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Re: Photos from 200-400. Also any comments...
« Reply #90 on: November 01, 2013, 07:05:09 PM »
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If you're really interested, I would suggest Finland. There are some companies organizing photo safaris up north. Normally it is wolf and bear, but they also have a much larger population of lynx and wolverine, than we have here in Norway, so I would assume you could make them organize something that would suit you.
Check: http://www.insidenature.se/ostra-finland/ (you'll have to run it trough translation first though)

Thanks for pointing this out. Eastern Finland has a relatively large population of lynx and wolverine, and if you are serious, these guys could help you with wolverines and bears. There are several other people you could ask about, this one is famous for his book documenting his life with wolverines, but he does other stuff too.

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« Reply #90 on: November 01, 2013, 07:05:09 PM »

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« Reply #91 on: November 01, 2013, 07:21:44 PM »
First real shoot with this lens and I get to shoot a Lynx. Fantastic. The lens performed very well, but I must admit that i find it more difficult to handhold this one than the 600 f4L IS II. The reason being the zoom ring. But mounted on the Gitzo monopod with RRS head, all worked well.
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« Reply #92 on: November 06, 2013, 09:41:58 PM »
Shot Mala Mala South Africa, March 2013.

1Dx 200-400f/4, Shot @ 560mm f/5.6 1/200th ISO 200

It's interesting when I look at the stats on how I use this Lens, 70% of my Images shot with this Lens are at 560mm & f/5.6, considering I also have the 600f/4 II it's interesting that I don't use the 600 more often, but when I look at the stats on the 600, I find I mostly use that Lens at 840 (600 + 1.4x), can't beat the 200-400 when it comes to versatility.

But i do think I'll miss my 400f/2.8 II, fortunately I kept the 300f/2.8 II.
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« Reply #93 on: November 06, 2013, 10:24:08 PM »
Shot Mala Mala South Africa, March 2013.

1Dx 200-400f/4, Shot @ 560mm f/5.6 1/200th ISO 200

Gee whiz!  I don't think housecats with a 70-200 are going to cut it much longer at this rate!

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« Reply #94 on: November 06, 2013, 10:59:08 PM »
Shot Mala Mala South Africa, March 2013.

1Dx 200-400f/4, Shot @ 560mm f/5.6 1/200th ISO 200

Gee whiz!  I don't think housecats with a 70-200 are going to cut it much longer at this rate!

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« Reply #95 on: November 11, 2013, 01:19:11 PM »
Here´s one more from the Lynx encounter.
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« Reply #96 on: November 11, 2013, 06:26:10 PM »
Here´s one more from the Lynx encounter.

Lovely shot, great experience, it's encounters like this that push me out the door, always looking for the out of the ordinary experience.
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« Reply #96 on: November 11, 2013, 06:26:10 PM »

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« Reply #97 on: November 12, 2013, 01:15:30 AM »
Here´s one more from the Lynx encounter.

Lovely shot, great experience, it's encounters like this that push me out the door, always looking for the out of the ordinary experience.
Thanks Edward, I'm looking forward to your snow leopard ;)
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« Reply #98 on: November 12, 2013, 09:15:37 PM »
Thanks Edward, I'm looking forward to your snow leopard ;)

Me too, but it'll be late 2014/15 before I can even work it into the schedule.
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« Reply #99 on: November 17, 2013, 06:45:30 PM »
Has anyone used this lens in lower lighting conditions? There's a few shots in this thread that look like they were taken around dusk and turned out pretty well, but I'm curious about a bit more input.  I'm looking into getting my first "big white" and am mostly interested in this lens vs the 400 2.8.
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« Reply #100 on: November 18, 2013, 07:24:03 PM »
Has anyone used this lens in lower lighting conditions? There's a few shots in this thread that look like they were taken around dusk and turned out pretty well, but I'm curious about a bit more input.  I'm looking into getting my first "big white" and am mostly interested in this lens vs the 400 2.8.

I have had both Lenses on Safari, used both in low light/Dusk/Dawn shooting, the question is a good one and it's probably the biggest decision maker between these two lenses other than Sharpness. I've sold my 400f/2.8 L II since buying the 200-400f/4 but only after doing two Safari Trips with both Lenses to compare, and bringing along my 300f/2.8 L II as well.

I sold the 400f/2.8 II as I feel the versatility of the 200-400f/4 works for me in my own style of imaging to the point where the 400 was no longer necessary, but, this decision becomes easier when you have the 300f/2.8 II sitting waiting for those extreme low light situations.

The 400f/2.8 II is always going to be the better low light Lens, caveat here being what your shooting the lens on, I use the 1Dx and I find the combo unbeatable, the 5DMK III I also shoot with and it is not as good as the 1Dx in low light. The 400f/2.8 obviously has a full stop more light to play with over the 200-400f/4.

The 200-400f/4 though is no slouch in the low light department, what I have found is I simply operate the 200-400f/4 at 1600 or 2500 ISO where I would have operated the 400f/2.8 II at say 800 or 1250 ISO, any graining I take care of in Post. This is where the lighting conditions require higher ISO, otherwise during normal light conditions I would operate either lens at a Base 400, rarely do I shoot lower than ISO400.

