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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to the USA
« Reply #45 on: July 12, 2013, 04:40:52 PM »
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Dear Grendel:

Thank you for contacting Canon product support.  We understand you have a question regarding the EOS M digital camera.

At this time, we have not received any information that the EOS M camera has been or is being discontinued.  Each division of Canon makes a business decision as to what products will be carried in that country or region.  Canon USA has decided not to carry the EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM lens, and as it is not carried in the US, does not have current plans to support the lens.  We do not know if this situation will change in the future; click HERE to go to the press releases for the Canon USA website to monitor if a decision is made to carry the lens, as this is where new products are announced.

We are very sorry for any inconvenience this causes.  Please let us know if we can be of further assistance.

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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to the USA
« Reply #45 on: July 12, 2013, 04:40:52 PM »

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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to the USA
« Reply #46 on: July 12, 2013, 04:58:25 PM »
I have ordered the 11-22mm from Amazon.de today.
ETA: 17-18th of July
Available amount of lenses and the price was volatile througout the day with currently more lenses in stock than this morning and the price 20 Euro up as well.

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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to the USA
« Reply #47 on: July 12, 2013, 05:03:54 PM »
Well, I'll wait for white boxed versions of this lens to flood SE Asia markets, then pick it up cheap on eBay.  At $600 for the ef-m UWA, one might as well use the ef-s 10-22 with the adapter.

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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to the USA
« Reply #48 on: July 12, 2013, 05:27:28 PM »
At $600 for the ef-m UWA, one might as well use the ef-s 10-22 with the adapter.

+1  I shouldn't have sold mine. 

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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to the USA
« Reply #49 on: July 12, 2013, 05:44:08 PM »
Here is the response I just received from Canon - very similar to what Grendel received.  I specifically ask if the EOS-M or the M system was being discontinued.  I added the underline:

"Thank you for contacting Canon product support regarding whether Canon will release the EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM lens in the U.S. market.
Canon recently announced that the EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM lens will be available to the European market.  Currently, there has not been any announcements whether the lens will be available for the U.S. market.  If Canon U.S.A. decides to sell the EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM lens in the U.S market, a press release will be made on Canon's website, www.usa.canon.com.  The EOS-M System is still produced and supported by Canon U.S.A. and there is no indication that support is being discontinued in the near future.
Please let us know if we can be of any further assistance with your EOS-M.  Thank you for choosing Canon.
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Rodney
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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to the USA
« Reply #50 on: July 12, 2013, 06:25:21 PM »
I was going to say that Canon might be structured where Canon USA is a different organization (with different profit and loss statement and decision chain) than Canon Japan, etc. Apparently that is the case and Canon USA decided not to release the lens, for whatever reason.

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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to the USA
« Reply #51 on: July 12, 2013, 06:38:11 PM »
At $600 for the ef-m UWA, one might as well use the ef-s 10-22 with the adapter.

The new lens will be cheaper, lighter, smaller, stabilized, and optically superior. Looks like 5 good reasons to choose it over the 10-22 plus adaptor.

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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to the USA
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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to the USA
« Reply #52 on: July 12, 2013, 07:35:55 PM »
At $600 for the ef-m UWA, one might as well use the ef-s 10-22 with the adapter.

The new lens will be cheaper, lighter, smaller, stabilized, and optically superior. Looks like 5 good reasons to choose it over the 10-22 plus adaptor.

+1...Indeed, the MTF chart does show the new UWA STM is better than EF-S.

I see and hear people buying EF & EF-S adapter(s) to use with M...sounds like FUN ;D....for some reasons, I just can't do it. Tiny body with big lens - feel like is not balance at all.
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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to the USA
« Reply #53 on: July 12, 2013, 08:24:00 PM »
Between this and the recent fire sale on the M, I can only guess that sales have been disastrous in the USA, which actually corresponds with mirrorless sales in general - Japan/Asian market is huge, Europe decent, USA, DSLR still dominates. 

I hope that's not true, but it's not looking good  :(
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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to the USA
« Reply #54 on: July 12, 2013, 08:50:10 PM »
Anyone think we should all continue to contact Canon about this?  Or are we wasting our time?

I got almost the same response.
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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to the USA
« Reply #55 on: July 12, 2013, 11:26:04 PM »
Anyone think we should all continue to contact Canon about this?  Or are we wasting our time?

I got almost the same response.

You can always buy this lens from Japan  through Ebay etc. I'll be in Hong Kong from Jul 21th to 26th, will keep an eye it. If avaiable, I'll pick one up.
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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to North America?
« Reply #56 on: July 12, 2013, 11:34:52 PM »
Notice they say "due to current market conditions". This can mean a lot of things, but to a large company like Canon just having an item out for support and sales means it costs money - a lot of it. The service centers have to be trained and keep parts inventory - just for starters. This costs $$.

My guess is they see NA sales low enough that it's not worth supporting, they mostly just sold them to the Photo sites and rental places. Perhaps this is why they dumped stocks in NA.

Now with the however many new EOS-M's running in the wild in NA it might be a different story - in a year! Big companies run slowly.

How can volumes be uneconomical for USA when volumes are sufficient for Canada and Australia?

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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to the USA
« Reply #57 on: July 13, 2013, 12:25:48 AM »
Anyone think we should all continue to contact Canon about this?  Or are we wasting our time?

I got almost the same response.

Keep going.  The more people that respond the more likely it is they will carry the lens. 

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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to the USA
« Reply #57 on: July 13, 2013, 12:25:48 AM »

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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to the USA
« Reply #58 on: July 13, 2013, 12:53:28 AM »
So if the dumping of the EOS-M was at cost because units were failing to sell then Canon USA would probably have little confidence in the camera selling and thus accessories (i.e lenses) selling well. Even after dumping the camera, they would expect people to have it but not see it as a long term friend.

It may be that Canon USA have formed the opinion that people who buy Canon in the USA do so because of DSLRs (and possibly compacts) but for those interested in MILC, they've already bought into NEX or m4/3 and thus because Canon is so far behind, won't buy into the Canon system (in the USA.)

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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to the USA
« Reply #59 on: July 13, 2013, 04:48:12 AM »
So if the dumping of the EOS-M was at cost because units were failing to sell then Canon USA would probably have little confidence in the camera selling and thus accessories (i.e lenses) selling well. Even after dumping the camera, they would expect people to have it but not see it as a long term friend.

It may be that Canon USA have formed the opinion that people who buy Canon in the USA do so because of DSLRs (and possibly compacts) but for those interested in MILC, they've already bought into NEX or m4/3 and thus because Canon is so far behind, won't buy into the Canon system (in the USA.)

That makes sense.  But it could also be that Canon USA's M-series product manager has an irrational fear of prime numbers, so a lens with 11 in the name was declined.

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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to the USA
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