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Re: How to use cf and sd cards Mark5d3
« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2014, 05:42:04 PM »
Hi JD.
You may have a slot on your computer, but I have a card reader that does multi format, that and the lead are smaller than a pack of 20 ciggies by quite a margin, and it is fast with CF cards. ;D

Cheers Graham.

Or hopefully they will ditch SD for 2 really fast CFs
An sd card is convenient for me because I have a shot in my computer for sd cards, but not cf.
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Re: How to use cf and sd cards Mark5d3
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Re: How to use cf and sd cards Mark5d3
« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2014, 06:16:52 PM »
Or hopefully they will ditch SD for 2 really fast CFs

They already have.  Its called a 1dx.  The SD card was added to the 5diii as a low cost way to back up shots when shooting important events like weddings.  Canon had to keep the price point down and this was just one feature that was scaled down to meet their price point.

  The 5diii was designed with wedding, portrait, and event photography in mind.  Not high speed shooting such as with the 1dx..which was designed around sports photography.

By using CF and SD at the same time you have a built in backup copy of your images.


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Re: How to use cf and sd cards Mark5d3
« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2014, 07:26:28 PM »
Or hopefully they will ditch SD for 2 really fast CFs

They already have.  Its called a 1dx.  The SD card was added to the 5diii as a low cost way to back up shots when shooting important events like weddings.  Canon had to keep the price point down and this was just one feature that was scaled down to meet their price point.

  The 5diii was designed with wedding, portrait, and event photography in mind.  Not high speed shooting such as with the 1dx..which was designed around sports photography.

By using CF and SD at the same time you have a built in backup copy of your images.

But the mkiii has a really nice af system only second to the 1dx... so sure one is ideal... but the other is no slouch.
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Re: How to use cf and sd cards Mark5d3
« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2014, 07:48:38 PM »
Or hopefully they will ditch SD for 2 really fast CFs

They already have.  Its called a 1dx.  The SD card was added to the 5diii as a low cost way to back up shots when shooting important events like weddings.  Canon had to keep the price point down and this was just one feature that was scaled down to meet their price point.

  The 5diii was designed with wedding, portrait, and event photography in mind.  Not high speed shooting such as with the 1dx..which was designed around sports photography.

By using CF and SD at the same time you have a built in backup copy of your images.

But the mkiii has a really nice af system only second to the 1dx... so sure one is ideal... but the other is no slouch.

Oh i agree.  I tried the 1dx and while it was a fine camera, the 5diii was better for my needs.  I shoot mostly wildlife.  The point was that in order to make the price right they could not include all of the 1dx tech.  For the design purpose of the 5diii, CF and SD slot is good enough.


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Re: How to use cf and sd cards Mark5d3
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2014, 10:10:14 PM »
Or hopefully they will ditch SD for 2 really fast CFs

SD is where it's at for photo use. The latest SDXC cards are on par with high-end CF performance and they work in laptops. CF really has nothing going for it at this point apart from high-capacity designs for shooting video at high-bitrates.

I disagree - I prefer CF for its size, robustness and handling. The cards are big enough that I can change them out with one hand, toss one in my camera bag and be able to easily find it again. SD cards are a little more fiddly in that sense and easier to loose too.
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Re: How to use cf and sd cards Mark5d3
« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2014, 10:21:14 PM »
Or hopefully they will ditch SD for 2 really fast CFs

SD is where it's at for photo use. The latest SDXC cards are on par with high-end CF performance and they work in laptops. CF really has nothing going for it at this point apart from high-capacity designs for shooting video at high-bitrates.

I disagree - I prefer CF for its size, robustness and handling. The cards are big enough that I can change them out with one hand, toss one in my camera bag and be able to easily find it again. SD cards are a little more fiddly in that sense and easier to loose too.

Here's a borderline dumb question.  Could manufacturers design a camera that uses solid state drives?  Would that be faster than current transfer rates?
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Re: How to use cf and sd cards Mark5d3
« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2014, 10:27:32 PM »
Product dimensions:
2 inches x 0.1 inches x 1.2 inches; 0.6 ounces

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This for instance...

