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Re: DXO: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Sensor Review: Great Color and ISO Performance
« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2017, 06:02:32 AM »
As ive said many times, it beats the 5DMKIII in every IQ metric and is £500 cheaper and £1500 cheaper than a 5DMKIV.
5DMKIV body on e-bay cost less than 3k USD. Please show me offer for 6dmii for £1500 cheaper than a 5DMKIV.
I can believe you that 6dmii is not poor camera but than it is expensive camera for 2k USD.

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Re: DXO: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Sensor Review: Great Color and ISO Performance
« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2017, 06:02:32 AM »

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Re: DXO: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Sensor Review: Great Color and ISO Performance
« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2017, 06:22:09 AM »
I paid US$2,650.00 for a brand new 5D IV body just a couple of week ago. all taxes and free delivery inclusive.


5DMKIV body on e-bay cost less than 3k USD.

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Re: DXO: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Sensor Review: Great Color and ISO Performance
« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2017, 06:25:17 AM »
Hi Jack,

It is and by 1/3 of a stop.

but... 80D image is upscaled and 6D II image is not. when upscaled, brightness certainly is changed and is no longer representative of  the original unmodified image. we should compare original images at it's native resolution instead.



Not sure if it's too significant but I agree it's darker.  I'm guessing maybe 1/3 stop.

Jack

Does resizing images typically change the brightness? :o
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Re: DXO: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Sensor Review: Great Color and ISO Performance
« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2017, 06:25:26 AM »
Whoever says DR is not a big deal never converted a raw file. Guys, go ahead and try it. It'll be like enlightenment! Literally.

I have shot raw exclusively for over five years and I say the DR differences between the 6D2 and the best competitors is not a big deal the vast majority of real world circumstances.

PS: I'm not a troll.

And yet you say "And there is no 4K while the new iPhones shoots 4K at 60fps. $75 Chinese action cams shoot 4K video!!! Seriously Canon! WTF!?" so you're either lying about being a troll or utterly clueless about video.
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Re: DXO: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Sensor Review: Great Color and ISO Performance
« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2017, 07:06:14 AM »
As ive said many times, it beats the 5DMKIII in every IQ metric and is £500 cheaper and £1500 cheaper than a 5DMKIV.
5DMKIV body on e-bay cost less than 3k USD. Please show me offer for 6dmii for £1500 cheaper than a 5DMKIV.
I can believe you that 6dmii is not poor camera but than it is expensive camera for 2k USD.

Your talking 2 different currencies bud. Im talking £

Just been discounted but was £3599
https://www.jessops.com/p/canon/eos-5d-mark-iv-digital-slr-body-100506

In the UK the 6DMKII is £2000 so there you go.

https://www.jessops.com/p/canon/eos-6d-mark-ii-dslr-body-125988

I bought my 6DMKII grey market the week it was released for £1468. Grey market the 5DMKIV is still £2459. Still dont think the 5DMKIV is worth £1000 more grey market.

When it gets to £2-2250 will probably pull the trigger. Would say it will be in that range by Christmas. 5DMKIV an incredible camera but the 6DMKII is literally 90% for nearly 50% less. Ive had no issues what so ever so far.

Check out my thread if your interested.

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=33212.0
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Re: DXO: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Sensor Review: Great Color and ISO Performance
« Reply #35 on: September 20, 2017, 07:47:09 AM »
depends on the RAW editor of your choice and type of interpolation selected. sharpness and contrast are affected as well.


Does resizing images typically change the brightness? :o

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Re: DXO: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Sensor Review: Great Color and ISO Performance
« Reply #36 on: September 20, 2017, 07:56:39 AM »
https://www.e-infin.com/uk/item/3071/canon_eos_5d_mark_iv_dslr_camera_(body_only)

As you wish, GBP £2,149.00, all taxes inclusive, free delivery, 14 days Money Back Guarantee, 12 Month Warranty .How is that for Christmas in September? :)

...Grey market the 5DMKIV is still £2459. Still dont think the 5DMKIV is worth £1000 more grey market.

When it gets to £2-2250 will probably pull the trigger. Would say it will be in that range by Christmas.

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Re: DXO: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Sensor Review: Great Color and ISO Performance
« Reply #36 on: September 20, 2017, 07:56:39 AM »

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Re: DXO: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Sensor Review: Great Color and ISO Performance
« Reply #37 on: September 20, 2017, 08:08:18 AM »
https://www.e-infin.com/uk/item/3071/canon_eos_5d_mark_iv_dslr_camera_(body_only)

As you wish, GBP £2,149.00, all taxes inclusive, free delivery, 14 days Money Back Guarantee, 12 Month Warranty .How is that for Christmas in September? :)

...Grey market the 5DMKIV is still £2459. Still dont think the 5DMKIV is worth £1000 more grey market.

