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Philip Bloom reviews Canon 1DC

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Axilrod:
https://vimeo.com/58263312

"Because there is no actual competition for this camera, there is no other camera of this size, of this weight, of this sensitivity that can shoot 4K for this price, therefore it's worth the money."  He says it's "overpriced" only when compared to the 1DX.  He goes on to call it "an astonishing camera" and says "he's in love with it."

LetTheRightLensIn:
It does look good no doubt the best DSLR for video ever but it is a bit ridiculous that if they are going to double the price just for a firmware upgrade to not have put in such utter basics as zebra, peaking, zoom in while filming and heck ML even gives waveforms, etc. How $6000 for firmware and then they leave that out, such basic stuff that even a couple hackers have managed on their own?

Anyway as he says it plays with your mind, it's both worth the price, for those who can afford it which certainly leaves some out, and yet a bit of a rip at the same time. I still wonder if it might not have been better to price it like a DSLR and get their years ahead of everyone and not leave stuff out and take the world by complete storm than the conservative route and wait to price it and move it down when everyone else can already do it as well (or worse if it turns out, better).

Anyway, nice review.

HurtinMinorKey:
He's not really a cinema guy. More of a broadcast-documentary style(which is a much bigger subset of the population, btw).  So I think he underrates the deficiencies of the 8bit codec and it's inherent lack of gradability for people who want a consistent look across a variety of scenes shot in different environments.   

But as always with PB, the review is very well done.

PhilipBloom:
I agree. It's not a cinema camera. I never said it was. The labelling of the C line is misleading. Only the C500 could be considered a cinema camera. The C300 in the UK is by far the number one broascast camera, the title that in SD days was the DigiBeta.

Most of my work is broadcast, but my last 3 features all went to theatres.

This camera won't be used by me in 4k mode for anything other than stock and personal stuff. The S35 will match my C300 nicely with log as a B cam so very useful...but i am very aware of the limitations of 8-bit having used it countless time and had the joy of 10, 12, and 16 bit too. I think the 8-bit does seem to be stretched to the limits in 4k. Fine in the rest of the modes.

I actually did end up buying it as it was a no-brainer trading in my 1DX and negotiating the hell out of it with the dealer! Just the normal HD for me makes way more sense than the 1DX HD.

Policar:

--- Quote from: PhilipBloom on January 28, 2013, 02:20:41 PM ---I agree. It's not a cinema camera. I never said it was. The labelling of the C line is misleading. Only the C500 could be considered a cinema camera. The C300 in the UK is by far the number one broascast camera, the title that in SD days was the DigiBeta.

Most of my work is broadcast, but my last 3 features all went to theatres.

This camera won't be used by me in 4k mode for anything other than stock and personal stuff. The S35 will match my C300 nicely with log as a B cam so very useful...but i am very aware of the limitations of 8-bit having used it countless time and had the joy of 10, 12, and 16 bit too. I think the 8-bit does seem to be stretched to the limits in 4k. Fine in the rest of the modes.

I actually did end up buying it as it was a no-brainer trading in my 1DX and negotiating the hell out of it with the dealer! Just the normal HD for me makes way more sense than the 1DX HD.

--- End quote ---

Great to have you here. Welcome! And thanks for the in-depth review.

Just out of curiosity, how do you find C300 footage captured to prores compared with the 1DC's MJPEG 4k? Not in terms of resolution but in terms of tonality. I know hating on 8 bit is all the rage, but I've received 8 bit film scans that have been pretty flexible and I've found most dSLRs to have poorer tonality than their specs would imply.

The Alexa packs about 14 stops into 10 bits. The C300 packs 11 stops into 10 bits... Seems tonality should be pretty similar. How does your C300 footage (as captured externally to prores) compare with the 1DC, 5D Mark III, and Alexa in your experience?

I'm considering buying a C100 and Ninja 2 as an A cam for my B cam Mark III, but I might yet be talked out of it!

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