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johnf3f

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Re: A very good idea???
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2017, 04:42:37 PM »
Reading this thread I had a brilliant idea!

What if you took a mirror less camera gave it a more robust weather sealed body. Made the body larger so you could have decent higher voltage batteries.  Eliminate the limitations of EVF viewfinders by putting an optical one on it with TTL viewing - oh dear that is a DSLR!

Perhaps I am missing something?

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Re: A very good idea???
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Re: A very good idea???
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2017, 06:04:38 PM »
Maybe the biggest challenge for Canon and Nikon in the implementation of mirrorless cameras is their lens lineup. Sure they don't want to spoil their EF customers and the customers don't want to give up their lenses.
On the other hand the, advantages of mirrorless will become more and more obvious.
Live histogram in the EVF, really(!) silent shutter (which would have been so useful to me in several occasions), higher fps (because no flapping mirror)  ...
At some time also dslr users would like to have those features. So combining the two camera types is a logical step. At least for me.

Why would anyone think Canon going mirrorless means EF lenses would have to be given up? Just because they don't work on current mirrorless without adaptors doesn't mean a Canon mirrorless would be designed in such a way that EF lenses become useless or even need an adaptor.
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Re: A very good idea???
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2017, 01:34:24 PM »
Reading this thread I had a brilliant idea!

What if you took a mirror less camera gave it a more robust weather sealed body. Made the body larger so you could have decent higher voltage batteries.  Eliminate the limitations of EVF viewfinders by putting an optical one on it with TTL viewing - oh dear that is a DSLR!

Perhaps I am missing something?

LOL, good point.  I love my M5, its a terrific little camera, but the ergonomics of shooting with a DSLR are just so much better due to its larger size (fits my hands), convenient controls and OVF that is just better than the current generation of EVF's.
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Re: A very good idea???
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2017, 05:30:23 PM »
Reading this thread I had a brilliant idea!

What if you took a mirror less camera gave it a more robust weather sealed body. Made the body larger so you could have decent higher voltage batteries.  Eliminate the limitations of EVF viewfinders by putting an optical one on it with TTL viewing - oh dear that is a DSLR!

Perhaps I am missing something?

LOL, good point.  I love my M5, its a terrific little camera, but the ergonomics of shooting with a DSLR are just so much better due to its larger size (fits my hands), convenient controls and OVF that is just better than the current generation of EVF's.

That was my thinking!
Mirrorless cameras give up nothing in IQ but are lacking in other departments. so it is horses for courses.

For me a mirrorless camera is useful for one or two weeks of the year, whilst a DSLR is useful for all of the year - though not the ideal choice for holidays!

Mirrorless will get better and more useful but they will have to get decent batteries and much better viewfinders before the can compete. The Sony A9 looks interesting here but no lenses that are of any real use for me!

There is a way to go - but they might get there?
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Re: A very good idea???
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2017, 05:54:25 PM »
Some of the big issues, EVFs are not up to pro standards, AF speed and tracking are not up to pro standards, battery life of mirrorless cameras is poor.

All of these things are being improved, but many do not want EVF, no matter what.

To me, it seems more likely that a hybrid camera will come out with OVF which can have a EVF image overlaid when the camera is in mirrorless  or live view mode  The ability to do either may make the camera appeal to more, and allow switching to mirror and phase detect AF when high performance is needed..

The US camera culture favors large camera bodies, many buyers purchase a DSLR over mirrorless because the large DSLR looks more professional to them.  That's a well established fact.  Things can change though, but, for now, mirrorless cameras are regarded as over priced point and shoot cameras.

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Re: A very good idea???
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2017, 09:31:20 PM »
The US camera culture favors large camera bodies, many buyers purchase a DSLR over mirrorless because the large DSLR looks more professional to them.  That's a well established fact.  Things can change though, but, for now, mirrorless cameras are regarded as over priced point and shoot cameras.

Which, it seems to me, is exactly why we will have the choice of both mirrorless and DSLRs for quite a while to come - and why some mirrorless cameras will probably keep the basic form factor and flange distance of the current DSLRs.

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Re: A very good idea???
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2017, 09:31:20 PM »