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Re: Canon EF-M 55-200 f/4.5-6.3 IS STM Gets Official
« Reply #45 on: June 17, 2014, 07:52:03 PM »
Looks like Canada will get it too so for those in the US that want this lens but don't want to pay crazy Euro/Asian prices, Canadian retailers should stock it for around $420:

http://www.canon.ca/inetCA/newsroom?m=getPress&pid=2167

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Re: Canon EF-M 55-200 f/4.5-6.3 IS STM Gets Official
« Reply #45 on: June 17, 2014, 07:52:03 PM »

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« Reply #46 on: June 17, 2014, 11:40:02 PM »
Yeah cost will be the other one. I already have the adapter and have seen the 55-250 STM for some decent prices lately. Cheaper than this forecast price and if it isn't pocketable (in otherwords anything except the 22mm pancake) then it goes in a bag where even my smallest config would have no real difference carrying this or the EF-S via adapter.

That is noticeably smaller though so can imagine a few people being pretty happy with that.

I was already impressed with the weight of the EFS 55-250 IS STM compared to my 70-200 f/4 L IS.  Even with the adapter the M/adapter/EFS 55-250 STM compares favorably to my 6D/70-200 f/4 L IS combo when hiking.  Cutting the weight by half and size by a third may convince me to go for the EFM 55-200, probably after a future long hike.  Its about 50% longer and slightly heavier than the other M zooms.   This plus the 11-22 are likely all I would carry in most hiking situations.
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Re: Canon EF-M 55-200 f/4.5-6.3 IS STM Gets Official
« Reply #47 on: June 18, 2014, 02:04:05 AM »
Wow, now its clear: global launch of a new Canon lens ... Japan, all of Asia, all of Europe, Australia, New Zealand, all of South America, all of North America  ... minus the US.

All of you "not more than 299 dollars for the full EOS-M kit Yanks" must really have caused some hard feelings in Tokyo. They won't give you new EF-M toys any more. No, no, no ... You've been bad and Canon will punish you. Fat mirrorslappers is all you'll be served for dinner from now on.

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PS: how stupid and shortsighted a "strategy" ...

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Re: Canon EF-M 55-200 f/4.5-6.3 IS STM Gets Official
« Reply #48 on: June 18, 2014, 03:27:11 AM »
Wow, now its clear: global launch of a new Canon lens ... Japan, all of Asia, all of Europe, Australia, New Zealand, all of South America, all of North America  ... minus the US.

All of you "not more than 299 dollars for the full EOS-M kit Yanks" must really have caused some hard feelings in Tokyo. They won't give you new EF-M toys any more. No, no, no ... You've been bad and Canon will punish you. Fat mirrorslappers is all you'll be served for dinner from now on.

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PS: how stupid and shortsighted a "strategy" ...

Working in a large multinational corporation myself, there is a another possibility.  Product quotas are a constant negotiation, particularly with new products.  After initial failures due to high price,  lack of features, limited lens selection, etc. in the US, Canon USA decided not to accept a quota from corporate for the M products until there is a more competitive product offering so they can be successful selling it.  This may be a more likely scenario than Canon HQ withholding it from the US market.  Other regions/countries may not have the clout with corporate to do this or find that they have a sufficient market to meet their quotas.
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Re: Canon EF-M 55-200 f/4.5-6.3 IS STM Gets Official
« Reply #49 on: June 18, 2014, 07:09:10 AM »
I am very happy with this announcement. I have planned for some time to get the M with the 22mm, now this will make the whole package even more attractive as a second camera for travel and also the weekend family outings. They wouldn't launch this lens if they weren't committed to this platform, it's just that they are doing it in their own pace. Well done Canon.

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Re: Canon EF-M 55-200 f/4.5-6.3 IS STM Gets Official
« Reply #50 on: June 18, 2014, 07:43:44 AM »
Wow, now its clear: global launch of a new Canon lens ... Japan, all of Asia, all of Europe, Australia, New Zealand, all of South America, all of North America  ... minus the US.

All of you "not more than 299 dollars for the full EOS-M kit Yanks" must really have caused some hard feelings in Tokyo. They won't give you new EF-M toys any more. No, no, no ... You've been bad and Canon will punish you. Fat mirrorslappers is all you'll be served for dinner from now on.

Hehehe!


PS: how stupid and shortsighted a "strategy" ...

Working in a large multinational corporation myself, there is a another possibility.  Product quotas are a constant negotiation, particularly with new products.  After initial failures due to high price,  lack of features, limited lens selection, etc. in the US, Canon USA decided not to accept a quota from corporate for the M products until there is a more competitive product offering so they can be successful selling it.  This may be a more likely scenario than Canon HQ withholding it from the US market.  Other regions/countries may not have the clout with corporate to do this or find that they have a sufficient market to meet their quotas.
Any insight if it would be Canon HQ withholding from the US market or would it be the other way around with Canon US deciding not to carry a particular lineup? I have the 18-55 with a 22/F2 on the way from eBay. I live in Canada and could pick up a 11-22 for cheap at the local bricks and mortar but have been waiting to see the long term strategy for the M line. The release of the 55-200 leaves me very hopeful that the M series has some legs. After having used the M in a couple of its intended uses - I really like it and I anxiously await the M3...

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Re: Canon EF-M 55-200 f/4.5-6.3 IS STM Gets Official
« Reply #51 on: June 18, 2014, 08:26:49 AM »
Wow, now its clear: global launch of a new Canon lens ... Japan, all of Asia, all of Europe, Australia, New Zealand, all of South America, all of North America  ... minus the US.

