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Re: List of rumored lenses
« Reply #285 on: August 19, 2016, 01:15:02 PM »
I want to buy canon 1.2L.
Yet I don't know if I should wait for the new 1.2 or 1.4?
What do you think? Will we get a new 50mm lens anytime soon?
The fact that there is now a serious competition Sigma 50 Art, and Tamron 45 Vibration Compensation, will force Canon to update its 50mm at some point.

So far there is no reliable rumors, but the market logic says that the 50mm F1.4 is more urgent update, and it may be that this will come with Image Stabilizer.
I really hope.
I can buy 1.2L but I dont feel it worth the price.
Sigma 50mm Art Focus probs... Im not sure I want to exprience it.
What should I do? I also had bad luck with 50mm 1.4 =\
I've had a Canon 50mm F1.4 and never liked the quality when more open than F2. Currently I have the Sigma 50 Art, and I love the sharpness and contrast even when wide open.

Yes, there is the fear of inconsistent AF, which can happen in some Canon bodies. Moreover, Sigma Art marvelously work with Dual Pixel AF.

If you do not care about the poor sharpness, Canon 50L may be the right lens for you.

Yes, the whole 50mm prime is still a problem. The 50L's issues are well documented. In every other aspect other than sharpness...it's an impressive lens. But the sharpness wide open is as disappointing as it's AF accuracy issues. The Sigma 50mm f1.4 art has a history of sharp optics, poor flare, poor QA and unreliable AF. So that's no good either. The Canon 50mm f1.4 USM is really weird wide open, low contrast and not that great. Plus the fact that it's a gold line lens...so it's cheap and plasticky...and doesn't last long in a professional's use before falling a part. So in my opinion the best 50mm lens is either the TSe-45mm (that surprised you didn't it) or the 24-70 f2.8 II L. Either that or track down a good 50mm f1.8 metal mount. Wide open...it's really quite good. 

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Re: List of rumored lenses
« Reply #285 on: August 19, 2016, 01:15:02 PM »

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« Reply #286 on: August 29, 2016, 11:12:12 AM »
So far there is no reliable rumors, but the market logic says that the 50mm F1.4 is more urgent update, and it may be that this will come with Image Stabilizer.

Ugh.  As long as they stick to the 1.4.  I hope they're not going to take the $125 50mm 1.8, add IS to it, and then sell it for $425 dollars.

I shoot primes for my 35mm photography, which until recently has been mainly Pentax mechanical bodies.  I recently picked up a new-to-me EOS 1v, and I've been looking for prime lenses for it.  But the wide lenses available are both IS, and priced accordingly.  I guess zooms are so popular now that it doesn't make sense to make an IS and non-IS model, but the IS really adds to the cost.  Ebay it is, where I can look for that "P" date code...

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Re: List of rumored lenses
« Reply #287 on: September 10, 2016, 04:37:24 PM »

Any news about the new compact & light Canon 400mm F:5.6 IS L?

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Re: List of rumored lenses
« Reply #288 on: September 10, 2016, 09:46:40 PM »
Do yo think about new EF-S 17-55 f2.8 or replacement for APS-C ?
When is it coming?

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Re: List of rumored lenses
« Reply #289 on: October 10, 2016, 09:24:18 AM »
At least with my copy, wide open sharpness with the 50mm L is excellent and more than good enough for demanding use in fashion, lifestyle, weddings etc.

There is some variation there, for sure, but I was quite surprised how sharp my lens is wide open. I was expecting worse. Likewise, my 85 1.2 L II is razor sharp but with slight spherical aberration (of which the 50mm has more).

Both mine are very sharp at least centrally wide open. I think some of the extremely negative comments are, once again, people not use to AFMA or those who do not understand how dramatic an impact getting AFMA perfect makes with such fast lenses. Then there is technique. Sure, there are bad copies out there, but the designs are plenty sharp in both cases.

