September 21, 2014, 10:27:43 PM

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I wish Canon would:

Offer a tiny, retro styled, big sensor mirrorless camera with dials and buttons
19 (24.7%)
Stick to DSLRs and stay the course
50 (64.9%)
Go completely out of the box, like Sony is doing with the QX line. Something wild
2 (2.6%)
Focus on medium format
6 (7.8%)

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Holidays 2013: Where the Heck is Canon?
« on: October 15, 2013, 02:27:52 PM »
I'm a Canon shooter and have been a Canon shooter for decades. I'm ready to buy a camera. But before I go for that 5DM3, I have to say that I'm tempted to jump ship. It seems like there's a lot of innovation happening elsewhere right now (with the 70D being the exception, but video is not my top priority) and Canon seems to be lagging.

Where is the EOSM2???

The idea of having a tiny, pocketable camera that can share lenses with a full featured beast is really appealing. I need to rent an EOSM1 to see if it is really as bad as so many people on YouTube and online claim to judge for myself. But for a while, everything was pointing to an EOSM2, so I've waited. And waited. The EOSM looks nice, but I like buttons and dials for direct access more than pure touch screen ui. And I'd be mainly using it for street photography, where silence is golden, and this camera is not quiet, much less silent.

I'm seriously considering an Olympus EM-1 and the rumored Panasonic GM1 as a combo. Those two bodies can be had for less than a 5DM3, and the M4/3 lens selection rivals Canon, and wins on price. Of course, I won't get the 5D FF low light/high ISO performance. But the other benefits are pretty appealing.

Other manufacturers are about to have a pretty revolutionary week:

    * Sony has 2 FF mirrorless cameras coming!
    * Fuji has 2 new cameras coming
    * Panasonic is about to announce the world's smallest ILC 4/3 camera
    * Olympus has unveiled the EM1, and it looks to be an amazing camera
    * Nikon (can I say that word here?   ;)    ) even released the AW1, which sounds pretty cool. Shockproof. Dive proof? Neat!

C'mon Canon!!!  I really don't want to give up all of that muscle memory and your wonderful UI. It still fits me best. To say nothing of my glass. Where are you this year? Are the holidays REALLY going to come and go without you? Are we really going to have to wait until 2014? I don't know if I want to wait that long...
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Holidays 2013: Where the Heck is Canon?
« on: October 15, 2013, 02:27:52 PM »

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Re: Holidays 2013: Where the Heck is Canon?
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2013, 04:07:42 PM »
What innovation I need is a blinky LED to light up my AF point in my MK3.

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Re: Holidays 2013: Where the Heck is Canon?
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2013, 04:11:59 PM »
@douglas: Why don't you just purchase those mirrorless cameras and be done with it? It doesn't appear to me that you value the extra capabilities of a 5D Mark III sufficiently to really go for that. I for one stick to my 1D-X and 5D Mark III and may potentially purchase an EOS-M only because of weight limitations for carry-on luggage. I don't see why I would invest in a second or third system just because of that.

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Re: Holidays 2013: Where the Heck is Canon?
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2013, 04:14:53 PM »
I vote for:

• Release updated versions of the 35/1.4L and 100-400L.
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Re: Holidays 2013: Where the Heck is Canon?
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2013, 04:38:03 PM »
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Sorry, this year Canon is putting it's money on "limited edition" PowerShots at bloated prices. Straight out of bizarro world!

Seriously, I'm pregnant with anticipation for the next EOS M developments. I want to replace my T2i as a second camera (to the 5D3). A 70D may be the answer, but I'd really prefer something smaller that will do comparable IQ.

I've thought a lot about the alternatives. They have a lot to offer, but I don't like the idea of two systems, and none of them seem as consistently reliable as Canon.

As always, I'm patient.

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Re: Holidays 2013: Where the Heck is Canon?
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2013, 04:41:01 PM »
I vote for:

• Release updated versions of the 35/1.4L and 100-400L.

+100 for the 35 L II, I was just now flipping through som older images shot with the 35, and I miss it!
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Re: Holidays 2013: Where the Heck is Canon?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2013, 05:28:08 PM »
Well I wish you luck with that Ship Jumping stuff, if you find something that does it for you, be sure to let us know.

In the famous words of one of the CR members, and I'm surprised he's restrained himself.

