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Maui5150

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Re: Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT II Coming Soon [CR2]
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2016, 06:52:35 AM »
Canon should also update their ST-E3 RT and just add AF assist which would be very useful for field use. Also I was hoping we would see update to 320ex with RT support(slave mode only) before seeing update to 600ex-RT which has been selling quite well.

I have the YN remote as well as the ST, got it just for the AF assist and second curtain, only problem is the AF assist on the YN is so powerful it vapourises the subject matter into a small pile of dust ;)

You say that like it is a bad thing.  Best way to deal with PITA clients.

Ooopps.... There goes another one.  I don't know what keeps on happening.  Odd...

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Re: Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT II Coming Soon [CR2]
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2016, 06:52:35 AM »

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Re: Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT II Coming Soon [CR2]
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2016, 06:53:51 AM »
well, I would prefer a upgrade to Canon wireless ETTL protocol + firmware update for my existing 600EX-RTs and ST-E3 to finally allow
1. second curtain sync (in wireless operation)
2. remote control for manual zoom-reflector setting

But ... it is Canon, so it will only happen for Mk. IV  version of 600EX - at the earliest.   :P

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Re: Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT II Coming Soon [CR2]
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2016, 06:55:39 AM »
If I were to guess... Full configuration and adjustment of slave units remotely. 

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Re: Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT II Coming Soon [CR2]
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2016, 07:32:21 AM »
If my Phottix Mitros+ flashes could do 2nd curtain sync off camera 3 years ago, it would be a serious design flaw somewhere if Canon couldn't do it today.
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Re: Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT II Coming Soon [CR2]
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2016, 07:35:28 AM »
If my Phottix Mitros+ flashes could do 2nd curtain sync off camera 3 years ago, it would be a serious design flaw somewhere if Canon couldn't do it today.

It IS a serious shortcoming. Canon Speedlite/EOS camera system does not support 2nd curtain sync in wireless mode. Reason is antiquated Canon *wireless ETTL* flash protocol, that has never been updated in 15+ years.  ::)

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Re: Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT II Coming Soon [CR2]
« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2016, 07:37:31 AM »
If I were to guess... Full configuration and adjustment of slave units remotely.

What can't be configured and adjusted remotely now?  Aside from head zoom, which aside from being part of AvTvM's 'perfect MILC for HIM' or because it's there like Mount Everest, I honestly can't see why it would be useful.

Wild guess – switch to Bluetooth?  Range is decent for small data packets, and perhaps country-specific regulations are lighter (no need for two models). 
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Re: Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT II Coming Soon [CR2]
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2016, 07:41:20 AM »
Maybe they have redesigned the exterior to feature a red ring on the head.  No added functionality, but it could command a 200% premium as a 600EX RT L.  ;)

If you can't compete with full featured Chinese flashes on price, then just stupify customers with a blindingly high price and experience suggests they will dig into their wallets.
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Re: Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT II Coming Soon [CR2]
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2016, 07:41:20 AM »

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Re: Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT II Coming Soon [CR2]
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2016, 07:50:40 AM »
Huh. I agree with all: very strange.
Perhaps the "recall" regarding limited number of units syncing is part of the justification for a short life-cycle?
What are we missing from current model beyond off camera 2nd camera sync? ...nothing unless there is a new TTL or something,-which would be in 1DX2, right?! ...dare I suggest, better video support with LED hotlight uselessness?  :-\
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Re: Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT II Coming Soon [CR2]
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2016, 08:13:53 AM »
I bought the Phottix Laso trigger & receivers and carried on using my EX 580 II & 2x EX 430 II units as wireless flash guns and they work perfectly fine and can be all controlled from the Phottix Laso trigger and from the 5DS. For the amount I use off camera / on camera flash it certainly was not worth buying three new flash guns at Canon prices.
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Re: Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT II Coming Soon [CR2]
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2016, 08:50:46 AM »
Wasn't there some rumor about a new version of ETTL metering being in the works some time ago? I think it was supposed to be already implemented in recent bodies (perhaps disabled/hidden until a firmware update) but the flash still needed some work. This might be it.

Regarding 2nd curtain sync, Canon has not even managed to do that properly without wireless (http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=29388.0). Wanting that with RT is asking for the impossible! ::)

Other than that I think the new flash will feature the user interface of the 430EX-III RT.

And perhaps it will also have a dedicated food mode (whatever that does) to be a perfect match for the 1300D. ;)
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Re: Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT II Coming Soon [CR2]
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2016, 08:52:52 AM »
Canon should also update their ST-E3 RT and just add AF assist which would be very useful for field use.

+1

When I replaced my 3 580EX-II's and 420EX, I would have purchased 3 600EX-RT's and an ST-E3 RT, but decided to go with 4 600's instead, due to the ST-E3's lack of AF assist.

I have no doubt Canon has some good reasons (at least to them) for updating the 600's, but for me, they're practically perfect. I got so fed up trying to get line-of-sight for optical triggering with the pre-RT models in many applications. And with the new menu system in the 600's, I never have to refer to a manual. Back when I was using the 580's, if I was doing anything more complicated than single, on-camera flash, and I didn't have a manual handy during setup, I was screwed.
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Re: Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT II Coming Soon [CR2]
« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2016, 08:56:40 AM »
I'm wondering what new tech advancements could be driving the need to update?

If I had a choice which flash to update, I'd go with the MT-24...to go with a new MP-E65 :P

I'd suggest maybe brighter - LED based and with TTL 3?
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Re: Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT II Coming Soon [CR2]
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2016, 09:03:12 AM »
That's just great! Now my 7 Speedlights are useless and obsolete. Probably the transmitter too!

Sony.

If they worked so far why would they become useless and obsolete? Out of depression or what...

Because they will. They'll now suck. I feel completely ripped off. I bought those flashes all within the last four years and now Canon goes and does this quick lifecycle thing. I would expect Canon to at least wait 8 years between updates.

Ebay... here I come. Stupid Canon.

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Re: Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT II Coming Soon [CR2]
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2016, 09:03:12 AM »

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Re: Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT II Coming Soon [CR2]
« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2016, 09:16:53 AM »
As a reasonably heavy 600EX user I'd like a bigger screen to cover all five Groups without scrolling (like a couple of other companies) I'd like five group buttons (like other companies) and I'd like one or two button presses for the most used functions (like other companies).

Although the interface is considerably 'better' than the earlier EX's there are many other companies out there with very similar design layouts that are much simpler and faster to use, having to use a button, then a dial, then a button then the dial again to adjust the power in one Group is clumsy in the extreme.

Oh, and I actually had an application where I could have used remote zoom the other day, so that would be nice.
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Re: Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT II Coming Soon [CR2]
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2016, 09:32:35 AM »
That's just great! Now my 7 Speedlights are useless and obsolete. Probably the transmitter too!

Sony.

If they worked so far why would they become useless and obsolete? Out of depression or what...

Because they will. They'll now suck. I feel completely ripped off. I bought those flashes all within the last four years and now Canon goes and does this quick lifecycle thing. I would expect Canon to at least wait 8 years between updates.

Ebay... here I come. Stupid Canon.

Sony.

They just stopped working... that's terrible.
And the 5D sissies complain that the 5D mkIII is already 4 years old...
Stupid Canon indeed...
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Re: Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT II Coming Soon [CR2]
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2016, 09:32:35 AM »