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Re: List of rumored lenses
« Reply #290 on: October 10, 2016, 10:31:51 AM »
Do yo think about new EF-S 17-55 f2.8 or replacement for APS-C ?
When is it coming?
I am one of those who want a replacement for 17-55mm, with better mechanical and not sucks dust inside. I also hope more consistent price to quality.

Canon demonstrates a certain unwillingness to zoom EF-S high end, but at some point will do it.
Canon published some patents of similar optical formulas in the past. Something like 15-45mm if I remember correctly.

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« Reply #291 on: November 21, 2016, 07:23:35 PM »
At least with my copy, wide open sharpness with the 50mm L is excellent and more than good enough for demanding use in fashion, lifestyle, weddings etc.

There is some variation there, for sure, but I was quite surprised how sharp my lens is wide open. I was expecting worse. Likewise, my 85 1.2 L II is razor sharp but with slight spherical aberration (of which the 50mm has more).

Both mine are very sharp at least centrally wide open. I think some of the extremely negative comments are, once again, people not use to AFMA or those who do not understand how dramatic an impact getting AFMA perfect makes with such fast lenses. Then there is technique. Sure, there are bad copies out there, but the designs are plenty sharp in both cases.

Certainly not in my experience. I've had two copies and both of mine were very similar. My 2nd photographer's copy is a tad sharper than both of mine but the issue with it is that the AF is also inconsistent in low light. In terms of technique...I've had no AF or softness issues with my 24IIL, 35L, 85IIL, 100L macro or 135L...it's a weak and soft design and you are singular in your opinion of it. I've met plenty of working pros who have found the same issues as I have. I've not tried it on a 5DSR yet...but I bet that level of sensor resolution really shows it's inherent softness. 

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« Reply #291 on: November 21, 2016, 07:23:35 PM »

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Re: List of rumored lenses
« Reply #292 on: December 06, 2016, 01:02:59 PM »
So far there is no reliable rumors, but the market logic says that the 50mm F1.4 is more urgent update, and it may be that this will come with Image Stabilizer.

Ugh.  As long as they stick to the 1.4.  I hope they're not going to take the $125 50mm 1.8, add IS to it, and then sell it for $425 dollars.



if this would have been easy way, they would have done

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Re: List of rumored lenses
« Reply #293 on: December 13, 2016, 01:33:25 PM »
Rumored non-Canon-lens ;):

Anyone knows about Sigma 24-70 2.8 OS?
Will they wait for Canon to release their IS-version first?

Maybe would be a good time for Sigma now, as many hobbyists say that they won´t buy the new 24-105II. If you are out for a multifunctional, high-quality standard-zoom, it is the same market.

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Re: List of rumored lenses
« Reply #294 on: December 13, 2016, 03:08:27 PM »
At least with my copy, wide open sharpness with the 50mm L is excellent and more than good enough for demanding use in fashion, lifestyle, weddings etc.

There is some variation there, for sure, but I was quite surprised how sharp my lens is wide open. I was expecting worse. Likewise, my 85 1.2 L II is razor sharp but with slight spherical aberration (of which the 50mm has more).

Both mine are very sharp at least centrally wide open. I think some of the extremely negative comments are, once again, people not use to AFMA or those who do not understand how dramatic an impact getting AFMA perfect makes with such fast lenses. Then there is technique. Sure, there are bad copies out there, but the designs are plenty sharp in both cases.

Certainly not in my experience. I've had two copies and both of mine were very similar. My 2nd photographer's copy is a tad sharper than both of mine but the issue with it is that the AF is also inconsistent in low light. In terms of technique...I've had no AF or softness issues with my 24IIL, 35L, 85IIL, 100L macro or 135L...it's a weak and soft design and you are singular in your opinion of it. I've met plenty of working pros who have found the same issues as I have. I've not tried it on a 5DSR yet...but I bet that level of sensor resolution really shows it's inherent softness.

