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Question about 2 of my LP-E6 bettery( 2 years old)
« on: September 21, 2013, 08:32:15 PM »
Dear Sir.
To day, when I Charge two of my LP-E6 batteries for Canon 5D MK II and my 7D, after I finish charging, and Put in camera. Yes, I check the Batteries  A) Real Canon Battery( 1800 mAh Cells made in Japan, Proccessed in China)  have 1 Red mark.   And B) Cheapo Battery ( 2,000 mAh Cells made in Japan), Yes, I buy both 2 of 8 about 2 years ago.
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A) Real Canon Battery have 1 red dot at Recharge Performent
B) The cheapo battery have 3 Green dots, Yes, Past 2 years I have 3 Green dots for all of my 8 Batteries.
The Question that " What is the red dot = ?", and " Can I still use this Battery ?"
Thank you , Sir
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Re: Question about 2 of my LP-E6 bettery( 2 years old)
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2013, 09:57:32 PM »
The red dot / green don business is basically a count of the charge / recharge cycles.  If you have used and charged them equally, the counterfeit battery may not register properly in the camera to keep track of the number of cycles.

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Re: Question about 2 of my LP-E6 bettery( 2 years old)
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2013, 04:58:03 AM »
Hi Folks.
Oh great, a charge cycle counter working to some predetermined guesstimated number! 1,000? 1,500? 2,000?  ???
And there was me thinking it was about actual battery condition.  ::)
Do they get to a point when they shut off or do they just keep going with perhaps a perceptible but bearable reduction in shutter count?  8)

Cheers Graham.

The red dot / green don business is basically a count of the charge / recharge cycles.  If you have used and charged them equally, the counterfeit battery may not register properly in the camera to keep track of the number of cycles.
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Re: Question about 2 of my LP-E6 bettery( 2 years old)
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2013, 08:46:30 AM »
Thankssss, Dear Teacher, Mr. Mt. Spokane, and Thanks Mr. Graham.
I learn some thing new in this morning.
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Re: Question about 2 of my LP-E6 bettery( 2 years old)
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2013, 01:11:51 PM »
Hi Mr. Surapon
I'm not sure there is anything in my reply to learn, I think I was also learning from Mt. Spokane, I was merely expressing my dismay if what Mt. Spokane said is correct, which I do not dispute.
Also, please just call me Graham or Valvebounce,  8) Mr. is so formal, and typically only applied before my family name, Graham is my given name, though I appreciate your effort to be polite and hope what I ask does not offend you.

Cheers Graham.
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Re: Question about 2 of my LP-E6 bettery( 2 years old)
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2013, 01:14:35 PM »
Hi Mr. Surapon
I'm not sure there is anything in my reply to learn, I think I was also learning from Mt. Spokane, I was merely expressing my dismay if what Mt. Spokane said is correct, which I do not dispute.
Also, please just call me Graham or Valvebounce,  8) Mr. is so formal, and typically only applied before my family name, Graham is my given name, though I appreciate your effort to be polite and hope what I ask does not offend you.

Cheers Graham.

Actually, its something I picked up from Neuro's posts.  It all goes back to the Master :)

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Re: Question about 2 of my LP-E6 bettery( 2 years old)
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2013, 02:49:13 PM »
Opp, Sorry, Sir, I will not call any one   " Mr. " in CR posts again.
Yes, My Native = Thailand, Where we call " Mr" /" Khun"---Just for we honor Them for High level  group of People.
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Re: Question about 2 of my LP-E6 bettery( 2 years old)
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2013, 02:55:08 PM »
I've got one battery showing the red dot, still works fine. My two others are at 2 dots. Still work fine:)
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Re: Question about 2 of my LP-E6 bettery( 2 years old)
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2013, 08:57:09 PM »
Thanks you, Sir, Dear all of my Friends.
Yes, I will keep on using until the Batteries can not charge any more.
Thank again.
Surapon.
PS.  Yes, I  I do not know, Just ask the Experts, and  I will know next time.