When it gets to £2-2250 will probably pull the trigger. Would say it will be in that range by Christmas.

That's pretty good. £300 less than any other grey market distributor. Does make you wonder why.

Reviews of the site look good tho.
6D MKII, 5D MKIII STOLEN, 7D MKII 70D 17-55mm F2.8 16-35mm F2.8 II L 24-70mm F2.8 L 24-105mm F4 L 70-200mm F2.8 II L 100-400mm F4.5-5.6 II L 2x II 1.4X III 580EX

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Re: DXO: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Sensor Review: Great Color and ISO Performance
« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2017, 08:27:30 AM »

I bought from these guys few weeks ago. They also sell on eBay at about 5% more.
The trick is to wait until eBay goes on 10% off everything promo and it does nearly every month these days.
with 10% eBay discount, the price that I paid for my 5D IV was 5% less than what is advertised on their website. so that would be another £100 off for you.

I ended up paying these guys A$3300.00. that's £1,980.00

Camera was courier delivered.

I was able to register the camera on Canon Australia website. ;)



That's pretty good. £300 less than any other grey market distributor. Does make you wonder why.

Reviews of the site look good tho.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2017, 08:29:32 AM by SecureGSM »

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Re: DXO: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Sensor Review: Great Color and ISO Performance
« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2017, 08:33:32 AM »

With that in mind, the only part of the 6D2's measurements which is at all surprising is how low the true sensitivity is. ISO 100 is actually 63 and ISO 200 is actually 127. That's a record-low for Canon, and I believe a record-low for any SLR. That means that using like-for-like settings, the 6D2 underexposes by nearly two thirds of a stop. [Is this a fact? Can you prove it?]
Well, I think he refers to these DXOmark measurements:
https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Canon/EOS-80D---Measurements
and
https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Canon/EOS-6D-Mark-II---Measurements

The first "tab" is ISO Sensitivity. However, at ISO 100 both 80D and 6dii are measured as ISO 64.

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Re: DXO: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Sensor Review: Great Color and ISO Performance
« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2017, 09:29:04 AM »
https://www.e-infin.com/uk/item/3071/canon_eos_5d_mark_iv_dslr_camera_(body_only)

As you wish, GBP £2,149.00, all taxes inclusive, free delivery, 14 days Money Back Guarantee, 12 Month Warranty .How is that for Christmas in September? :)

...Grey market the 5DMKIV is still £2459. Still dont think the 5DMKIV is worth £1000 more grey market.

When it gets to £2-2250 will probably pull the trigger. Would say it will be in that range by Christmas.

Damn there's some real good prices on that site, never even heard of it before, thanks for the link!
How's your experience with them?

Has anyone bought regularly from them?



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Re: DXO: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Sensor Review: Great Color and ISO Performance
« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2017, 09:55:14 AM »
No worries, Sir! . Experience wise: so far so good.  I paid through PayPal in order to protect transaction and received camera just 5 days later. Once received, I jumped on Canon Australia website and registered the product.


 

Damn there's some real good prices on that site, never even heard of it before, thanks for the link!
How's your experience with them?

Has anyone bought regularly from them?
« Last Edit: September 20, 2017, 09:58:15 AM by SecureGSM »

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Re: DXO: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Sensor Review: Great Color and ISO Performance
« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2017, 10:47:52 AM »
DR is a BIG DEAL. It is a big deal because our eyes can see 20 stops of DR!!!

No.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_eye
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The retina has a static contrast ratio of around 100:1 (about 6.5 f-stops).

I have another source that says 10 stops, but photo enthusiasts have the tendancy to vaslty exaggerate their own capabilities simply as a form of post purchase rationalization.

When I look at test images across multiple sensors I still like the low ISO images from the 5D2 more than almost anything else, that may very well be the case because it has less DR. "Black" shadows, deep and rich without unnecessary confusion.
This idea of putting detail in every pixel of every photo didn't even exist when I joined this forum less than 6 years ago, it's simply a reaction to the different capabilities being brought about in the brand wars.

Of course having more DR isn't stricly "bad", making an evening exposure look like daylight is great fun, but hardly necessary.

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Re: DXO: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Sensor Review: Great Color and ISO Performance
« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2017, 10:47:52 AM »

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Re: DXO: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Sensor Review: Great Color and ISO Performance
« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2017, 11:02:35 AM »

Some of the responses to news of this data coming out has been entertaining.

This animated GIF is worth a gander.  Subtle.

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Re: DXO: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Sensor Review: Great Color and ISO Performance
« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2017, 11:10:03 AM »
And my big white gives me even more! :D  Oh, DR, the sacred cow.  How did it get such status?

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Re: DXO: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Sensor Review: Great Color and ISO Performance
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