I'll try to shed a little more light on this. For an upcoming excursion (low light work) I was weighing the 50 1.2 vs the 24-70 2.8 II on my 5D4, and decided to test both lenses in similar lighting conditions at my place. To summarize - I tried the 50 1.2 first - I really wanted to take that one because there just isn't anything quite like being able to shoot at 1.2. But, for the life of me I just could not get reliable AF going at 1.2 which surprised me - several shots dead on, then another series immediately after, complete misses. Very unreliable and gave me fits...can't afford any missed shots! Not only that, but stopping down to 2.8-4 introduced that back-focus common with this lens. Eventually I was able to come up with an AFMA setting that reduced that tendency, but the inconsistent focusing at 1.2 remained. Ultimately came to the conclusion that I don't have enough confidence in the AF to trust it (on the 5D4) and switched to the 24-70. Immediately I noticed the images were crisper and more contrasty, and this is compared to the 50 stopped down to 2.8! AF problems went away almost immediately. Didn't take long for me to settle on the 24-70, even with its considerably larger size and weight over the 50. Low-light shooting was more reliable, although having to use ISO 10,000 is far from ideal, and the look at 1.2 cannot be duplicated by many. But better an ISO 10,000 shot in focus than a missed ISO 1600 one...

Additionally, I did try the 50 on the 5DSR when I got the latter and while I found the lens to resolve a bit more than on the 5D3 at the normally soft 1.2 setting (cancelled filter works wonders), the focus issues were magnified that much more due to the high resolution. I eventually concluded that this lens is a poor fit for the 5DS cameras.

I don't know anything except a new Canon 50L can't come soon enough! And glad I'm not the only one experiencing this as I was thinking of posting something about it but thought perhaps it was just me or the camera...
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Re: List of rumored lenses
« Reply #295 on: February 03, 2017, 04:13:35 PM »
I'll try to shed a little more light on this. For an upcoming excursion (low light work) I was weighing the 50 1.2 vs the 24-70 2.8 II on my 5D4, and decided to test both lenses in similar lighting conditions at my place. To summarize - I tried the 50 1.2 first - I really wanted to take that one because there just isn't anything quite like being able to shoot at 1.2. But, for the life of me I just could not get reliable AF going at 1.2 which surprised me - several shots dead on, then another series immediately after, complete misses. Very unreliable and gave me fits...can't afford any missed shots! Not only that, but stopping down to 2.8-4 introduced that back-focus common with this lens. Eventually I was able to come up with an AFMA setting that reduced that tendency, but the inconsistent focusing at 1.2 remained. Ultimately came to the conclusion that I don't have enough confidence in the AF to trust it (on the 5D4) and switched to the 24-70. Immediately I noticed the images were crisper and more contrasty, and this is compared to the 50 stopped down to 2.8! AF problems went away almost immediately. Didn't take long for me to settle on the 24-70, even with its considerably larger size and weight over the 50. Low-light shooting was more reliable, although having to use ISO 10,000 is far from ideal, and the look at 1.2 cannot be duplicated by many. But better an ISO 10,000 shot in focus than a missed ISO 1600 one...

Additionally, I did try the 50 on the 5DSR when I got the latter and while I found the lens to resolve a bit more than on the 5D3 at the normally soft 1.2 setting (cancelled filter works wonders), the focus issues were magnified that much more due to the high resolution. I eventually concluded that this lens is a poor fit for the 5DS cameras.

I don't know anything except a new Canon 50L can't come soon enough! And glad I'm not the only one experiencing this as I was thinking of posting something about it but thought perhaps it was just me or the camera...
Well, in an amicable way, it's preferrably to adjust each lens you use with your particular camera, otherwise there's no guarantee that the autofocus will work properly.
I had the same issue with EF 50 f/1.4 on my old 7D mark I, but Canon service center solved the problem and it worked like a charm after the calibration.
However, after I switched to 5Dm4, I feel I'll need to do the same thing to make the new camera and the old lens friends :)

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Re: List of rumored lenses
« Reply #296 on: April 26, 2017, 11:48:46 AM »
Any recent rumors of a Canon 150-500 or 200-600 or something of that nature to compete with the Sigma/Tamron/Nikon offerings? This is a range where Canon doesn't seem to want to directly compete.

