example). More coverage = more money. Less coverage = less money. Just like auto, or home insurance.

If you buy a refurbished camera, the warranty period is less (90 days for example), so you expect to pay less for a refurbished camera than new. If you buy a used camera out of warranty, you expect to pay significantly less, because it's used, and comes with no warranty. As you can see, the warranty itself actually has a monetary value, which you already paid for, and didn't use. That's not Canon's fault, that's your fault.

You are outside of the warranty period. You have absolutely no basis for a complaint.

So I understand your frustration but you have very little recourse aside from b*tching about it on a forum. Canon has in fact honored their part of the warranty - in fact they've gone beyond that, by offering you a discounted repair - you are the one who is asking for too much - you are asking for a free out of warranty repair.

I don't know what the cause of the problem was - when I first read that it was in a waterproof bag for essentially two years, the first thing that popped into my mind was condensation issues - but who knows. It could very well have been a faulty circuit board from the factory, as you suggest. It could have been someone dropping the box from a shelf at the retailer. It could be a hundred different things, and when you're out of the warranty period, it doesn't actually matter what caused the damage - you are responsible.

I am sorry that seems to be a difficult truth for you to accept but pretty much no one on this thread shares your anger and your outrage because you are the one who has a lot of responsibility in this matter, and you don't seem to be accepting any of it. You cannot be helped, because you are not accepting of help.

I wish you good luck, and I would not blame you if you decided to switch back to Nikon, or Pentax, or mirrorless, or whatever. I can understand this experience has soured you on Canon. However I'll leave you with a warning - in the same situation, a different company would have done the exact same thing as Canon. You are not going to get better service from Sony or Samsung or anybody else.

Good luck.
This is absolutely correct. I couldn't have said it better myself except maybe to summarize it... "Sh*t happens".
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Lenses / Big filters
« Last post by keithcooper on Today at 09:55:29 AM »
I spoke to a few filter makers at the Photography Show in the UK last week - several said that they have a solution for the 11-24 on its way.

As someone who doesn't currently use filters on wide lenses I'm keen to see what they can come up with.

However, I'm still minded to wonder about the overall usefulness of a polariser at 11mm, given the change in polarisation in the sky at such wide angles?
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Business of Photography/Videography / Re: County fairs, what sells?
« Last post by old-pr-pix on Today at 09:53:33 AM »
In our area photographers don't seem to have much success at fairs.  The typical approach is to have a booth with a dozen or so large, high priced canvas prints (16x20 and bigger) and then several cases of similar, smaller (5x7, 8x10) prints.  Sometimes the small prints sell.  I can't believe the average semi-pro is really making money this way.  More likely they are hoping to justify being able write-off costs of equipment and their travel to take shots.  While the photos are usually technically well done; subject mater and composition can be problematic.   Picking subjects that "click" with the fair goers is more of an art than taking the photos.

Things I've seen work:
1) low priced items such as note cards with good landscape/nature/flower shots on front.
2) selling of specialty cut mats (the photos are just samples to show-off the mats)
3) local content can sometimes click if you can show pix which is obvious no one can match with their iPhone -- remember, everyone thinks they are a photographer now!
4) I've seen nature/flower/birds work when it is absolutely stunning -- at one fair there was a nationally recognized Audubon Society photographer doing good business.  It was obvious that matching his work was far beyond the skills and patience of most anyone (certainly beyond mine).

I wish you good luck.  It can be fun if you enjoy chatting with people and answering the "what camera do you use?" question a hundred times a day.  I've considered doing the same but continue to reject the thought as a great way to ruin what is now just a wonderful hobby for me.
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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon Disappointment
« Last post by DRR on Today at 09:30:19 AM »
We are past making sense now,...and that's fine.

Couldn't agree with you more.

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Moving on.

Warranty is not a contract.
A contract cannot be binding when only one side signs it.
I, as a consumer, have absolutely no say in it.
Warranty could be a contract but it is not necessarily.
Mainly, it is a promise of honor to honor a product in case it is defective.


A warranty is not exactly a contract, however, in most cases (including yours) it acts like one.