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Re: How to use cf and sd cards Mark5d3
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Re: How to use cf and sd cards Mark5d3
« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2014, 10:41:24 PM »
Or hopefully they will ditch SD for 2 really fast CFs

SD is where it's at for photo use. The latest SDXC cards are on par with high-end CF performance and they work in laptops. CF really has nothing going for it at this point apart from high-capacity designs for shooting video at high-bitrates.

I disagree - I prefer CF for its size, robustness and handling. The cards are big enough that I can change them out with one hand, toss one in my camera bag and be able to easily find it again. SD cards are a little more fiddly in that sense and easier to loose too.

Here's a borderline dumb question.  Could manufacturers design a camera that uses solid state drives?  Would that be faster than current transfer rates?

Solid state drives use flash memory just like memory cards. In fact a SSD is little more than a big memory card with advanced disk management to prevent the memory from breaking because of the same sectors being written to all the time. So technically speaking we already have SSD's in our camera's and the best thing about that is that they're easily exchanged when more capacity is needed ;)
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Re: How to use cf and sd cards Mark5d3
« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2014, 11:37:36 PM »
Could manufacturers design a camera that uses solid state drives?  Would that be faster than current transfer rates?
SSD's and CF cards & SD cards are basically the same thing...same tech, different shapes. So you've got what you wanted already! If you have a daily need for speed, just buy the fastest cards you can afford. They genuinely make a very tangible difference.

A bit of best forgotten history...Around the turn of the millennium when a 128Mb card was quite big, a lot of photographers burned their money and lost lots of data on a CF card shaped device called MicroDrive. I had one which was a then massive 512Mb...and it was a tiny spinning HDD. It seems unbelievable now. They were scarey devices with an alarmingly high failure rate.....shudder.....

Check out the wiki page and thank your lucky stars for solid state memory:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microdrive

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Re: How to use cf and sd cards Mark5d3
« Reply #39 on: February 15, 2014, 12:05:51 AM »
Could manufacturers design a camera that uses solid state drives?  Would that be faster than current transfer rates?
SSD's and CF cards & SD cards are basically the same thing...same tech, different shapes. So you've got what you wanted already! If you have a daily need for speed, just buy the fastest cards you can afford. They genuinely make a very tangible difference.

A bit of best forgotten history...Around the turn of the millennium when a 128Mb card was quite big, a lot of photographers burned their money and lost lots of data on a CF card shaped device called MicroDrive. I had one which was a then massive 512Mb...and it was a tiny spinning HDD. It seems unbelievable now. They were scarey devices with an alarmingly high failure rate.....shudder.....

Check out the wiki page and thank your lucky stars for solid state memory:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microdrive

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When I bought my first card, it was an MMC... and I bought it off ebay... and I remember getting the big card... but I'm trying to remember how "big" the "big" card was.  I want to say 32MB... but it very well could have been 16. 
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Re: How to use cf and sd cards Mark5d3
« Reply #40 on: February 15, 2014, 07:07:35 AM »
Could manufacturers design a camera that uses solid state drives?  Would that be faster than current transfer rates?
SSD's and CF cards & SD cards are basically the same thing...same tech, different shapes. So you've got what you wanted already! If you have a daily need for speed, just buy the fastest cards you can afford. They genuinely make a very tangible difference.

A bit of best forgotten history...Around the turn of the millennium when a 128Mb card was quite big, a lot of photographers burned their money and lost lots of data on a CF card shaped device called MicroDrive. I had one which was a then massive 512Mb...and it was a tiny spinning HDD. It seems unbelievable now. They were scarey devices with an alarmingly high failure rate.....shudder.....

