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Re: A Bit of Mirrorless Informaton [CR3]
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2012, 02:04:14 PM »
I don't think it matters much what they release now. Just to get some future posts out of the way...


It costs too much!

With the kind of stuff people complain about on here, I'm sure someone will say it coast to little!

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Re: A Bit of Mirrorless Informaton [CR3]
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2012, 02:04:14 PM »

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Re: A Bit of Mirrorless Informaton [CR3]
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2012, 02:04:54 PM »
I don't think it matters much what they release now. Just to get some future posts out of the way...

That body is too big or small.
The sensor is too big or small.
The MP count is too many or few.
The kit zoom lens is too big or slow.
The prime(s) are too big and/or slow.
The AF is too slow.
It costs too much!

AWESOME post!  But, you neglected to mention that although they're future posts, they won't be TOO far in the future.  All of those posts will take place PRIOR to any of the people posting them actually getting their hands on one and the system through the proper paces.  Posts like that are all vaguely reminiscent of an old saying about judging, books, and covers...

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Re: A Bit of Mirrorless Informaton [CR3]
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2012, 02:08:26 PM »
I don't think it matters much what they release now. Just to get some future posts out of the way...

That body is too big or small.
The sensor is too big or small.
The MP count is too many or few.
The kit zoom lens is too big or slow.
The prime(s) are too big and/or slow.
The AF is too slow.
It costs too much!

You forgot some sensor performance comparison from DxO....
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Re: A Bit of Mirrorless Informaton [CR3]
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2012, 02:09:39 PM »
You forgot some sensor performance comparison from DxO....
I did say *some*, not all :)
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Re: A Bit of Mirrorless Informaton [CR3]
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2012, 02:11:14 PM »
You forgot some sensor performance comparison from DxO....
I did say *some*, not all :)

So did I  ;D ;D
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Re: A Bit of Mirrorless Informaton [CR3]
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2012, 02:26:53 PM »
Too bad.  I'd vastly prefer it to have retro styling.  I know it shouldn't matter (I could care less what my professional bodies look like), but it'd certainly make it more fun/unique.

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Re: A Bit of Mirrorless Informaton [CR3]
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2012, 02:39:06 PM »
It will be interesting, I hope they either get it right or will sell enough to come out with future models.  It is a very hard thing to get right.  It has to be thin, have good battery life, a big sensor, good fast lenses...  But it will have less functionality than a G1X (no IS or zoom, and now dust problems)  And I would have to worry about security guards at events preventing me from bringing in a camera with a removable lens...

I would think the 50 f/1.8 would be a good lens for this from a size/weight/speed point of view. 

Quite frankly, I would rather see them improve the G1X line to include a f/2 lens (while making it smaller/thinner in other parts).  I already know that if I am going to use my EF lenses, I will bring the 5Dm2 with me.
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Re: A Bit of Mirrorless Informaton [CR3]
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2012, 02:39:06 PM »

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Re: A Bit of Mirrorless Informaton [CR3]
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2012, 02:54:20 PM »
Welcome back CR Guy, ‘above and beyond the call’  if you ask me. Anyway I think you’ve posted the really important thing here and your not talking it up. Lots of disappointment in the offing. It’s not going to be a trad rangefinder design happy days for Leica/ Fuji et al though. Guess you have to respect Canon market research though I suspect they are right.

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Re: A Bit of Mirrorless Informaton [CR3]
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2012, 02:55:58 PM »
Just give me a aps-c sensor and a fast 35mm or 50mm prime. Its all I'll ever need from a mirror-less camera and possibly a EF lens adapter.

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Re: A Bit of Mirrorless Informaton [CR3]
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2012, 03:24:53 PM »
I would want a true canon competitor to the NEX line, specifically the NEX-7. The lens selection on the NEX is what is holding me back. Of course if Canon released a series of cameras for teh different niches like Sony did, that would be awesome (NEX-3, NEX-5, NEX-7, etc.)

Bottom line, if Canon makes a more pro mirrorless body, with an EF adapter option, and a decent selection of compact/small/pancake lenses, I'm all in
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Re: A Bit of Mirrorless Informaton [CR3]
« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2012, 03:25:16 PM »
I do not find the Fuji X100 useless. Just the opposite. :)
Canon could have come into the mirrorless fray at the end and swept everyone off their feet....but from what I am reading this "big" mirrorless release is going to be a real yawner.  In one word: Mediocre. (and then everything that lol said!)
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Re: A Bit of Mirrorless Informaton [CR3]
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2012, 04:20:24 PM »
well at least it´s no m43 sized sensor.

i was never happy with my e-pl1 and the gf3.

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Re: A Bit of Mirrorless Informaton [CR3]
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2012, 04:27:39 PM »
It's to be hoped that it isn't too much like the Nikon V1, it's been a disaster!  Last time I went to the camera shop they hated them few customers wanted them, but those who did often returned them.  Never have I seen such a poor review on DPreview.

For me the look aren't as important as image quality, and auto focus speed.  There are a few other things I would like but I'll wait & see.
They appeared in discount stores like Costco only a few weeks after hitting the market, and Nikon Sr Managers are very defensive when asked about them.  There must be a reason.

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Re: A Bit of Mirrorless Informaton [CR3]
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Re: A Bit of Mirrorless Informaton [CR3]
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2012, 04:56:43 PM »
I don't think it matters much what they release now. Just to get some future posts out of the way...

That body is too big or small.
The sensor is too big or small.
The MP count is too many or few.
The kit zoom lens is too big or slow.
The prime(s) are too big and/or slow.
The AF is too slow.
It costs too much!

 ;D Nice Post, another one would be "It's not good as a 5D Mark III....or even a Mark IV for that matter :o" LOL geez.....
O yea "It's tooooo much noise at ISO 100"  :)





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Re: A Bit of Mirrorless Informaton [CR3]
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2012, 04:57:44 PM »
well at least it´s no m43 sized sensor.

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I wonder how you can say that when we don't even know the specs yet?

I handled an OMD EM5 today and sat the body next to my old G11 and have to say that with just a pancake lens I think I might have gone for it, it's actually smaller than a G11 but the size of the kit zoom just lets it's down -plus of course the body plus a pancake lens are going to cost 3x a G12!

What if Canon's entry into the mirrorless zone blows away the Oly m43? Will I be tempted* or still hang on for a G14 at Photokina?

*I hear the menu system on the OMD is a nightmare!

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Re: A Bit of Mirrorless Informaton [CR3]
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2012, 04:57:44 PM »