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Re: Is the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Still Being Announced This Month?
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2018, 11:55:53 AM »

BTW ... I have the 70-200 f/2.8L IS II and I would still consider the new f/4 IS II. There are a lot of times that the f/2.8 stays home because it's just too heavy. There's a place for both in my kit: The f/2.8 when it just has to be so, and the f/4 when low weight is a priority.

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Re: Is the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Still Being Announced This Month?
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2018, 11:55:53 AM »

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Re: Is the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Still Being Announced This Month?
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2018, 12:30:22 PM »
Sort of a remark and sort of a question re:f/4 vs. f/2.8 models:

For my purposes, it seems that the IS and improved high-ISO performance of modern lenses and bodies makes that extra stop in speed much less often needed, so hardly worth the extra cost and lugging around the extra weight of the faster lens.

Is that a reasonable perspective and rational tradeoff?

That's not to say I begrudge anyone's preferring the f/2.8 for their purposes, such as need for the extra stop or blurrier backgrounds. It's just those are less often major considerations for me than apparently they are for others.

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Re: Is the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Still Being Announced This Month?
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2018, 12:34:39 PM »
It also surprises me that Canon would upgrade this superb lens before upgrading the EF 400mm f/5.6L to an IS version, and the EF 300mm f/4L IS is at least a decade overdue for an optics and IS update.

This, exactly!  I will not buy this 70-200, but I would buy either or both 300L and 400L.

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Re: Is the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Still Being Announced This Month?
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2018, 12:36:01 PM »
It also surprises me that Canon would upgrade this superb lens before upgrading the EF 400mm f/5.6L to an IS version, and the EF 300mm f/4L IS is at least a decade overdue for an optics and IS update.

This, exactly!  I will not buy this 70-200, but I would buy either or both 300L and 400L.

I totally get your frustration but we who want those two lenses updated are in the minority and the 70-200 crowd is much more vast.
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Re: Is the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Still Being Announced This Month?
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2018, 01:49:41 PM »
I totally get your frustration but we who want those two lenses updated are in the minority and the 70-200 crowd is much more vast.

I have doubt that you are correct and it makes good business sense for Canon to proceed accordingly.  What I don't get is why no 50mm 1.4 has been offered.  That I would consider, too.

Sorry to go off-topic.

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Re: Is the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Still Being Announced This Month?
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2018, 02:44:43 PM »
I totally get your frustration but we who want those two lenses updated are in the minority and the 70-200 crowd is much more vast.

I have doubt that you are correct and it makes good business sense for Canon to proceed accordingly.  What I don't get is why no 50mm 1.4 has been offered.  That I would consider, too.

Sorry to go off-topic.

I'm with you, some of these releases and lack of refreshes certainly are head scratchers.
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Re: Is the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Still Being Announced This Month?
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2018, 07:20:31 PM »
Was weighing the 100-400 vs. 400 5.6.
The answer might be this + a 400 5.6. 
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Re: Is the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Still Being Announced This Month?
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2018, 07:20:31 PM »

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Re: Is the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Still Being Announced This Month?
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2018, 10:36:19 PM »
My 70-200 f4 (bought fall 2010) is not a great copy. It's merely OK on crop and pretty good on my 6D, but not amazing. So, I'm excited to see this new version - if it has improved sharpness.

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Re: Is the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Still Being Announced This Month?
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2018, 10:08:33 AM »
canon keep releasing EF lenses. kinda hints their upcoming ML cameras can handle EF lenses without hassle
I hope so as but as the old saying goes "time will tell".
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Re: Is the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Still Being Announced This Month?
« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2018, 12:06:05 PM »
I totally get your frustration but we who want those two lenses updated are in the minority and the 70-200 crowd is much more vast.

I have doubt that you are correct and it makes good business sense for Canon to proceed accordingly.  What I don't get is why no 50mm 1.4 has been offered.  That I would consider, too.

Sorry to go off-topic.

I just wonder if Canon is struggling in determining where to position the 50 1.4 and is humming and hawing over how to approach the problem.  There seems to be two schools of thought on that lens - one who wants something faster than the 1.8 but the size and weight of the lens must be retained with decent quality, and the other group which would prefer Canon look to create a 50 1.4 where image quality is a priority and little else.  Canon's offering for 85 1.4 indicates that the pickle jar size approach seems to be ideal, but that may not service the current users of the 50 1.4 who have to hand hold the camera for long periods and manage a relatively low profile lens.