Check out the wiki page and thank your lucky stars for solid state memory:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microdrive

-pw

I had an XS drive - a portable battery powered card reader and harddrive that allowed me to copy my CF cards to disk so I could then reuse the CF cards. I had two 2Gb CF cards at the time and they were really expensive, so copying to this affordable drive was a good budget option. It was however very scary because there was not really a good way to check if the data was actually transferred properly. I used this system when I travelled to Malaysia in 2008 and fortunately I didn't loose a single photo.

http://www.photographyblog.com/news/xs_drive_2_smart_2300/
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Re: How to use cf and sd cards Mark5d3
« Reply #41 on: February 15, 2014, 07:48:47 AM »
I've tried all the configurations and have settled to shooting only CF in the past 6 months. I own a grundle of cards and always have at least 2 with me so I have yet to run out of space. I have had a poor relationship with SD cards,too fragile for me and I dislike the slider switch. All RAW except for the occasional b&w jpeg shoot for kicks.I used to hate forgetting to switch the card slot after removing the CF when I shot dual slots, using only the CF solves that.
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Re: How to use cf and sd cards Mark5d3
« Reply #42 on: February 15, 2014, 09:01:51 AM »
I've tried all the configurations and have settled to shooting only CF in the past 6 months. I own a grundle of cards and always have at least 2 with me so I have yet to run out of space. I have had a poor relationship with SD cards,too fragile for me and I dislike the slider switch. All RAW except for the occasional b&w jpeg shoot for kicks.I used to hate forgetting to switch the card slot after removing the CF when I shot dual slots, using only the CF solves that.

These are the sort of issues I want to know about before I will invest in an SD card. So how about the following scenarios?

Let's say I have a 4GB CF and a 32 GB SD. While shooting I fill the CF and remove it. Will the camera then continue on the SD card only?

And let's say I remove the CF and replace it with a fresh 4GB card, will the camera then continue recording on the SD where it left off?

Thanks
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Re: How to use cf and sd cards Mark5d3
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Re: How to use cf and sd cards Mark5d3
« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2014, 10:19:32 AM »
I've tried all the configurations and have settled to shooting only CF in the past 6 months. I own a grundle of cards and always have at least 2 with me so I have yet to run out of space. I have had a poor relationship with SD cards,too fragile for me and I dislike the slider switch. All RAW except for the occasional b&w jpeg shoot for kicks.I used to hate forgetting to switch the card slot after removing the CF when I shot dual slots, using only the CF solves that.

These are the sort of issues I want to know about before I will invest in an SD card. So how about the following scenarios?

Let's say I have a 4GB CF and a 32 GB SD. While shooting I fill the CF and remove it. Will the camera then continue on the SD card only?

And let's say I remove the CF and replace it with a fresh 4GB card, will the camera then continue recording on the SD where it left off?

Thanks

It will do what you tell it to do. Write to one. Write to both, Write to one then the other. And all these configurations in all manners of file formats. And yes, if you remove a card it will automatically write to the remaining card regardless of previous configuration.
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Re: How to use cf and sd cards Mark5d3
« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2014, 10:41:56 AM »
I've tried all the configurations and have settled to shooting only CF in the past 6 months. I own a grundle of cards and always have at least 2 with me so I have yet to run out of space. I have had a poor relationship with SD cards,too fragile for me and I dislike the slider switch. All RAW except for the occasional b&w jpeg shoot for kicks.I used to hate forgetting to switch the card slot after removing the CF when I shot dual slots, using only the CF solves that.

These are the sort of issues I want to know about before I will invest in an SD card. So how about the following scenarios?

Let's say I have a 4GB CF and a 32 GB SD. While shooting I fill the CF and remove it. Will the camera then continue on the SD card only?

And let's say I remove the CF and replace it with a fresh 4GB card, will the camera then continue recording on the SD where it left off?

Thanks

It will do what you tell it to do. Write to one. Write to both, Write to one then the other. And all these configurations in all manners of file formats. And yes, if you remove a card it will automatically write to the remaining card regardless of previous configuration.

And even when the camera is "off".  If you leave the card door open and replace the cf card it will stay on the previous setting.  However as soon as you close the door it will switch to the SD card.

I reported this issue to Canon and it was fixed in the 1dx but not in the 5diii.

I just use the usb to download now and leave the cards innthe camera.  Lots of reports of bent cf pins so i reduce that risk by just leaving thm in the slot.


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