When you agreed to purchase the camera, the warranty that came with it was one of the terms. You agree to pay $1500 to the retailer, and the retailer delivers to you a camera, AND conveys the warranty from Canon. Canon promises to fix defects in the camera, free of charge, for ONE YEAR. NOT IN PERPETUITY.

You do have a say in your warranty coverage. You could, not buy that camera. Or, you could purchase supplemental coverage (Squaretrade for example). More coverage = more money. Less coverage = less money. Just like auto, or home insurance.

If you buy a refurbished camera, the warranty period is less (90 days for example), so you expect to pay less for a refurbished camera than new. If you buy a used camera out of warranty, you expect to pay significantly less, because it's used, and comes with no warranty. As you can see, the warranty itself actually has a monetary value, which you already paid for, and didn't use. That's not Canon's fault, that's your fault.

You are outside of the warranty period. You have absolutely no basis for a complaint.

So I understand your frustration but you have very little recourse aside from b*tching about it on a forum. Canon has in fact honored their part of the warranty - in fact they've gone beyond that, by offering you a discounted repair - you are the one who is asking for too much - you are asking for a free out of warranty repair.

I don't know what the cause of the problem was - when I first read that it was in a waterproof bag for essentially two years, the first thing that popped into my mind was condensation issues - but who knows. It could very well have been a faulty circuit board from the factory, as you suggest. It could have been someone dropping the box from a shelf at the retailer. It could be a hundred different things, and when you're out of the warranty period, it doesn't actually matter what caused the damage - you are responsible.

I am sorry that seems to be a difficult truth for you to accept but pretty much no one on this thread shares your anger and your outrage because you are the one who has a lot of responsibility in this matter, and you don't seem to be accepting any of it. You cannot be helped, because you are not accepting of help.

I wish you good luck, and I would not blame you if you decided to switch back to Nikon, or Pentax, or mirrorless, or whatever. I can understand this experience has soured you on Canon. However I'll leave you with a warning - in the same situation, a different company would have done the exact same thing as Canon. You are not going to get better service from Sony or Samsung or anybody else.

Good luck.



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Lenses / Re: EF 11-24mm f/4L: Our First Impressions
« Last post by The Flasher on Today at 09:29:27 AM »
Mine arrived this past Friday and timely so, as I had the opportunity to use it on a paid architectural gig right away. In short (and wide harhar) amazing piece of glass, worth every penny if you're shooting architecture. The 17tse/4 and 24tse still have their place and are crucial if you need to shoot up and shift. For straight and level, such as interiors, this thing is a beast.   I'm on a job right now but I'll post a couple frames this aft if interested. 
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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Import 1Dx worth the risk?
« Last post by FTb-n on Today at 09:27:29 AM »
Does anyone have experience with GetItDigital?  Particularly with buying a 1Dx through them?
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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: First Full Frame...on a budget.
« Last post by Sporgon on Today at 09:21:28 AM »
Well I'm appalled. Isn't the 60D about half the price of a 6D?

Sure, but the 60d is way older, too. And I'm not sure if my feeling really relates to the build quality. But I'm happy at least someone here shares my reservation about the 6d, though obviously the raw iq is top-notch for current Canon sensor tech...

The only camera that used the smaller wheel and the eight way controller before the 6D came along was the 60D. So Canon already had this wheel/8 way controller module. Instead of simply using that module they created a version which has an inferior 'feel'. Hmmm......I think that was unnecessary.
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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 6D autofocus system vs 7D....
« Last post by Zv on Today at 09:20:26 AM »
I went from 7D to 5D2 to 6D and I feel like I've been going backwards in regards to AF. I loved the 19 point AF of the 7D and I especially miss the spot AF point ability. I find that when taking pics of small flowers in between branches the AF on the 6D hunts, even with the center AF point as its just a bit too large. Of course I can just revert to manual focus but I swear the 5D2 didn't do that.

The outer AF points are pretty rubbish, even for simple portraits. I love the 6D but at this level of camera is it too much to ask for AF points that actually work? Are we asking too much? I don't think so.

Luckily I rarely shoot things that move and my style of shooting isn't that reliant on AF which makes the 6D perfect. It's funny my other camera is an EOS M which is famous for its slow ass AF! I must have a thing for crap AF cameras!
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