Wild speculation continues!

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Re: Is the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Still Being Announced This Month?
« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2018, 02:06:30 PM »
We <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/the-canon-ef-70-200mm-f-4l-is-ii-is-coming-in-april-cr3/">reported in March of this year</a> that the upcoming Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II was going to be announced this month.</p>
<p>I will say that I am pleasantly surprised about how many people seem to be looking forward to this lens.</p>
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I've always thought that the 4.0 versions of the 70/200mm are extremely underrated. I've owned both versions and my advice for the novice sports photographers with limited financial resources is to find a clean used non IS 4.0 on eBay or craigslist or new/used at B&H/Adorama. My assignment logistics always require speed to be never under 750 so no need for IS. The 4.0 IS is my go to long zoom for indoor handheld especially personal photography. I'm looking forward to the v2 but I'm pleased with v1 ...but it'll be even better so I'm in! BTW my company is all action sports assignments such as road races, short triathlons, IRON distance Tri's, ultra distance trial runs, & bike races ...so tri-pods are always being used for any lens longer than medium zooms 24-70 2.8L or the very popular 24/105 4.0L IS.

I personally will always have two of each version and believe me the back-ups come in handy when the shooters have a malfunction or forget to bring the lens which is stupid as hell except I did it once myself(!) as a novice ;)

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Re: Is the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Still Being Announced This Month?
« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2018, 06:27:01 PM »
...I'm wondering if a reason that a new 70-200 f4 IS is likely is because of the fact that...

*when this lens is attached to my M6, and I turn on IS (on the lens), the IS is 'always on' (unless I turn off IS on the lens itself).

When attached to my 5DMk3, the IS only 'engages' when I press on the shutter-release button.

I had never discovered this 'feature', until earlier today when I aimed to compare 150mm focal length images captured with M6 + 18-150mm EF-M lens vs. M6 + adapter + 70-200 f4 IS lens.

CR readers...what say you?

Can I turn 'off' IS acquisition when using the 70-200 lens + M6 combo any other way than literally turning it off on the lens?

...and if not, is this a reason that a new lens is on the horizon?

I'm about to test my 17-55 f2.8 IS lens (with adaptor) to see if its IS acts the same way...a way that I'm sure kills M6 battery life.
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Re: Is the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Still Being Announced This Month?
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2018, 07:47:18 PM »
...I'm wondering if a reason that a new 70-200 f4 IS is likely is because of the fact that...

*when this lens is attached to my M6, and I turn on IS (on the lens), the IS is 'always on' (unless I turn off IS on the lens itself).

When attached to my 5DMk3, the IS only 'engages' when I press on the shutter-release button.

I had never discovered this 'feature', until earlier today when I aimed to compare 150mm focal length images captured with M6 + 18-150mm EF-M lens vs. M6 + adapter + 70-200 f4 IS lens.

CR readers...what say you?

Can I turn 'off' IS acquisition when using the 70-200 lens + M6 combo any other way than literally turning it off on the lens?

...and if not, is this a reason that a new lens is on the horizon?

I'm about to test my 17-55 f2.8 IS lens (with adaptor) to see if its IS acts the same way...a way that I'm sure kills M6 battery life.

fwiw, all my IS lenses work just fine on my M5
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Re: Is the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Still Being Announced This Month?
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2018, 07:47:18 PM »

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Re: Is the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Still Being Announced This Month?
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2018, 07:09:20 AM »
LOL, I wonder how many suckers out there sold their 70-200mm 4.0 IS in anticipation for this piece of vaporware.

Imaginary lenses and cameras take great pictures and cost nothing.

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Re: Is the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Still Being Announced This Month?
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2018, 10:15:27 AM »
LOL, I wonder how many suckers out there sold their 70-200mm 4.0 IS in anticipation for this piece of vaporware.

Imaginary lenses and cameras take great pictures and cost nothing.

I would imagine less than the number of fingers on a sawmill operators left hand.
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Re: Is the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II Still Being Announced This Month?
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2018, 10:15:27 AM »