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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS Rebel SL2 Confirmed for 2017 [CR3]
« Last post by arcer on Today at 06:21:32 AM »
What Canon is doing is WRONG!

800D, 77D, SL2, 85mm IS, making the stuff that is perfect for selling to the lesser informed people.
Those 77D/M5 are price tagged like the 80D, yet miss all the stuff that really matters, 2nd sync curtain, shutter speed up to 8000's, missing C modes on the 77D. I bet the new SL2 will have electronic shutter curtains as well.
A new 1400D with Digi 7 processor for noice cleaning is the only upgrade that should be done in the entry section.

Now Nikon wants to focus at the higher end, Canon thinks they have the chance throwing up all new entry bodys on the market.

But in the long haul, canon is way better of designing an M model with dual card slots, 1/8000S shutter speed, no compromises on sync speed, integrating the Lp 6N batteries in an Eos M model,
Spending resources in Eos M lenses,
Spending resources on a new 7Dm3,
Spending resources on developing a Mirrorless Full frame,
Spending resources in a new G5X with better raw buffer and DPAF that can compete vs Fuji x100 and Sony RX100,
What the point of a 85MM IS?, stabilization will be obsolete within 2-5 years when ISO performance will improve, (something that the D500 and A6500 now have).

I could not care less about new portraiture L lenses, what ever Canon/Nikon/Fuji/Sony/Pentax/Sigma makes, it gets beaten by Zeiss lenses. Canon knows that for sure, hence the few lens updates.

Every camera company now has a 2000$ crop body that is awesome, now it is canons turn!
There is plenty enough in the 1DXm2 that could migrate to a new 7Dm3, buffer, fps, new AF system, video stabilization, etc...

But I guess there is still a lot of $$$ in it to sell crap to the lesser informed people in Asia.

1st statement and 2nd paragraph are your own subjective opinion.

Nikon is most likely leaving the entry level for the near future as it knows Canon has almost completely dominated that market. They will come back to the entry market when they have produced a matured high end pro ecosystem that can compete with Canon toe to toe. In the end, you still need entry bodies to introduce new buyers into your ecosystem. (Reason why Canon won the race atm.)

Regarding the M, you have misunderstood the intended methodology of the M series.
...... M lenses, you sure Canon is not spending resources?
...... 7D3, R&D is not a 6-month garage project. R&D takes years and I don't want a 7D3 with incremental improvements.
...... FF ML, you're not an occasional reader of CR for the past few months, aren't you?
...... G5X, why chose that specific camera as competitor of the Fuji or Sony? Why not the G1X?
...... 85mm IS, seriously? IS will be irrelevant? You make me question who is the less informed one.

Canon shouldn't make any new L lenses? Comparing Canon/Sigma/Nikon/Sony to ZEISS? Seriously? Again?

Hey, I rather have newer features in my new 7D3 than just adopting those from the 1DX2.

Yes, Canon will earn a lot from the rebels and XXDs, but they are not crap, and people in Asia are not less informed. Fyi, almost all camera brands are in Asia ffs. And saying the rebels are crap is like admitting that you are an excrement from a canine compared to the best photographers in the world.
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Animal Kingdom / Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« Last post by auditom on Today at 06:15:07 AM »
Peacock, 1DXII, 100-400 II @312mm, 1000 ISO
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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS Rebel SL2 Confirmed for 2017 [CR3]
« Last post by sylvestrerato on Today at 06:11:52 AM »
I hope the SL2 will have more battery life because that's one of the reasons that kept me from buying the SL1 with high ISO noise.
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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS Rebel SL2 Confirmed for 2017 [CR3]
« Last post by arcer on Today at 06:02:26 AM »
It would be interesting to find out if the SL2 keeps to its price range and gets 750D/T6i internals (as the SL1 currently has 700D/T5i) or if it moves up to the 800D/T7i price range with DPAF and 45pt AF. I'm guessing the former but we'll see.

If the SL2 does not get 77D/80D sensor with DPAF, it's a no-go for me. Don't need 45 AF pts.

Note the SL1 was announced on 21-Mar, together with the 700D/T5i. The 750D/T6i was only released in 2015, 2 years later. So, there is a good chance the SL2 will share the same internals as the 800D.

You could be right, Canon could go that way as they trickle down DPAF in their new releases. But, that would also mean quite the jump in price from currently being a budget camera as it'll then likely be priced not much less than the 800D.

Sorry, I don't understand your argument.
The SL1/100D and T5i/700D were both released together and have almost the same features except size and mass, fps, and the articulating screen. Their released price were $650 and $750 respectively. So I don't understand why you stated that the SL2 needs to have T6i/750D internals to stay competitive to the T7i/800D.
I think you are confusing the SL series with the bottom of the ladder tier, T6/1300D.

Even if the SL2 was released with T7i/800D internals or even the 77D internals, its price will still stay below or similar respectively.

