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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2012, 09:54:28 PM »
I can totally understand what Canon have done with the 5d III from a business perspective. However, for many landscape/portrait/architecture 'togs - it will be difficult to justify choosing the 5dIII over the II while both are available.

For me, shooting at no more than ISO800 (most often in controlled lighting) and not needing more than one (central, excellent) AF point, the 5d III isn't worth the plunge. I was seriously thinking about crossing over to the 'dark side'. But, I just can't ;-)

So.......I'm getting a 5dII and some very serious glass. I'll be hoping that Canon's Studio Monster comes out by Photokina time ;-)

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« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2012, 10:26:44 PM »
From a quick monitor by monitor analysis of two photos, it appears that 25K ISO on the 5DIII matches 6400ISO on the T2i, and so this is a very exciting move for a lot of crop photographers who were waiting for a new full frame. 

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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2012, 11:04:01 PM »
From a quick monitor by monitor analysis of two photos, it appears that 25K ISO on the 5DIII matches 6400ISO on the T2i, and so this is a very exciting move for a lot of crop photographers who were waiting for a new full frame.

You're describing me. And I'm not excited.

Are all my photos going to require WB adjustment in RAW like with my T2i? Because it looks like Canon still makes everything look too warm. Are the blacks going to be washed out like with my T2i? Shadow detail smudged to oblivion?

Nothing I've seen makes me want to plunk down $3,500.
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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2012, 11:13:20 PM »
These are some of the cleanest ISO 25000 shots I've ever seen from any camera. I first shot at ISO 25000 back in 1990, pushing T-Max p3200. Trust me; they looked nowhere near this good.

Tough crowd. Some people have no idea how far we've come.

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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2012, 11:20:33 PM »
These are some of the cleanest ISO 25000 shots I've ever seen from any camera. I first shot at ISO 25000 back in 1990, pushing T-Max p3200. Trust me; they looked nowhere near this good.

Tough crowd. Some people have no idea how far we've come.
I agree. Much better than my 50D's 12800 or even 6400.

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« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2012, 11:29:24 PM »
These are some of the cleanest ISO 25000 shots I've ever seen from any camera. I first shot at ISO 25000 back in 1990, pushing T-Max p3200. Trust me; they looked nowhere near this good.

Tough crowd. Some people have no idea how far we've come.
I agree. Much better than my 50D's 12800 or even 6400.

I shot my 50D tonight at 3200, ouch.  Nevermind 6.4 or 12.8.
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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2012, 12:50:54 AM »
I really can't believe someone would call this "stunning". The colors look horrible!

There are no shades of black; everything turned magenta as the 5D Mark II used to do.

I'm attaching a photo taken with the Mark II at ISO 25600.
It's as sharp as the Mark III, and the colors look as bad.
I don't see any improvement.

Just some details: Canon 5D Mark II + EF 50mm 1.2 L USM @ f/16 1/45s ISO25600

I believe the mark 3 if the white balance is set correctly will look pretty good. The earlier samples looked good to me they just had the crappy lighting thing going on indoors which always happens...when not using a flash the white balance must be adjusted unless there are colors in the room that ad to the atmosphere of the shot.
I cant prove my statement with my own samples at this point yet. But some i have seen so far and from CPN Pros like Brent Striton I take him very serious.  I quote "“When I take a picture I ask ‘Is this a realistic skin tone?’ as skin tone matters a great deal to me. The skin tone quality I’m getting out of the [5D] Mark III is by far the most realistic that I’ve ever had. It produces better skin tone than any other camera I’ve ever used. When I was photographing the Radball players I was astonished at the lack of [colour] cast across different conditions, different lighting etc. It was very consistent and very accurate colour reproduction. This is great for me because it means less work in post [production].
The other revelation about the sensor is the ability to truly work in low light. This isn’t some hype; this isn’t a case of setting up a camera and a tripod in a studio under perfect conditions and shooting an image at [ISO] 1600 and saying ‘look how good it is’. That’s just not the ‘real world’ for me. The real world is being able to go into some dark basement in some dark place, covering a difficult issue, and being able to make a picture that I previously could not have made because the sensor capabilities just didn’t make it possible. Previously, if I shot this [type of picture] it would be noisy and there would be all sorts of problems with the file."
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http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/education/technical/brent_stirton_shooting_eos_5d_mark_iii.do
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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2012, 02:07:11 AM »
The other revelation about the sensor is the ability to truly work in low light. This isn’t some hype; this isn’t a case of setting up a camera and a tripod in a studio under perfect conditions and shooting an image at [ISO] 1600 and saying ‘look how good it is’. That’s just not the ‘real world’ for me. The real world is being able to go into some dark basement in some dark place, covering a difficult issue, and being able to make a picture that I previously could not have made because the sensor capabilities just didn’t make it possible. Previously, if I shot this [type of picture] it would be noisy and there would be all sorts of problems with the file."