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Re: Question about 2 of my LP-E6 bettery( 2 years old)
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2013, 09:51:10 PM »
The genuine battery may still be useable but do not rely too much on it. Always bring some spares.
Click on the link for detail elaboration. Update : have no idea why the link won't work - see attached captured image for the explanation


http://www.learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2011/eos5dmarkii_lp_e6_battery_article.shtml

« Last Edit: September 24, 2013, 10:47:53 PM by sama »

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Re: Question about 2 of my LP-E6 bettery( 2 years old)
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2013, 08:58:13 AM »
The genuine battery may still be useable but do not rely too much on it. Always bring some spares.
Click on the link for detail elaboration. Update : have no idea why the link won't work - see attached captured image for the explanation


http://www.learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2011/eos5dmarkii_lp_e6_battery_article.shtml

WOW, WOW, WOW---Thank you, Sir, Dear Sama.
That are the great/ New Information for some of us , who never know before.
Thanks
Surapon.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2013, 09:00:31 AM by surapon »

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Re: Question about 2 of my LP-E6 bettery( 2 years old)
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2013, 10:54:57 AM »
The genuine battery may still be useable but do not rely too much on it. Always bring some spares.
Click on the link for detail elaboration. Update : have no idea why the link won't work - see attached captured image for the explanation


http://www.learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2011/eos5dmarkii_lp_e6_battery_article.shtml

The link won't work because it points to the ftp server. Should be:

http://www.learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2011/eos5dmarkii_lp_e6_battery_article.shtml

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Re: Question about 2 of my LP-E6 bettery( 2 years old)
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2013, 12:50:22 PM »
The genuine battery may still be useable but do not rely too much on it. Always bring some spares.
Click on the link for detail elaboration. Update : have no idea why the link won't work - see attached captured image for the explanation


http://www.learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2011/eos5dmarkii_lp_e6_battery_article.shtml



The link won't work because it points to the ftp server. Should be:

http://www.learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2011/eos5dmarkii_lp_e6_battery_article.shtml

Thank you, Sir , dear Jhaces.
That are a great Infor.
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Re: Question about 2 of my LP-E6 bettery( 2 years old)
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2013, 01:31:17 PM »
This is what's great about this site. I just checked the charge in my LP-E6 battery the other day and saw that the "pleasantly reassuring" 3 green blocks are now 2 green blocks. I know the battery won't die on me any time soon but did wonder about the average number of recharges a user might expect and bingo!, here's a thread about the same thing (more or less).

I'm sure I read somewhere (probably here on CR) that newer technology batteries like the LP-E6 give better life expectancy if recharged from higher charge levels, say, 70% rather than letting them drop to around 15% or discharged fully. Does anyone know if that's an accurate statement and does anyone know the average number of charges we can expect to get from our genuine Canon batteries? I suspect it'll be a couple of years yet before I have to replace my one but it would be nice to know I'll have the Canon medium format body before then  ;).

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Re: Question about 2 of my LP-E6 bettery( 2 years old)
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2013, 08:48:10 AM »
This is what's great about this site. I just checked the charge in my LP-E6 battery the other day and saw that the "pleasantly reassuring" 3 green blocks are now 2 green blocks. I know the battery won't die on me any time soon but did wonder about the average number of recharges a user might expect and bingo!, here's a thread about the same thing (more or less).

I'm sure I read somewhere (probably here on CR) that newer technology batteries like the LP-E6 give better life expectancy if recharged from higher charge levels, say, 70% rather than letting them drop to around 15% or discharged fully. Does anyone know if that's an accurate statement and does anyone know the average number of charges we can expect to get from our genuine Canon batteries? I suspect it'll be a couple of years yet before I have to replace my one but it would be nice to know I'll have the Canon medium format body before then  ;).

Yes, +1 for me too "  but it would be nice to know I'll have the Canon medium format body before then :"
Thanks you, Sir, Dear  GuyF
Hopefully Canon  MF come out before I buy  3D or 1Dsx.
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