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« Reply #297 on: April 26, 2017, 12:01:56 PM »
Any recent rumors of a Canon 150-500 or 200-600 or something of that nature to compete with the Sigma/Tamron/Nikon offerings? This is a range where Canon doesn't seem to want to directly compete.

No, and the reason has been discussed many times. Canon have had an f5.6 limit on lens speed since the EF mount started, even the 1200mm was an f5.6. Third parties get around this limitation with their f6.3 lenses by faking their actual aperture, Canon don't, so don't expect to see a budget long anything from Canon, ever.

A 20 year old Canon 150-600 f5.6 sells for over $5,000, a new one would be considerably more than that. The 100-400 is the best you are going to get, mind you that performs very well cropped or with a 1.4TC when compared to the third party lenses so I doubt Canon see any need to waste resources making a lens contrary to their own fundamental conditions.
Too often we lose sight of the fact that photography is about capturing light, if we have the ability to take control of that light then we grow exponentially as photographers. More often than not the image is not about lens speed, sensor size, DR, MP's or AF, it is about the light.

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« Reply #298 on: April 26, 2017, 07:01:57 PM »

No, and the reason has been discussed many times. Canon have had an f5.6 limit on lens speed since the EF mount started, even the 1200mm was an f5.6. Third parties get around this limitation with their f6.3 lenses by faking their actual aperture, Canon don't, so don't expect to see a budget long anything from Canon, ever.

A 20 year old Canon 150-600 f5.6 sells for over $5,000, a new one would be considerably more than that. The 100-400 is the best you are going to get, mind you that performs very well cropped or with a 1.4TC when compared to the third party lenses so I doubt Canon see any need to waste resources making a lens contrary to their own fundamental conditions.

It doesn't seem to have presented a problem for Nikon, who is selling a 200-500 f/5.6 VR zoom for a competitive price. The one downside to the otherwise excellent 100-400 Mk II lens is that with a teleconverter, it's an f/8 lens. While my bodies will AF with f/8, you give up a stop (2/3 versus the Siggy and Tammy) of valuable light meaning that in deep shadows or wooded areas, you're pushing the ISO quite a bit. On the other hand, it remains a very portable lens, very suitable for walking around for long periods of time.

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Re: List of rumored lenses
« Reply #299 on: April 27, 2017, 02:25:35 PM »
At least with my copy, wide open sharpness with the 50mm L is excellent and more than good enough for demanding use in fashion, lifestyle, weddings etc.

There is some variation there, for sure, but I was quite surprised how sharp my lens is wide open. I was expecting worse. Likewise, my 85 1.2 L II is razor sharp but with slight spherical aberration (of which the 50mm has more).

Both mine are very sharp at least centrally wide open. I think some of the extremely negative comments are, once again, people not use to AFMA or those who do not understand how dramatic an impact getting AFMA perfect makes with such fast lenses. Then there is technique. Sure, there are bad copies out there, but the designs are plenty sharp in both cases.

Certainly not in my experience. I've had two copies and both of mine were very similar. My 2nd photographer's copy is a tad sharper than both of mine but the issue with it is that the AF is also inconsistent in low light. In terms of technique...I've had no AF or softness issues with my 24IIL, 35L, 85IIL, 100L macro or 135L...it's a weak and soft design and you are singular in your opinion of it. I've met plenty of working pros who have found the same issues as I have. I've not tried it on a 5DSR yet...but I bet that level of sensor resolution really shows it's inherent softness.

Mine is bitingly sharp in the center at 1.2 on a 5D Mk IV. It was a recent purchase, so it could be Canon has worked out the quality control or made some small tweaks to the way these are assembled. I would say it's partially due to the great autofocus on the Mk IV, but it's razor sharp on my original 5D as well.

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« Reply #299 on: April 27, 2017, 02:25:35 PM »