Image quality comparisons I've found they two Lenses, same Length, same ISO same f/stop, are pretty evenly matched, again, I feel the Primes will always out the Zooms, but the 200-400f/4 compared to the 200f/2 (@f4) the 300f/2.8 II (@f4) the 400f/2.8 II (@f/4) the 600 f/4 (@f/5.6) and the 200-400 f/4 @ f/4 200/300/400 & 600 similar set up, you are going to find you need to go to zoom in quite a bit to begin to see the benefits IQ wise of the Primes over the Zoom, the 200-400f/4 is the best I have seen when comparing zoom to prime.

My feel is if you concentrate your imaging on low light you may want to go for the Primes, if your low light is say 10% of your Imaging, as is my own case, the Zooms versatility and first class IQ makes the 200-400 a better all round tool.

But that is an opinion knowing that I always have the 300f/2.8 II sitting ready for those low light extremes.

The attached were both shot @ ISO2500.

The Bush Baby with the 400f/2.8 II @ f/2.8

The Female Lion wight he 200-400f/4 @ f/5.6 560mm.

Not a true test of apples with apples, but both Lenses, on the 1Dx, work well in low light.

Both Images were shot with the 600EX-RT for fill flash.

Both Images shot well after sun down full dark, Both Images were shot with Spot light to gain focus, without the spot light neither shot could be achieved as no light/no focus.

This is one area where the f/2.8 will always out the f/4, a point where it's just too dark for the f/4 to achieve focus and the f/2.8 possibly still can.
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Re: Photos from 200-400. Also any comments...
« Reply #101 on: November 21, 2013, 02:43:57 PM »
Has anyone used this lens in lower lighting conditions? There's a few shots in this thread that look like they were taken around dusk and turned out pretty well, but I'm curious about a bit more input.  I'm looking into getting my first "big white" and am mostly interested in this lens vs the 400 2.8.

I have had both Lenses on Safari, used both in low light/Dusk/Dawn shooting, the question is a good one and it's probably the biggest decision maker between these two lenses other than Sharpness. I've sold my 400f/2.8 L II since buying the 200-400f/4 but only after doing two Safari Trips with both Lenses to compare, and bringing along my 300f/2.8 L II as well.

I sold the 400f/2.8 II as I feel the versatility of the 200-400f/4 works for me in my own style of imaging to the point where the 400 was no longer necessary, but, this decision becomes easier when you have the 300f/2.8 II sitting waiting for those extreme low light situations.

The 400f/2.8 II is always going to be the better low light Lens, caveat here being what your shooting the lens on, I use the 1Dx and I find the combo unbeatable, the 5DMK III I also shoot with and it is not as good as the 1Dx in low light. The 400f/2.8 obviously has a full stop more light to play with over the 200-400f/4.

The 200-400f/4 though is no slouch in the low light department, what I have found is I simply operate the 200-400f/4 at 1600 or 2500 ISO where I would have operated the 400f/2.8 II at say 800 or 1250 ISO, any graining I take care of in Post. This is where the lighting conditions require higher ISO, otherwise during normal light conditions I would operate either lens at a Base 400, rarely do I shoot lower than ISO400.

Image quality comparisons I've found they two Lenses, same Length, same ISO same f/stop, are pretty evenly matched, again, I feel the Primes will always out the Zooms, but the 200-400f/4 compared to the 200f/2 (@f4) the 300f/2.8 II (@f4) the 400f/2.8 II (@f/4) the 600 f/4 (@f/5.6) and the 200-400 f/4 @ f/4 200/300/400 & 600 similar set up, you are going to find you need to go to zoom in quite a bit to begin to see the benefits IQ wise of the Primes over the Zoom, the 200-400f/4 is the best I have seen when comparing zoom to prime.

My feel is if you concentrate your imaging on low light you may want to go for the Primes, if your low light is say 10% of your Imaging, as is my own case, the Zooms versatility and first class IQ makes the 200-400 a better all round tool.

But that is an opinion knowing that I always have the 300f/2.8 II sitting ready for those low light extremes.

The attached were both shot @ ISO2500.

The Bush Baby with the 400f/2.8 II @ f/2.8

The Female Lion wight he 200-400f/4 @ f/5.6 560mm.

Not a true test of apples with apples, but both Lenses, on the 1Dx, work well in low light.

Both Images were shot with the 600EX-RT for fill flash.

Both Images shot well after sun down full dark, Both Images were shot with Spot light to gain focus, without the spot light neither shot could be achieved as no light/no focus.

This is one area where the f/2.8 will always out the f/4, a point where it's just too dark for the f/4 to achieve focus and the f/2.8 possibly still can.
That Lioness looks p!ssed ... great shot.
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« Reply #102 on: November 21, 2013, 09:50:35 PM »
That Lioness looks p!ssed ... great shot.

I was actually out of the vehicle taking a leak when I looked down slope and saw this Lady heading my way, with intent I'm sure. I can tell you i squeezed off pretty quick.

As soon as I got back into the vehicle she stopped and seemed confused, it's amazing how habituated these Animals get to the vehicle, in the vehicle they don't seem to see you as Food, out of the vehicle you really do become part of the Food Chain.

I grabbed a dozen Images before jumping back into the Vehicle, love that 12fps on the 1Dx.
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« Reply #103 on: November 21, 2013, 10:17:44 PM »
Tanzania 2013

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« Reply #104 on: November 21, 2013, 11:12:50 PM »
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