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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #45 on: October 13, 2013, 02:02:25 PM »
Which comes to mind that it's almost necessary to buy a second body (a less pricey one) to make it the one to bring to crowded places where we are not comfortable going around with.

Less expensive to just buy some insurance.

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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #45 on: October 13, 2013, 02:02:25 PM »

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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #46 on: October 13, 2013, 02:04:07 PM »
but PF is almost non-existent on my copy.

hmm try shooting fine branches edge to edge across the top against white clouds

It's hard to imagine your copy wouldn't show lots of PF then. I've never heard of one that didn't, even from those who say they got an unusually sharp copy.

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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #47 on: October 13, 2013, 02:57:55 PM »
but PF is almost non-existent on my copy.

hmm try shooting fine branches edge to edge across the top against white clouds

It's hard to imagine your copy wouldn't show lots of PF then. I've never heard of one that didn't, even from those who say they got an unusually sharp copy.

Here are two crops, 24/16 and 24/11. Not from the center but not from the corners either.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/105206784@N04/10252514275/#
http://www.flickr.com/photos/105206784@N04/10252319154/#

A bit soft because the focus was much closer in both cases.

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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #48 on: October 13, 2013, 03:18:53 PM »
I just sold my 24-105 via Craig's List.  I purchased a 24-70 2.8 II in July and planned to keep both.  But, the 24-105 was not being used and I figured I could use the money toward something I would use, like a 100L Macro or 24mm TS-E.

The 24-70 2.8 II is sharper at all common focal lengths, especially at the very important (for me) 24mm length.  Lack of IS has not been a significant issue for me.
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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #49 on: October 13, 2013, 03:59:14 PM »
I just sold my 24-105 via Craig's List.  I purchased a 24-70 2.8 II in July and planned to keep both.  But, the 24-105 was not being used and I figured I could use the money toward something I would use, like a 100L Macro or 24mm TS-E.

The 24-70 2.8 II is sharper at all common focal lengths, especially at the very important (for me) 24mm length.  Lack of IS has not been a significant issue for me.

You not the only one ;)

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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #50 on: October 13, 2013, 04:35:16 PM »
The 24-105L was my most-used lens until I got the 24-70/2.8L II.  Whether or not it makes sense to have both depends on what you shoot. The IS of the 24-105 makes it useful for static subjects in low light with no tripod.  In a studio situation, where you have lots of light and a backdrop, meaning you can stop down to f/8 or narrower, the IQ differences are minimal (the 24-105 is very sharp stopped down), and the longer tele end is very useful - you can go from a group portrait to an individual headshot with one lens.

Having stated that, after a few months of not using my 24-105L, I sold it...and haven't regretted it at all.

Same here.
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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #51 on: October 13, 2013, 08:00:44 PM »
but PF is almost non-existent on my copy.

hmm try shooting fine branches edge to edge across the top against white clouds

It's hard to imagine your copy wouldn't show lots of PF then. I've never heard of one that didn't, even from those who say they got an unusually sharp copy.

Here are two crops, 24/16 and 24/11. Not from the center but not from the corners either.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/105206784@N04/10252514275/#
http://www.flickr.com/photos/105206784@N04/10252319154/#

A bit soft because the focus was much closer in both cases.

The first pic shows a lot of purple. Oh, they're purple plants, not fringing.  :)

My 24-105mm copy had a problem with CA. You will notice on the upper left hand corner branches
http://www.flickr.com/photos/62288946@N05/7785241096/#

So far I have not seen CA on the 24-70 II, which helps preserve sharpness around tree branches against the sky. The more I'm using it, the more I'm not missing the money I spent for the lens. :-)

Still, I could probably keep that lens for a second body. I've got a soft spot for it since it's my first L lens. I'm thinking of something like a T4i/T5i or 70D. Nooooo!



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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #51 on: October 13, 2013, 08:00:44 PM »

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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #52 on: October 13, 2013, 09:41:15 PM »
My 24-105mm copy had a problem with CA. You will notice on the upper left hand corner branches
http://www.flickr.com/photos/62288946@N05/7785241096/#

It is pretty obvious, even at that size. I would not be happy with that.

The 24-105 I rented years ago had some pretty bad CA (but no visible PF). I was using an 8mp crop body then, same pixel density as the 5D3/3. My (newer) 24-105 has much less CA, which LR corrects nicely.

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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #53 on: October 16, 2013, 11:07:42 AM »
I sold my 24-105L for a used Tamron 24-70 VC. It was an equal trade $$$ wise and the Tamron is sharper. (Even though so far Its been used only a handful of times :P ) I ended up valuing that stop more than the 35mm of reach when I can crop in.

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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #54 on: October 17, 2013, 06:36:23 AM »
i have a 5dmkIII with 24-105kit , sold it for tamron 24-70F2.8 VC.. then sold it for canon ef 24-70mm f2.8II... and been loving it so far.. and now im planning to get a used 24-105 f4 again... for the purpose of wider coverage when im travel on holiday and not working... and even for work, shooting on day time or with strobe will be great... eg... day time sport.. events.. etc..

indoors.. and critical work, ill go back to my 24-70f2.8II + 85mm f1,8 + 135mmf2... +2nd body

ps: i sold off my "TAMPON" 24-70 because i exchange about 3 units in the terms of 4 months time, it just doesnt have a good QC on the batch of stock i have, gen 1 & 2 stock all potential have problems like front/back focus problem, battery drain, broken VC, after a period of time using it, 3rd gen stock i got have solve the issues according to tamron, i tested it for months between canon mkII before decide to sell it, and stick with canon..
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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #55 on: October 17, 2013, 09:31:02 AM »
i have a 5dmkIII with 24-105kit , sold it for tamron 24-70F2.8 VC.. then sold it for canon ef 24-70mm f2.8II... and been loving it so far.. and now im planning to get a used 24-105 f4 again... for the purpose of wider coverage when im travel on holiday and not working... and even for work, shooting on day time or with strobe will be great... eg... day time sport.. events.. etc..

indoors.. and critical work, ill go back to my 24-70f2.8II + 85mm f1,8 + 135mmf2... +2nd body


Yes, the 24-70mm II is proving to be stellar IMHO, I've been getting to know its strengths and weaknesses (vignetting, etc.) and how to deal with it, I'm just raving about it I think my friends and cousins are getting tired of me  ::)

I still do have high regard for the 24-105mm, I have found the best settings for my style of flash photography with it that I will keep it.  :)

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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #56 on: October 17, 2013, 12:59:59 PM »
24-105 for outdoor work such as little league individuals and team shots.  also the longer reach is pleasing for indoor activities such as ballet and school dances.  i use the 24-70 II for commercial and weddings.

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Re: Question for owners of EF 24-105mm who also acquired EF 24-70mm II
« Reply #56 on: October 17, 2013, 12:59:59 PM »