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Continuous blow out, with ETTL troubleshooting

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onlyme:

Not sure if this has been mentioned but the diffuser out will disable the flash zoom. Could it be where your diffuser is bashed up the flash thinks its out and not zooming properly?

Biffbim:
For my attempted fill flash I had centre point AF, evaluative metering and front curtain sync.  The face fairly
much filled the frame and was blown out horribly. Six shots all the same.
Is this where I should be using HSS?  Setting manual and letting the ETTL do the work? I'm sure there is something
I'm not getting about fill flash.

Chris Burch:
Look under the speedlight settings on the in-camera menu and change the metering type from Evaluative to Average.  I find it gives me FAR more consistent flash results and fewer issues with blown out faces.  Canon admits Evaluative is primarily for outdoor use and may not be suited for indoor shooting.  It still varies quite widely though, so be prepared to adjust flash compensation as needed.

The 5DII and 5DIII both weight their metering to the focal point at the time of shutter release and not when you originally locked.  If you lock focus and then recompose, you might end up with the locked focus point in the center of the frame and pointing at a black tux instead of a bright face.  The camera will then try to expose the tux more so than the face and you'll get blown out skin tones.  I do centerpoint focus/recompose, so i always have this issue with evaluative metering in the flash.

olivander:
Yeah I average everything, I think she needs replacing sometimes she gets confused whether the diffuser is in or out (it's definitely out, on the floor in some dirty club in Sydney somewhere).

I found manual worked really well I dont mind stopping up and down https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=474250909257265&set=a.474245409257815.128674.465145816834441&type=1

I'll probably buy a 430, I just punch hard light at everything and do everything else in post, softboxes are a waste of time for me. And god after the trashing this flash has taken, I think I'll buy something cheaper next time. I'm a club/festival shooter, unless someone can give me a great reason to try anything else I'll probably go this way.

I'm not to sure of the model differences (except the 600 has radio) and the 580 has more options, but I pretty much just use ETTL, or manual.

Let me know if there's anything else I should try before adding her to my other wasted equipment, there seems to of been a lot of that lately for me. I should start shooting safer stuff... (Won't happen)

The disadvantage of live event is that I'm insane with where I go...

wickidwombat:

--- Quote from: olivander on May 31, 2012, 11:17:50 AM ---Yeah I average everything, I think she needs replacing sometimes she gets confused whether the diffuser is in or out (it's definitely out, on the floor in some dirty club in Sydney somewhere).

I found manual worked really well I dont mind stopping up and down https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=474250909257265&set=a.474245409257815.128674.465145816834441&type=1

I'll probably buy a 430, I just punch hard light at everything and do everything else in post, softboxes are a waste of time for me. And god after the trashing this flash has taken, I think I'll buy something cheaper next time. I'm a club/festival shooter, unless someone can give me a great reason to try anything else I'll probably go this way.

I'm not to sure of the model differences (except the 600 has radio) and the 580 has more options, but I pretty much just use ETTL, or manual.

Let me know if there's anything else I should try before adding her to my other wasted equipment, there seems to of been a lot of that lately for me. I should start shooting safer stuff... (Won't happen)

The disadvantage of live event is that I'm insane with where I go...

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the yongnuo 565 are basicaly a much cheaper copy of the 580 only main difference is the lack of HSS so if you dont use HSS much it might be  a pretty good option at $150 not such an issue if it gets trashed and if you dont even need ettl the 560 from yongnuo are only $70 almost disposable!

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