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Re: 5D3 for landscapes
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2012, 06:23:47 PM »
The waterfalls are beautiful!

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Re: 5D3 for landscapes
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2012, 02:38:34 AM »
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Landscapes really need a full dynamic range, including shadows. For me, the shadow areas are lacking, making it look unreal. This is another problem with HDR, I find that HDR photos look too surreal. That's fine if it is the look  you're looking for, but it isn't something that is desirable in traditional landscape photogprahy. Also, when shooting water, it usually looks better to have some texture in rivers and waterfalls, although the misty look works well for coastal scenes. The textures help to emphasise the movement

For me, Kernuak nailed it all in the above quote.  I won't reiterate but completely agree.  When you use HDR software it is important to get the right settings so that they don't look so surreal or lack DR in any areas such as highlights, midtones and shadows.  There's a lot of good HDR software out there. One I recommend that gives the user complete and total control is by HDRSoft - called Photomatix Pro 4.2.  Sure, there are various predefined templates to get you started on the look you are seeking but its important to view those sliders until your end result is more realistic vs. surrealistic.   As an example the Blacpoint setting should almost always be reviewed to get more or less of the shadow areas.  I hope you are able to revisit that place again (what a perfect place for landscape) and re-attempt your shots now that you've got some additional thoughts in mind.  I might lay off the HDR, work with RAW and in Manual mode to get exactly what you want.  You can always post process afterward to strengthen the DNR, Sharpenss, etc.
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Re: 5D3 for landscapes
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2012, 11:46:26 PM »
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Landscapes really need a full dynamic range, including shadows. For me, the shadow areas are lacking, making it look unreal. This is another problem with HDR, I find that HDR photos look too surreal. That's fine if it is the look  you're looking for, but it isn't something that is desirable in traditional landscape photogprahy. Also, when shooting water, it usually looks better to have some texture in rivers and waterfalls, although the misty look works well for coastal scenes. The textures help to emphasise the movement

For me, Kernuak nailed it all in the above quote.  I won't reiterate but completely agree.  When you use HDR software it is important to get the right settings so that they don't look so surreal or lack DR in any areas such as highlights, midtones and shadows.  There's a lot of good HDR software out there. One I recommend that gives the user complete and total control is by HDRSoft - called Photomatix Pro 4.2.  Sure, there are various predefined templates to get you started on the look you are seeking but its important to view those sliders until your end result is more realistic vs. surrealistic.   As an example the Blacpoint setting should almost always be reviewed to get more or less of the shadow areas.  I hope you are able to revisit that place again (what a perfect place for landscape) and re-attempt your shots now that you've got some additional thoughts in mind.  I might lay off the HDR, work with RAW and in Manual mode to get exactly what you want.  You can always post process afterward to strengthen the DNR, Sharpenss, etc.

I used photomatix. And I always work in raw and M. :) I defiantly want to go back soon! I think i want to go back when there is some snow on the ground.
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Re: 5D3 for landscapes
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2012, 02:06:36 AM »
I post this link up a fair bit when people talk about HDR
I find this guys techniques produce very very nice results with a very natural feel
have a look, it takes reading through his tutorials a few times to get to grips with how it all works
and its no where near as quick as photomatix but no where near as bad either ;)

http://goodlight.us/
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Re: 5D3 for landscapes
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2012, 08:44:26 PM »
I post this link up a fair bit when people talk about HDR
I find this guys techniques produce very very nice results with a very natural feel
have a look, it takes reading through his tutorials a few times to get to grips with how it all works
and its no where near as quick as photomatix but no where near as bad either ;)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Profession-al-Tripod-Ball-Head-KS-0-Quick-Release-Plate-Benro-Manfro-/270943722244?pt=AU_TripodsMonopods&hash=item3f15811b04

Wombat, you may have pasted the wrong link... This one is a tripod head...

I would be interested in the HDR tutorial.

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Re: 5D3 for landscapes
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2012, 10:32:55 PM »
rofl what an idiot i am  :-[

i corrected the previous post

here is the link
got to the tutorial section
tons of material to read through but he goes into alot of detail

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Re: 5D3 for landscapes
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2012, 10:39:02 PM »
rofl what an idiot i am  :-[

i corrected the previous post

here is the link
got to the tutorial section
tons of material to read through but he goes into alot of detail

http://goodlight.us/

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Re: 5D3 for landscapes
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2012, 12:08:23 AM »
rofl what an idiot i am  :-[

i corrected the previous post

here is the link
got to the tutorial section
tons of material to read through but he goes into alot of detail

http://goodlight.us/

Thanks for the nice laugh though!
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Re: 5D3 for landscapes
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2012, 05:38:54 AM »
I love it

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Re: 5D3 for landscapes
« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2012, 07:20:24 AM »
I love it for Landscape! Just came back from Denmark.
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Re: 5D3 for landscapes
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2012, 10:25:58 AM »
I really like #3.

Went to your link and the salamander/lizard was cool, too.

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Re: 5D3 for landscapes
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2012, 04:35:21 PM »
rofl what an idiot i am  :-[

i corrected the previous post

here is the link
got to the tutorial section
tons of material to read through but he goes into alot of detail

http://goodlight.us/
I thought maybe his technique was to use a tripod (maybe even to use it on those that end up with so many halos, it looks like they are trying to get a job upstairs) :P. Good luck with the tripod.
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Re: 5D3 for landscapes
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2012, 01:21:11 AM »
Ok ..took this over the weekend with 5D MK3 and 16-35 2.8 MKII USM.  it's a single HDR and desaturated so it appears more real less surreal..more specs when you click the image on Flickr


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Re: 5D3 for landscapes
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2012, 01:21:11 AM »

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« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2012, 05:16:52 PM »
Ok ..took this over the weekend with 5D MK3 and 16-35 2.8 MKII USM.  it's a single HDR and desaturated so it appears more real less surreal..more specs when you click the image on Flickr


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If I was pushed, I would never have said it was an HDR.
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Re: 5D3 for landscapes
« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2012, 03:23:50 PM »
Lot of good points in here about the use/abuse of HDR in not only landscape but all forms of photography.  Here are a couple examples I've snapped from the last few weeks with my shiny new mk3 of how I use it augment my images, some of these are pretty traditional and some are a bit on the surreal side (click images for more detail on how/where they were shot)....


Big Sur by @!ex, on Flickr


Japanese Bokeh Garden by @!ex, on Flickr


Redwindow by @!ex, on Flickr


Power Sources by @!ex, on Flickr


My Hood by @!ex, on Flickr


No Lines by @!ex, on Flickr


Drought by @!ex, on Flickr


Spring in Boulder by @!ex, on Flickr


From Nowhere by @!ex, on Flickr


Perspective by @!ex, on Flickr


Cloud Bunker by @!ex, on Flickr

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Re: 5D3 for landscapes
« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2012, 03:23:50 PM »