All of you "not more than 299 dollars for the full EOS-M kit Yanks" must really have caused some hard feelings in Tokyo. They won't give you new EF-M toys any more. No, no, no ... You've been bad and Canon will punish you. Fat mirrorslappers is all you'll be served for dinner from now on.

Hehehe!


PS: how stupid and shortsighted a "strategy" ...

Nice to see your comprehension of business practices remains as obtuse as ever. 
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Re: Canon EF-M 55-200 f/4.5-6.3 IS STM Gets Official
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Re: Canon EF-M 55-200 f/4.5-6.3 IS STM Gets Official
« Reply #52 on: June 18, 2014, 08:31:27 AM »
Wow, now its clear: global launch of a new Canon lens ... Japan, all of Asia, all of Europe, Australia, New Zealand, all of South America, all of North America  ... minus the US.

All of you "not more than 299 dollars for the full EOS-M kit Yanks" must really have caused some hard feelings in Tokyo. They won't give you new EF-M toys any more. No, no, no ... You've been bad and Canon will punish you. Fat mirrorslappers is all you'll be served for dinner from now on.

Hehehe!


PS: how stupid and shortsighted a "strategy" ...

Nice to see your comprehension of business practices remains as obtuse as ever.
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Re: Canon EF-M 55-200 f/4.5-6.3 IS STM Gets Official
« Reply #53 on: June 18, 2014, 12:10:26 PM »
"Global launch" of a product ... except U.S. ... does not happen very often ... a bit like "semi pregnant" :-)

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Re: Canon EF-M 55-200 f/4.5-6.3 IS STM Gets Official
« Reply #54 on: June 18, 2014, 02:49:08 PM »

Any insight if it would be Canon HQ withholding from the US market or would it be the other way around with Canon US deciding not to carry a particular lineup? I have the 18-55 with a 22/F2 on the way from eBay. I live in Canada and could pick up a 11-22 for cheap at the local bricks and mortar but have been waiting to see the long term strategy for the M line. The release of the 55-200 leaves me very hopeful that the M series has some legs. After having used the M in a couple of its intended uses - I really like it and I anxiously await the M3...

there was an interview with the Canon CEO that basically said it's up to the regions on what they carry.

let's face it.. only 100,000 MILC's were shipped to USA so far this year.  that's with all the sony, fuji,etc new products released over the last 6 months or so.

there just isn't a market or a demand for them in the states.

and if you ever check the MSRP in yen and do the conversion to USD - you'll see that canon (HQ or USA) eats alot of money on exchange - so combine the two doesn't sound that favorable to launch an entire line including support, warranty service and training, and distribution to only take a loss on it.


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Re: Canon EF-M 55-200 f/4.5-6.3 IS STM Gets Official
« Reply #55 on: June 19, 2014, 01:56:18 PM »
Sounds cool but as I already have the 55-250 STM for the SL1, there's little to gain for me here. OTOH, a compact super zoom like an 18-200 would be nice.

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Re: Canon EF-M 55-200 f/4.5-6.3 IS STM Gets Official
« Reply #56 on: June 19, 2014, 03:05:36 PM »
Where are 135 2.8 and 85 2.0 and 50 1.4 for M? Come on Canon, we need some nice primes!
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Re: Canon EF-M 55-200 f/4.5-6.3 IS STM Gets Official
« Reply #57 on: June 20, 2014, 02:06:55 AM »
Where are 135 2.8 and 85 2.0 and 50 1.4 for M? Come on Canon, we need some nice primes!
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I don't see a lot of EFS primes so I'm not really surprised by the lack of EFM primes.
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« Reply #57 on: June 20, 2014, 02:06:55 AM »

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Re: Canon EF-M 55-200 f/4.5-6.3 IS STM Gets Official
« Reply #58 on: June 20, 2014, 04:52:15 AM »
Where are 135 2.8 and 85 2.0 and 50 1.4 for M? Come on Canon, we need some nice primes!
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I don't see a lot of EFS primes so I'm not really surprised by the lack of EFM primes.

EFS primes don't make much sense to me (except a dedicated macro which they already made) but EFM primes would be small and that is a pretty clear advantage for the M system. Just look at the 22mm f/2, it's tiny. A 35 or 55 prime could be enticing if they were fast primes like 1.8 or even 1.4 (though I doubt it would be 1.4). I think a prime in the portrait range would be ideal to compliment the 35mm fov from the 22/2.

FWIW the FD 50/1.4 works really nicely on the M via adaptor. It's a nice focal length but the lack of AF can make it a tricky lens to use when taking pics of moving subjects. That's why I want to see a 50ish prime for M with AF.
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Re: Canon EF-M 55-200 f/4.5-6.3 IS STM Gets Official
« Reply #59 on: June 22, 2014, 12:31:50 PM »
Where are 135 2.8 and 85 2.0 and 50 1.4 for M? Come on Canon, we need some nice primes!
Yup

I don't see a lot of EFS primes so I'm not really surprised by the lack of EFM primes.

EFS primes don't make much sense to me (except a dedicated macro which they already made) but EFM primes would be small and that is a pretty clear advantage for the M system. Just look at the 22mm f/2, it's tiny. A 35 or 55 prime could be enticing if they were fast primes like 1.8 or even 1.4 (though I doubt it would be 1.4). I think a prime in the portrait range would be ideal to compliment the 35mm fov from the 22/2.

FWIW the FD 50/1.4 works really nicely on the M via adaptor. It's a nice focal length but the lack of AF can make it a tricky lens to use when taking pics of moving subjects. That's why I want to see a 50ish prime for M with AF.
I just tried my Canon 50/1.4 with the EF-M and turned off the continuous AF feature as it was hunting around like crazy. The few test shots I did seemed to hold promise and it is indeed a nice portrait length.

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