Furthermore, as Canon is now moving its whole line onto the new sensor fab, it would be weird to put an old sensor tech into a 2017 Canon camera that is supposed to be competitive in its respective market.

P.S. I rarely used current market price as the basis of Canon's intended market segmentation, as market situations and currency exchange will change as time goes by.
P.S.S. Just because the SL1 was an awkwardly marketed product in the US, doesn't mean it wasn't profitable for Canon globally.
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Landscape / Re: Flowers and other Flora
« Last post by npdien on Today at 06:02:21 AM »
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Landscape / Re: Flowers and other Flora
« Last post by npdien on Today at 05:58:29 AM »
It's about time.

Lovely shot, Dpc.
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Landscape / Re: Flowers and other Flora
« Last post by npdien on Today at 05:57:43 AM »
Shooting in the shade under a Rangoon Creeper/Burma Creeper/Chinese Honeysuckle tree.

Lovely.  :)   Nicely done, npdien.
Thanks, Click

Shooting in the shade under a Rangoon Creeper/Burma Creeper/Chinese Honeysuckle tree.



You should be employed by Vietnamese tourism - I'm almost compelled to visit! :)

Jack
Thanks, Jack. Here on daily basis facing the air pollution, marine life disaster due to discharging toxic waste water by Chinese investors, traffic accidents, traffic congestion due to the arrival of too many rural young migrants in the cities, possibly contaminated food, politicized education, corrupted government and police harassment... you may name it, the rich and the talented are fleeing the country. We, as the insiders, keep wondering why we have stayed here so long.
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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS Rebel SL2 Confirmed for 2017 [CR3]
« Last post by BasXcanon on Today at 05:35:30 AM »
What Canon is doing is WRONG!

800D, 77D, SL2, 85mm IS, making the stuff that is perfect for selling to the lesser informed people.
Those 77D/M5 are price tagged like the 80D, yet miss all the stuff that really matters, 2nd sync curtain, shutter speed up to 8000's, missing C modes on the 77D. I bet the new SL2 will have electronic shutter curtains as well.
A new 1400D with Digi 7 processor for noice cleaning is the only upgrade that should be done in the entry section.

Now Nikon wants to focus at the higher end, Canon thinks they have the chance throwing up all new entry bodys on the market.

But in the long haul, canon is way better of designing an M model with dual card slots, 1/8000S shutter speed, no compromises on sync speed, integrating the Lp 6N batteries in an Eos M model,
Spending resources in Eos M lenses,
Spending resources on a new 7Dm3,
Spending resources on developing a Mirrorless Full frame,
Spending resources in a new G5X with better raw buffer and DPAF that can compete vs Fuji x100 and Sony RX100,
What the point of a 85MM IS?, stabilization will be obsolete within 2-5 years when ISO performance will improve, (something that the D500 and A6500 now have).

I could not care less about new portraiture L lenses, what ever Canon/Nikon/Fuji/Sony/Pentax/Sigma makes, it gets beaten by Zeiss lenses. Canon knows that for sure, hence the few lens updates.

Every camera company now has a 2000$ crop body that is awesome, now it is canons turn!
There is plenty enough in the 1DXm2 that could migrate to a new 7Dm3, buffer, fps, new AF system, video stabilization, etc...

But I guess there is still a lot of $$$ in it to sell crap to the lesser informed people in Asia.
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Landscape / Re: Flowers and other Flora
« Last post by npdien on Today at 05:32:01 AM »
Very nice to get context on where your photo originate from, Dien.  As sometimes happens my "notify" hasn't been notifying and so I was out of the loop for a while.  Here is a raspberry waiting to be unlocked from the rigor mortise of winter.

Jack
Lovely shot, Jack. Given your absence from this thread, I've thought you had been getting into internet hibernation.

Photo hibernation, yes.  You recall a granite saw ... well it got modified/redone a bit so I could use it for ripping some oak and mitering using a 14" carbide wood blade I bought.  Necessary trim required to complete the botched tiling job of one year ago in my home (after extensive floor leveling) that I will now be attempting, never having tiled in my life.  :o :(

The photo related to shots trying to confirm AFMA with the 1DX2, which I'm close to concluding has erratic focus with 400 DO II X2 III.  That combo must work for me since it'll be my workhorse wildlife setup and so far it's been frustration.  Thus, that photo was 800mm.

While focus is quick and appears OK on close inspection it's often significantly off.  One day a series of shots says AFMA =9 another it's 4.  You'd expect a clear pattern of front to back focus from -20 to +20 but I'll have shots at -5 looking better than +2.  :(

Jack
Hi Jack. Wow, you have monster 1DX2. I see how frustrated you are, facing the AF problem with the combo of such top gears.  Hope a healthy dose of carpentry keeps you active, healthy and fit.
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