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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2012, 07:31:46 AM »
My hope is that it will ship first or second week of July.


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« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2012, 07:15:17 PM »
I am a life-long Canon owner/user but I'm getting pissed.  I think they are abusing brand loyalty.  I ordered this lens in March and the expected release date was April 17.  Still no lens and now "perhaps" maybe July sometime.  Canon is announcing many products then not delivering.  I think it is to keep buyers from going to other brands...just keep us on the hook.  It seems like a regular pattern.  I wanted this lens for a special project beginning July 1 and now I am stuck (even bought a 5D mkIII for this purpose thinking it would make a winderful combination).  I'm not a happy Canon user!

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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2012, 08:56:59 AM »
It's still showing up on the Canon Japan site as coming in the first 10 days of July.
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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2012, 03:22:03 PM »
The quality and expense of this lens is probably due to the high resolution/mega pixels camera we hope Canon will release soon. You need some serious glass quality to take advantage of cameras like the D800.

I can't wait to get mine tho!

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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2012, 03:37:00 PM »
The quality and expense of this lens is probably due to the high resolution/mega pixels camera we hope Canon will release soon. You need some serious glass quality to take advantage of cameras like the D800.


I agree this is Canon's future perspective. But right now, is your statement valid the other way around, too? Like you don't need the 24-70ii if you're happy with 21/22mp, esp. if corner sharpness is not the primary concern? I just asked this for weddings, and probably will get the Tamron 24-70 instead: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=7479.0

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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2012, 03:49:37 PM »
The quality and expense of this lens is probably due to the high resolution/mega pixels camera we hope Canon will release soon. You need some serious glass quality to take advantage of cameras like the D800.


I agree this is Canon's future perspective. But right now, is your statement valid the other way around, too? Like you don't need the 24-70ii if you're happy with 21/22mp, esp. if corner sharpness is not the primary concern? I just asked this for weddings, and probably will get the Tamron 24-70 instead: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=7479.0


Yeap! I agree with you. The Tamron should be enough for 22mp!

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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2012, 09:52:49 PM »
I bought a 5D3 and have the new 24-70 on pre-order (sold my version 1 many months ago). If you go to http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff  and compare Nikon FF lenses with Canon, pretty much EVERY single Nikon lens is sharper than Canon. I got frustrated when I was like ok, no WAY the 85 1.2 is worse then the Nikon in terms of sharpness, but it's not so. I understand that there's more to look at in terms of build quality/CA/Bokeh/Vignette, but I wanted to see the MTF charts. It looks like the Canon 24 1.4/35 1.4/50 1.2-1.4/85 1.2, e.c.t, lack in terms of resolving more detail than Nikon. I really hope this new version is better than Nikon's 24-70, considering the cost. I'm well aware that Canon has arguably the best 70-200, but was more focused on the other medium range primes. 

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« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2012, 09:52:49 PM »

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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2012, 10:40:15 PM »
I bought a 5D3 and have the new 24-70 on pre-order (sold my version 1 many months ago). If you go to http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff  and compare Nikon FF lenses with Canon, pretty much EVERY single Nikon lens is sharper than Canon.


How do you compare them ? The authors of the website, photozone repeatedly state that results from different sensors are not comparable. (edit: and the results from the same lens on different sensors are substantially different).

According to this: http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/01/the-great-50mm-shootout the Canon does OK at 50mm.
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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2012, 10:50:34 PM »
Oops  :o (Thanks for enlightening me)

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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2012, 09:34:45 PM »
Does anyone have an update on the possible ship date for the new 24-70?

Arrrr my god could I have ever used this lens today. :(
Forget how horrific tamron 28-75 corners are on FF anywhere near wide open. :(
Dang what a shoot to have not had it available. :(
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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2012, 01:44:54 AM »
Why has there been such a delay on the 24-70 2.8L II? I'd love to add this lens to my kit.

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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2012, 02:05:40 AM »
Yup, I'm getting the before Christmas jitters.  Even went as far to go check up at my local camera store where i have my pre-order to see if they heard anything.  Only info they were able to give me was the price 195,000 JPY.  Even went ahead and ordered a Hoya Zeta filter and Tamron lens cap for the new lens when it comes in, hopefully next week (Canon Japan's site still says first 10 days of July).
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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2012, 09:22:26 AM »
I was at Samy's Camera Los Angeles today (5/9) and the canon rep there said that he has heard it may be by the end of June. But, I've read other places they are expecting it sometime in July.  He did say that he has seen prints and it is a really sharp lens and the reason for the $900 price increase has to do with the cost of the materials and special lens elements.... (ok!?)

Either way, I can't wait.

Actually the reason for the $900 price increase is that Canon prices their products fairly consistently in Yen. The new lens costs the exact same as the old lens did in yen (adjusted for inflation) down to a few tenths of a percent. The $900 is the effect of the exchange rate. Nothing more, nothing less.

International companies don't often play currency games like that. Especially 'down to a few tents of a percent' - that's ridiculous. They will keep this price for years and currency fluctuates all the time, especially now with the Yen carry trade. As for inflation - what inflation? CPI, core CPI? There isn't a single 'inflation', as inflation & deflation change individually for every item in an economy, and the statistical aggregate that is announced doesn't actually correspond for any particular product.

Really ... Canon has employees all over the world, all the sales reps, the repair centers, regional offices, R&D and manufacturing. Money is fungible and they have to pay out a lot of bucks, so that money you pay in bucks for your lens doesn't necessarily ever see Japanese shores.

I work in a similar industry, and trust me the price setting marketing team is not calculating currency or inflation. They raised the price because they can - or they think they can (you never know until you start selling it and seeing the numbers).

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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2012, 09:22:26 AM »

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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2012, 10:49:34 AM »
My local camera shop expects to see the 24-70 mk2 any day, but in kits with bodies that they will then split.

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Re: Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2012, 01:50:49 PM »
My local camera shop expects to see the 24-70 mk2 any day, but in kits with bodies that they will then split.

Interesting.. I have a preorder set up, but if white boxes end up available, I'd definitely prefer one!
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