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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2013, 12:13:27 AM »
I thought for sure I'd be keeping my 24-105 after picking up the new 24-70II. The IS, the extra reach which is handy for events work, it's flexibility as a travel lens and it's sharp-wide-open performance just had to make it a keeper. But like other posters here, it's been sitting on the shelf gathering an ominous sheen of dust.

Next time I'm feeling inspired to do a Gumtree session, I'll be putting my three least used lenses up for sale. The 24-105, the 135 f/2 and an older non-USM 100 f/2.8 macro and pushing the $$ towards a 17TS-E.

But that's my experience. You may find totally valid reasons to keep both. Just wait a few months and see how it goes. As they say, time will tell....

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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2013, 12:13:27 AM »

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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2013, 12:15:20 AM »
My 2 cents: sell the 24-105mm after having a 24-70mm II; then save money and jump to a 70-200mm II. That was what I did and am very satisfied now along with a 5DMKIII.
Actually, we don't need IS with focal length under 70mm.
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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2013, 12:41:32 AM »
Hi there.

I'm pretty sure there are people here who had a 24-105mm before and bought the 24-70mm II. I have some questions:

1) Does it make sense to own both lenses (in case it will be difficult to sell the 24-105mm). I also have the 100mm f2.8L Macro for little subjects.
2) If you sold the 24-105mm, did you miss it later on?

At the present my 24-105mm has 98% utilization rate on the 5D3 because it's the only one I have, it's a versatile general purpose lens. But I *want* better with the 24-70mm II despite the lack of IS (I can get around that). Not need. Want! (haha).

I heard that the 24-70 II at f/4 gives much better image quality than the 24-105mm at f/5.6. Is this true?

I am not a professional photographer, just a serious amateur who loves cameras, pictures, and photography for more than 30 years.

Thank you!

In marginal lighting without a tripod the 24-105 IS certainly delivers better IQ. In all other cases the 24-70 II blow it away.

Very center frame, my 24-70 II is sharper at f/2.8 than all three 24-105 I tried at ANY aperture across the entire 24-70mm range (definitely not true at the edges near 70mm though).

It focuses better too.

But say you need some f/7.1 landscape hand-held or more DOF for in museum work without tripod or something then you may need high ISO and end up with worse overall quality (especially compared to the 24-70 f/4 IS which is better than the 24-105 IS in terms of image quality and it has even more effective IS, although a bit much $ to have as an extra for many granted and the 24-105 IS can be had for $600 now at least).
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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2013, 12:43:20 AM »
(the 24-105 is very sharp stopped down),

I've got to differ. Especially if you are landscape shooter. The 24-105 is much maligned for that sort of work near 24mm on FF, f/8, f/10, it's still often mush at the edges and it still tosses spades of PF on branches against clouds and such. 24-70 II is just about APO so forget any hint of PF on branches against clouds and it is quite a lot sharper at the edges at f/8 near 24mm.

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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2013, 12:44:28 AM »
If you use the 24-105mm as your primary lens I would troll back through your images and see how many of them are in the 70-105mm range from that lens. That would tell you how much you would miss it if you were to sell it.

I'd more check how many were in IS territory. The 80-100mm can be covered with much better quality (plus much more added range) with a 70-200 f/4 IS or 70-300L or whatnot.

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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2013, 12:47:00 AM »
Not that I think many people are following this thread, but I have get this out of my system.

I picked up the 24-70mm II yesterday...January couldn't wait as it's on sale.

I am so floored with the IQ of this lens!

I seem to be lucky to get a copy that is apparently bang on the focus with my camera body, and the results are so...WOW! Out of camera JPEGs show a pop that I have not seen with the 24-105mm that I have. With RAW on Lightroom it's even better. 

The lens is so sharp where I want it to be, at 2.8 the area within the plane of focus is full of detail.

The 24-105mm will be jealous, I hope they don't fight inside the cabinet.

I want to thank all those who responded to this thread!  ;D ;D ;D

nice, cna't say i'm surprised

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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2013, 02:22:23 AM »
The 24-105 IS lens has not the same outstanding image quality of th 24-70 II lens, but hold both lenses.

IS is very usefull in some situations and the aperture rays from small light sources had less rays and better to sell.

I was not happy with the 24-105 lens and sold it a few years ago after only 3 days using ist, but after the new 24-70 4.0 IS hit the market, I buy another 24-105 IS. The big problem with the 24-105 IS are the visible CA´s and the image quality between 85 up to 105 mm.

The 100 IS Macro do a better job at 100 mm, but you have to carry another lens. Sometimes it is more usefull to walk only with the 24-105 lens.

But I carry almost all the time the 16-35 II 2.8, 24-70 II 2.8, 100 IS Macro, 70-200 II 2.8 IS and both TC´s with me.