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Re: Holidays 2013: Where the Heck is Canon?
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Re: Holidays 2013: Where the Heck is Canon?
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2013, 05:35:57 PM »
It seems like there's a lot of innovation happening elsewhere right now (with the 70D being the exception, but video is not my top priority) and Canon seems to be lagging.
Every company is always lagging some other company in something.  If you pick a week when Canon has no announcements, you'll find someone else innovating more that week.  If you only look at things that meet your personal priorities, you can miss a lot that is relevant to other photographers.  Right now, Canon is making photographers happy with innovative products like the 600EX-RT, ST-E3-RT, 17 T-SE, 8-15 fisheye, 200-400 with built-in 1.4X extender, SL1 (world's smallest & lightest DSLR), three small high quality primes with built-in IS (24, 28, 35), a fantastic AF 40mm pancake lens, ... and of course the 70D.

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Re: Holidays 2013: Where the Heck is Canon?
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2013, 06:16:38 PM »
a sony RX100 II like camera from canon would be nice.
the G16 is not bad but a ugly brick.

something that shows what is possible today.
bigger sensor then S series (prefered a 1″ 13.2 x 8.8 mm).
with a really nice lens that starts at f1.8 or f2 and covers 20-90mm.
1000k-dot touchscreen, gps, 8-12 fps, hotshoe and wifi.
and very important, pocketable!

i don´t think i ask for something impossible.


im tempted to buy a m43 again, the small GM1 from panasonic. but it´s still a little to big.
and i don´t need a interchangeable lens system.
just a bigger sensor then the S series with a very good 20/24-80/90mm zoom lens.

im very happy with my canon DSLR cameras.
but i want a really good "carry all day" camera from canon.
a high-end "p&s"camera i can use my canon equipment with.
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Re: Holidays 2013: Where the Heck is Canon?
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2013, 06:34:46 PM »
For all the competition announced the MkIII remains unsurpassed. However, my advice is to include the selected metering mode in the viewfinder info instead of on the LCD panel only. If not firmware an enhanced version could amend this. 
« Last Edit: October 15, 2013, 06:36:47 PM by George D. »
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Re: Holidays 2013: Where the Heck is Canon?
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2013, 07:03:00 PM »
To me, it's a quite simple.

1. If you want retro-compact: Fuji X series
2. 35mm sensor in tiny body: Sony RX1 & up coming A series
3. Best tracking DSRL(larger body size) + great lens selection with great IQ: Canon

And if you want all these, then, buy them all. Problem solved.
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Re: Holidays 2013: Where the Heck is Canon?
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2013, 07:55:43 PM »
What innovation I need is a blinky LED to light up my AF point in my MK3.
+1 Make that a red LED showing the AF points...for 1DX, 5D3 (or their successors) plus the 7D2.
If Canon went with the familiar, useful red LED AF points on the 7D2, this would be a useful, reassuring "we got it wrong" statement with regards to the frequently irritating, semi-visible black AF points on 1DX & 5D3.

As for "where the heck is Canon" I'd say way out in front. They're clear leaders in global sales and most recent releases have been winners. A better M will be appreciated, but if you need more mirrorless choice, the marketplace is drowning in brilliant options. Check out the newest Olympus OM-D.

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Re: Holidays 2013: Where the Heck is Canon?
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2013, 08:40:36 PM »
Well, Canon MUST have something in the pipeline for the Holiday season.  I'm pretty sure it's not going to be too exciting, most likely along the lines of EOS-M2 and a lens or two.  I am secretly hoping for a 50L II, though. 

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Re: Holidays 2013: Where the Heck is Canon?
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Re: Holidays 2013: Where the Heck is Canon?
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2013, 09:06:06 PM »
What innovation I need is a blinky LED to light up my AF point in my MK3.
I vote for:

• Release updated versions of the 35/1.4L and 100-400L.

Ditto & Ditto!  Then... Happy Holidays!!
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Re: Holidays 2013: Where the Heck is Canon?
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2013, 09:30:23 PM »
I was going to say I want an APS-C or full frame compact, but now that I think of it I really want to be able to clean my sensor. Even if the whole thing were weather sealed, dust would make its way in eventually.

Put me up for a retro styled EOS-M2 covered in buttons and dials.
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Re: Holidays 2013: Where the Heck is Canon?
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2013, 09:30:23 PM »