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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS II [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2014, 06:18:33 PM »
I hope there is some truth to this rumor.  I've had a long telezoom on my list for a while.

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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS II [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2014, 06:18:33 PM »

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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS II [CR1]
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2014, 06:30:59 PM »
If the focus ring was at the other end of the push/pull barrel so it didn't get turned accidentally, and if the IS was worth anything, it would be a far more pleasant lens to use.

Have you used the 70-300L?  The design places the focus ring next to the body, the zoom ring further out. That's reversed from other L lenses, and means your hand (well, mine at any rate) reflexively grabs the focus ring when intending to zoom.  A real PITA, and if the new 100-400 has a similar design, it would be unfortunate.
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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS II [CR1]
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2014, 08:10:25 PM »
If the focus ring was at the other end of the push/pull barrel so it didn't get turned accidentally, and if the IS was worth anything, it would be a far more pleasant lens to use.

Have you used the 70-300L?  The design places the focus ring next to the body, the zoom ring further out. That's reversed from other L lenses, and means your hand (well, mine at any rate) reflexively grabs the focus ring when intending to zoom.  A real PITA, and if the new 100-400 has a similar design, it would be unfortunate.

I own the older Tamron super zoom (200-500mm). Its focus ring is placed where it is next to the camera's body...and I kind of like it that way! When used on a monopod or tripod, it seems a lot better that way...but certainly different from my Canon lenses.
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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS II [CR1]
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2014, 08:42:46 PM »
It will have to outperform the Tamron 150-600.  If it does, I'll buy.

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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS II [CR1]
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2014, 08:46:44 PM »
If the focus ring was at the other end of the push/pull barrel so it didn't get turned accidentally, and if the IS was worth anything, it would be a far more pleasant lens to use.

Have you used the 70-300L?  The design places the focus ring next to the body, the zoom ring further out. That's reversed from other L lenses, and means your hand (well, mine at any rate) reflexively grabs the focus ring when intending to zoom.  A real PITA, and if the new 100-400 has a similar design, it would be unfortunate.

I haven't, but since that lens is very short (physically), it's probably not as bad as it would be on a longer lens.  I agree that on a 100-400, such a design decision would likely be pretty nasty.

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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS II [CR1]
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2014, 09:01:21 PM »
Canon could sell a million of these if they don't hold back and just give us sports/wildlife people a great lens at a decent price.

1998 -2014, after 16 years you would think that this newer version would be much improved on what was already a decent lens.

I have to wonder if they're trying to protect the Big Whites. The 400f5.6 prime has arguably superior IQ to some of the old big whites, and upgrading something like that might look a little unbalanced.
Maybe they wanted to wait until they had all the version II supertelephoto lenses out before releasing a budget option that performs on a similar level.

i'm hoping they realize that the bottom line is that some people, whether it be pro or rich amateur, are going to go for the very best and spend their money for the "high end stuff" no matter what...even if it's only fractionally better than a new and improved 100-400.  (and/or they'll pay for the f4 or 2.8)   this is what I'm hoping for here....a awesome lens for a few grand, not $10,000
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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS II [CR1]
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2014, 09:15:01 PM »
Canon could sell a million of these if they don't hold back and just give us sports/wildlife people a great lens at a decent price.

1998 -2014, after 16 years you would think that this newer version would be much improved on what was already a decent lens.

I have to wonder if they're trying to protect the Big Whites. The 400f5.6 prime has arguably superior IQ to some of the old big whites, and upgrading something like that might look a little unbalanced.
Maybe they wanted to wait until they had all the version II supertelephoto lenses out before releasing a budget option that performs on a similar level.

I doubt it. As far as I understand, one who buys a 400/2.8, needs it at f/2.8. Having an equally (or even better- though I strongly doubt that) performing lens at f/5.6 wouldn't work for them- or else they wouldn't shell out those $$$s.
Also, I heard that the v1 great whites are as good as the V2, except for TC usage with the Mk IIIs.
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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS II [CR1]
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2014, 09:15:01 PM »

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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS II [CR1]
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2014, 09:19:09 PM »
I wish it would be 200-500, and lighter

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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS II [CR1]
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2014, 09:47:25 PM »
It's weird. I've wanted this lens badly for years but this, if true, is coming at a time when things have changed to the point I may not get it. The 70-200 II with 2x tc has replaced my currant 100-400L in my travel kit.   That leaves local birding, and I have to wonder if the Tamron 150-600 may be better suited. To my needs plus I am saving up for a big white. We'll see. I've wanted this lens for so long I'll definitely look at it. But it is no longer a no brainer. 

Oh, and I like the push-pull.

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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS II [CR1]
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2014, 10:26:48 PM »
The lens needs to have a close mfd for small birds, and be short enough to carry easily in a bag.  Lighter would be fine as well.


I'd likely hold off on ordering one until the price drop though, I find mine to be a lens that does not get a huge amount of use, and its pretty good for the price.

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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS II [CR1]
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2014, 11:30:28 PM »
Interested to see how the AF and image quality stacks up against the Tamron 150-600mm.

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« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2014, 11:43:29 PM »
Canon should make it push pull and rotate to zoom.  And lighter, and cheaper, and stronger, and more macho looking, and maybe scented to smell like roses on a summer morning right after the rain.

Oh and if it takes good pictures, sure that be cool too I guess.

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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS II [CR1]
« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2014, 12:30:36 AM »
All Canon has to do is make this new 100-400 take sharper pics with improved coatings, better IS, faster focussing and zoom. They will sell a ton of these as the old 100-400 sells well as is. My 100-400 suits me just fine and is on my 7D  when I leave the house and I know BIF pics are on the menu.  ;D
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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS II [CR1]
« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2014, 12:48:20 AM »
Additionally, I think it would be great if the new 100-400L played nice with the 2x III and the 1.4x III Teleconverters...  ::)

I wouldn't be in a hurry to make the jump though.  I'm a fan of the push pull, especially as birds come flying toward me, it works well and wasn't hard to get used too. 

Also, my copy is super sharp, I use it more than my 70-200 f2.8L II, ever since getting it back from Canon.  They put a whole new IS system in it, recalibrated it and it's been amazing ever since.  Now the 70-200 II spends more time in the bag!  I'd be worried I wouldn't get that same result from the new one.  But who knows, I'm always a sucker for new glass!  ::)
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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS II [CR1]
« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2014, 01:37:16 AM »
I like mine but already warned my wife that I'll be replacing it with this one unless it's horribly expensive. It pretty much lives on my camera for kids sports. I don't mind the push-pull either. The only problem if it isn't will be adjusting back to shooting the rotating zoom for action.

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