Thank-you.   

You said more than Canon's lost marketing department could say throughout this launch.

To introduce this camera, you do not shoot nicely lit studio stuff and hope to showcase that against the megapixel-hungry competition at 100 ISO.  You show a dark candle-lit scene; or a stormy cloud landscape; or a night sports shot or whatever you do to showcase stuff not possible before.  Yes, some of Canon's Masters have done that (the Formula One stuff for example) - but the launch, the samples, wtf!   

It wasnt for lack of headline.   Marketing had their headline and they just blew it off with poor messaging.   But has that not been the way for the past year - with the lack of any transparency in what is a professional tool?   

Personally I am going to enjoy capturing all those images with the 5DmIII.  And enjoy not looking at a noise circus at the 100% pixel level.  It will be a cool camera with the headroom to be truly creative.


 
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Re: 5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!
« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2012, 02:52:44 AM »
These look great, and I would consider buying a 5DIII if it had at least 23 megapixels and cost $3,498. At 22 megapixels and $3,499, it's just not the camera for me :D


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« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2012, 02:57:20 AM »
I will be interested to see how the DR stands up at high iso - images look clean but lacking in DR which is what happens to all sensors at high iso.


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« Reply #40 on: March 20, 2012, 03:08:59 AM »
Awesome....can't wait to attach 50mm f1.4 to this camera....IQ should be great if bring it down to f2 to 2.8

Me too but I hope the 50 1.4 AF motor is strong enough to keep up with the 5d3 AF system... I've had lenses struggle to keep up with the 7D and this is supposed to be better/faster... whoa nelly

The 50 1.2 is too slow for the 1D IV, the 1.4 is faster, but it'll probably struggle.

On topic, not at all impressed. I think the really S___ty images probably have something to do with that.

The 50 f/1.4 keeps up with the 1D4 so I doubt whether the 5DIII will test it. It is worth remembering that the 5D3 has the same fps as the 40/50D.

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« Reply #41 on: March 20, 2012, 11:02:26 AM »
wow...most of them are soft . unbelievable ..not a single one of them is tack sharp

. . . when you say "tack sharp," which photos are you referring to!? The 25600ISO or the images from the Canon webpage by Stirton? Either way, you need to seriously stop mimicking vocabulary to sound like a photographer.

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« Reply #42 on: March 20, 2012, 12:00:51 PM »
The serious wedding and landscape users will be maxing out at iso800, probably 100/200 most of the time so iso 25600 is only really for some sports snappers

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« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2012, 12:07:07 PM »
The serious wedding and landscape users will be maxing out at iso800, probably 100/200 most of the time so iso 25600 is only really for some sports snappers

 :o

you got be kidding  ;D ;D ;D have you ever been in really dark church or wedding hall? sometimes lowest possible ISO to  use is 3200 @ f1.4  ...

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« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2012, 12:53:56 PM »
The serious wedding and landscape users will be maxing out at iso800, probably 100/200 most of the time so iso 25600 is only really for some sports snappers

 :o

you got be kidding  ;D ;D ;D have you ever been in really dark church or wedding hall? sometimes lowest possible ISO to  use is 3200 @ f1.4  ...

You mean you dont use flash?????

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« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2012, 12:53:56 PM »