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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #90 on: February 06, 2012, 01:51:13 PM »
Somebody says this is a fake.

I looked at the picture in PS and if this is a fake, then it is a very very good one.

The only thing that looks strange for me is the font family used for this lens (look at 24-70mm inscription). It seems to be a new one and not the same like for Canon 24-105, 24 f1,4 and of course 24-70.
Maybe it is nothing ...

True the font is different. Also, neither my 24-70 nor the 70-200mm f2.8 IS II have "Ultrasonic" written below the focal range by the distance window...

Oh, scratch that, the 8-15mm has it. Could be a new thing.
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #90 on: February 06, 2012, 01:51:13 PM »

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #91 on: February 06, 2012, 01:57:18 PM »
this looks a lot like the 16-35 II, which is also a 82mm front.
Looks similar but definitly is not. The 16-35 does not extend when zooming and it does not have that gap visible in the picture where the inner barrel comes out...

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #92 on: February 06, 2012, 02:01:33 PM »
To me what seems off about it is that it looks cheap and tacky! No L lens does!

Also why would Canon take a photo of a prototype lens?
« Last Edit: February 06, 2012, 02:05:55 PM by photogaz »

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #93 on: February 06, 2012, 02:05:43 PM »
Something about this lens is odd... It just doesn't look right for some reason. I can't exactly put my finger on it but something seems off.

Maybe it's the lack of writing around the red ring. Or, does it look too small to anyone else? (despite the 82mm filter threads (which is also really odd))

I thought something looked wrong too.  The font used for the labeling (24-70 Ultrasonic) is the same as a traditional EF lens, rather than L lenses.  Also missing is the red lettering indicating mm near the focus/distance window.

If you hold your hand over the red ring, this lens looks more like a standard EF than an L.


The red numbering on the scale is for IR.  This is not such an issue with digital as it was with film (when you just put in a new roll of film versus now having to send the entire camera out to have the IR block filter removed).  So Im not that surprised to see the lack of IR focal indicators on any new lens.
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #94 on: February 06, 2012, 02:11:22 PM »
I thought something looked wrong too.  The font used for the labeling (24-70 Ultrasonic) is the same as a traditional EF lens, rather than L lenses.  Also missing is the red lettering indicating mm near the focus/distance window.

If you hold your hand over the red ring, this lens looks more like a standard EF than an L.

Maybe Canon changed it's default font, 'cause EF 8-15/fL fisheye also uses different one.

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #95 on: February 06, 2012, 02:16:18 PM »
The red numbering on the scale is for IR.  This is not such an issue with digital as it was with film (when you just put in a new roll of film versus now having to send the entire camera out to have the IR block filter removed).  So Im not that surprised to see the lack of IR focal indicators on any new lens.

But...the two newest zoom lenses - EF 8-15mm f/4L Fisheye and EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6L IS - both have IR focusing marks on the distance windows.
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #96 on: February 06, 2012, 02:17:06 PM »
Are any of you guys (and girls) actually photographers? Do any of you use photoshop? That is a rubbish PS image there are so many reasons why the is fake it is comical.
Your observations may be correct, but you've jumped straight to the conclusion that errors in the image = a fake picture.

Let's say the lens is real, a prototype; whatever. Don't you think Canon alter their product shots in photoshop? Are they not capable of post-production errors? I'm not trying to call you out here or to question your expertise, but perhaps turn your critical eye to official Canon product photos from the past, I'd be curious to know if there's any bad masking etc. in those.

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #96 on: February 06, 2012, 02:17:06 PM »

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #97 on: February 06, 2012, 02:17:12 PM »
I believe these are digital renderings. If you open these images in Photoshop and click on the "Paths" Pallet, you can see some leftover masks. There is one on the 24-70 f2.8II image, and 2 on the 24mm f2.8IS image.
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #98 on: February 06, 2012, 02:21:07 PM »
Top switch looks exactly the same as the one on 8-15/4L fisheye - focal lenght limiter.

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #99 on: February 06, 2012, 02:24:39 PM »
I believe these are digital renderings. If you open these images in Photoshop and click on the "Paths" Pallet, you can see some leftover masks. There is one on the 24-70 f2.8II image, and 2 on the 24mm f2.8IS image.

Well, this is a strong argument. The path schould not be there, unless the canon photoshoped the image itself :)
Hmm, this will be interesting.

« Last Edit: February 06, 2012, 02:28:05 PM by marius »

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #100 on: February 06, 2012, 02:25:32 PM »
Will people feel better if they remember a CR2 couple weeks ago suggested that "...There has been an IS version that was bigger and a lot heavier, as well as an internal  zoom model, both of which were deemed too big and/or heavy..."?

Will people consider the possibility that Canon's design choice is different to Tamron's, and the possibility that this Mark II is primarily an optical upgrade (after all, the current version is already 10 years old) more than anything else (like 70-200 f/2.8 IS II to its original version)?

And as far as the print of labels goes, would it look weird just because it's still a prototype (...the suspected final prototype is in the hands of the select few for testing...)?
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #101 on: February 06, 2012, 02:26:28 PM »
Well, this is a strong argument. The path schould not be there.
Hmm, this will me interesting.

This could be a residue of som Photoshop retouching - adding more saturation to the front lens or so.

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #102 on: February 06, 2012, 02:35:12 PM »
OMG - I just checked the EXIF.  This image was shot at ISO 12800 on a 36 MP Nikon D800!!!









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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #102 on: February 06, 2012, 02:35:12 PM »

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #103 on: February 06, 2012, 02:36:21 PM »
OMG - I just checked the EXIF.  This image was shot at ISO 12800 on a 36 MP Nikon D800!!!





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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #104 on: February 06, 2012, 02:37:37 PM »
For what its worth - here are the results of image analysis in www.pskiller.com
I much prefer errorlevelanalysis.com for judging if images are composite, but it is down at the moment

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #104 on: February 06, 2012, 02:37:37 PM »