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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #45 on: August 11, 2017, 10:35:41 AM »
I took issue with my colleagues substandard profile pictures to the degree I offered free headshots during lunch time (limit of max 20 people). Four bags full of photographic equipment. Some people obviously thought I was crazy, but I've now got another dozen colleagues with quite acceptable profile pictures.

Ha...I did just the same!  Set up in a conference room at work (pictured below).  I subsequently did the same thing for colleagues in Switzerland, which was a challenge since I had to pack everything I'd need.  I ended up taking 4 speedlites, a small softbox (Lastolite Ezybox Speedlite), Justin clamps, a small 5x7' backdrop and a few spring clamps, and using free-standing dry erase boards as stands for the lights and backdrop.

As a nod in the general direction of this topic, I did have two TS-E lenses on the trip (although I didn't use them for the photoshoot).  ;)
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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #45 on: August 11, 2017, 10:35:41 AM »

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2018, 11:12:26 PM »
dafrank,

What is wrong with shooting head and shoulders portraits with 135mm lens?
Is the issue you are referring to is evident in the photo attached? :o

I am debating with myself if the new ts-e 90mm will be to long for my purpose, so I am looking a bit into "compressed perspective" generally.

Head and shoulders in this portrait is totally fine. But when when one looks at the hands I would say they problem of compressed perspective of the 135mm focal length hits in. I suppose its subjective but to me the hand and its fingers closest to the lens looks very small, and the other hand almost looks like a foot compared to the front hand. To me this looks like the result of the diagonal position of the crossed arms in the compressed perspective plane of the 135mm in the otherwise perfect portrait.

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2018, 11:27:26 PM »
dafrank,

What is wrong with shooting head and shoulders portraits with 135mm lens?
Is the issue you are referring to is evident in the photo attached? :o

I am debating with myself if the new ts-e 90mm will be to long for my purpose, so I am looking a bit into "compressed perspective" generally.

Head and shoulders in this portrait is totally fine. But when when one looks at the hands I would say they problem of compressed perspective of the 135mm focal length hits in. I suppose its subjective but to me the hand and its fingers closest to the lens looks very small, and the other hand almost looks like a foot compared to the front hand. To me this looks like the result of the diagonal position of the crossed arms in the compressed perspective plane of the 135mm in the otherwise perfect portrait.

best Martin

That's bad posing and nothing to do with the difference between the shot taken with a 90mm vs 135mm.
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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #48 on: January 13, 2018, 11:36:46 PM »


That's bad posing and nothing to do with the difference between the shot taken with a 90mm vs 135mm.
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I think it is partly related to focal length, taken with a 20mm you could have made the front hand huge :)
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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #49 on: January 14, 2018, 12:07:25 AM »


That's bad posing and nothing to do with the difference between the shot taken with a 90mm vs 135mm.

I think it is partly related to focal length, taken with a 20mm you could have made the front hand huge :)
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I don't, the difference in perspective between a 90mm and 135mm when shot for the same framing isn't going to come close to overcoming the poor posing. Hands, especially for men, are very difficult to pose naturally and yet when done well can tell every bit as much of a story as the face.
Too often we lose sight of the fact that photography is about capturing light, if we have the ability to take control of that light then we grow exponentially as photographers. More often than not the image is not about lens speed, sensor size, DR, MP's or AF, it is about the light.

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #50 on: January 14, 2018, 12:22:29 AM »

I don't, the difference in perspective between a 90mm and 135mm when shot for the same framing isn't going to come close to overcoming the poor posing. Hands, especially for men, are very difficult to pose naturally and yet when done well can tell every bit as much of a story as the face.

You might be right, I will give it a try taking a few shots of diagonal crossed arms and hands in 90mm and 135mm. Though I am not looking at the story of the pose, just the "compression" of perspective.

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #51 on: January 14, 2018, 01:05:19 AM »
It looks like most of those were shot from about the same distance, so there is not so much difference of perspective, which changes mostly with subject distance, not focal length. If you take the same shot from the same place with a wide angle lens and with a telephoto and then crop the former to fit, you will get virtually the same perspective, within the limits of the lenses' distortion and such.

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #51 on: January 14, 2018, 01:05:19 AM »

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #52 on: January 14, 2018, 01:17:44 AM »
It looks like most of those were shot from about the same distance, so there is not so much difference of perspective, which changes mostly with subject distance, not focal length. If you take the same shot from the same place with a wide angle lens and with a telephoto and then crop the former to fit, you will get virtually the same perspective, within the limits of the lenses' distortion and such.

I suppose the point in this is if you want to frame the subject identically with different focal lengths you will have to move the camera (and thereby changing the perspective). Personally I see a lot of difference in "compression of perspective" here, sure not dramatic in-between 50mm and 150mm (but its there) and I suppose it would have been more if the portrait had been diagonal in pose.

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #53 on: January 14, 2018, 02:08:58 AM »
Here perhaps a more interesting diagonal subject than hands. The compression of perspective, and to what degree it is an asset for a motif, is of course transitional. And I totally get that for products such as cars a 135mm and above might make sense (as dafrank finely described earlier in this thread). At 200mm here i suppose it is obviously not okay what happens with the compression. Whether or not it is okay at 135mm I suppose is a matter of taste :)
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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #54 on: January 14, 2018, 08:04:21 AM »
You are showing examples from 20mm-200mm and 24mm-200mm we all know that. My point was between the 100mm and 135mm examples the differences are barely discernible and on any single shot it is impossible to tell one from another.
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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #55 on: January 24, 2018, 08:55:07 PM »
Is there any information on when the new 90mm ts-e lens will be available?

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #56 on: January 27, 2018, 01:43:16 PM »
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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #56 on: January 27, 2018, 01:43:16 PM »