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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2013, 02:22:23 AM »

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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2013, 02:41:57 AM »
I've had been using the 24-105 inspite of having the 24-70 II. The uses were restricted though to situations where I needed the longer focal lengths and/or IS. However, after getting the 70-200 II, the lens has not been used at all.

I am using the 24-70 II and the 70-200 II now. I've put up the 24-105 for sale.
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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2013, 06:16:31 AM »
I just got the 24-70 2.8 II last week.  Ready to sell the 24-105.

Reason I replaced it:  For me, on my 5DIII, only works under perfect conditions of light and distance.  On cloudy days, unpleasant contrast issues, similar to Clarity slider being too far right.  Also, faces at medium distance simply don't resolve well if I want to crop, so forget about further back.  Distortion, making group shots always problematic.  Occasionally mutinous IS.

Only reasons I consider keeping it:  1) Wife is sometimes a second shooter, and she, I hate to say, has butterfingers.

2)  If I go into crime ridden areas, I'll bring it and my 60D.

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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2013, 07:29:30 AM »
The 24-105 IS lens has not the same outstanding image quality of th 24-70 II lens, but hold both lenses.
+1 ... until I bought the 24-70 f/2.8 L II, the 24-195 f/4 L IS was the most used lens on my 7D ... after my 24-70 f/2.8 L II was stolen, I bought Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC lens (couldn't afford the 24-70 L II again) but I still have the 24-105 in my camera bag unused for over a year now ... I don't want to sell it, because it serves as a backup lens, just in case I have another misfortune of losing a lens or dropping a lens (I dropped my 17-85 lens, many years ago, which got completely destroyed) and the lens also reminds me of some very lovely memories, it has traveled to 12 countries with some beautiful images to show for (maybe I'm just an emotional fool) also, the resale value of 24-105 has really dropped quite a bit, coz you can now get a brand new 24-105 for around $700 (sometimes even lower) ... so I see no point in selling it for a small amount, especially when it is such a fun lens ... so I've decided that I'll never sell it.
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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2013, 08:59:44 AM »
Not that I think many people are following this thread, but I have get this out of my system.

I picked up the 24-70mm II yesterday...January couldn't wait as it's on sale.

I am so floored with the IQ of this lens!

I seem to be lucky to get a copy that is apparently bang on the focus with my camera body, and the results are so...WOW! Out of camera JPEGs show a pop that I have not seen with the 24-105mm that I have. With RAW on Lightroom it's even better. 

The lens is so sharp where I want it to be, at 2.8 the area within the plane of focus is full of detail.

The 24-105mm will be jealous, I hope they don't fight inside the cabinet.

I want to thank all those who responded to this thread!  ;D ;D ;D

Thanks for the update and starting this thread.  Now that the rebates are on, it's time for me to get off the fence and make a decision.  Got a few days off next week so I'm going to rent the 24-70 II even though I'm 90% sure I'll buy it before this current rebate ends.  I guess my only hang up is having both the 24-105 and 24-70 II.  Like I said in an earlier post, I'd rather keep the 24-105 as a back up than sell it for such a low price but I sure could use the cash towards the pricey 24-70.
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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2013, 12:04:36 PM »
I'd rather keep the 24-105 as a back up than sell it for such a low price
+1 ... I kept mine and would recommend anyone else to do the same ... I think I'm way too attached to that lens  :-[
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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2013, 12:31:43 PM »

+1 ... until I bought the 24-70 f/2.8 L II, the 24-195 f/4 L IS was the most used lens on my 7D ... after my 24-70 f/2.8 L II was stolen, I bought Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC lens (couldn't afford the 24-70 L II again)

 Sorry to hear that. I know how that would feel when that will happen to me...knock on wood and praying it won't. That lens on a gripped 5D sure is a temptation for snatching.

Which comes to mind that it's almost necessary to buy a second body (a less pricey one) to make it the one to bring to crowded places where we are not comfortable going around with.
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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2013, 12:40:42 PM »
I LOVE the optical ability of the 24-70 2.8L II but the build quality leaves a lot to be desired.
•The button on the lens hood is malfunctioning and requires that I tape the lens hood to the lens
•One of the rubber grip rings has become stretched and is barely holding on to the lens
•There's a stringy, velvet material that has worked it's way out of the lens barrel now

It's going in tomorrow

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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2013, 01:38:18 PM »
I've got to differ. Especially if you are landscape shooter. The 24-105 is much maligned for that sort of work near 24mm on FF, f/8, f/10, it's still often mush at the edges and it still tosses spades of PF on branches against clouds and such. 

The corners at 24mm are soft, indeed, even at f/11 (lenses are not the same at f/11  ;)) but PF is almost non-existent on my copy.

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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2013, 01:38:18 PM »