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Re: Im looking into getting a new camera
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2012, 02:53:53 PM »
My budget is about 1000 which I know isn't much but I wanna make sure I get the most bang for my buck. Any suggestions?

It depends on what you're shooting (what are you shooting?) but my boilerplate advice to those on this kind of budget is to spend very little on the body and put it into glass and/or a flash. Bodies depreciate very quickly, especially in this price range, so you will always pay a steep premium for the latest. To put this into perspective, Canon still sell lenses that are around 20 years old as "current" models.

As someone else pointed out in this thread, the 30D is about $250. Good candidates for lenses are the Tamron 17-50 non VC for a zoom, the Canon 50mm f/1.4 or a cheaper 50mm f/1.8  for a portrait lens. I would generally recommend against variable aperture zooms (which includes the kit lens). The 15-85mm is pretty decent but it may be a bit of a stretch on your budget.

If you want video you will need a newer model, at that point you need to go with one of the Rebel series (the first of the higher XXD series that supports video is the 60D which will blow your budget). Video on DSLR is essentially manual focus only (the autofocus is so poor that you can only really use it to prefocus at the start of a movie)

Regarding refurbished gear -- if you buy it from Canon's online store, it's as good as new.

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Re: Im looking into getting a new camera
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2012, 03:22:21 PM »
T2i with 15-85 that some member before suggested seems the best value for money (the lens is much more important)

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Re: Im looking into getting a new camera
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2012, 04:25:42 PM »
Thanks for the help! Think going with the t3i. I found a scratch protector for it too. Same place I got one for my phone, www.xoskins.com... I'd recommend them for anyone.  :)
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« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2012, 02:09:07 PM »
I am agree with that t3i is the good one and should have to try it.

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Re: Im looking into getting a new camera
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2012, 10:15:45 AM »
My budget is about 1000 which I know isn't much but I wanna make sure I get the most bang for my buck. Any suggestions?

It depends on what you're shooting (what are you shooting?) but my boilerplate advice to those on this kind of budget is to spend very little on the body and put it into glass and/or a flash. Bodies depreciate very quickly, especially in this price range, so you will always pay a steep premium for the latest. To put this into perspective, Canon still sell lenses that are around 20 years old as "current" models.

As someone else pointed out in this thread, the 30D is about $250. Good candidates for lenses are the Tamron 17-50 non VC for a zoom, the Canon 50mm f/1.4 or a cheaper 50mm f/1.8  for a portrait lens. I would generally recommend against variable aperture zooms (which includes the kit lens). The 15-85mm is pretty decent but it may be a bit of a stretch on your budget.

If you want video you will need a newer model, at that point you need to go with one of the Rebel series (the first of the higher XXD series that supports video is the 60D which will blow your budget). Video on DSLR is essentially manual focus only (the autofocus is so poor that you can only really use it to prefocus at the start of a movie)

Regarding refurbished gear -- if you buy it from Canon's online store, it's as good as new.

My advice is for you to get a 50D.  It's cheaper, faster and has AFMA.  Its IQ isn't much different to 60D.  Get a Tamron 17-50, non-VC and a Yongnuo flash and you're ready to go.  Later on, you can add the cheap 55-250 IS to your lens arsenal.

However, for a little bit more than $1K, you can also get a refurbished Canon 5D classic and a 50mm 1.8 II or 35mm F2.0.  You can add a Yongnuo flash later if you want.  That is if you don't need video.  Well it depends on what you really want to do.  If I'm going to start again, I'll take the 5D road map.  It's the road less traveled but you will learn more by starting with a prime lens.

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Re: Im looking into getting a new camera
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2012, 11:27:09 AM »
Don't buy new, at least initially.

Look at a cheap used FF like the 5Dc for about 500 to 600, then get a 50mm f/1.4 prime lens for another 300. With such a combo you'll learn a lot about manual photography (exposure, DoF etc.), then you can decide if you want to upgrade later

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Re: Im looking into getting a new camera
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2012, 11:53:40 AM »
My budget is about 1000 which I know isn't much but I wanna make sure I get the most bang for my buck. Any suggestions?

5Dc + 50mm 1.8/1.4

done.

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Re: Im looking into getting a new camera
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2012, 12:06:53 PM »
My budget is about 1000 which I know isn't much but I wanna make sure I get the most bang for my buck. Any suggestions?

5Dc + 50mm 1.8/1.4

done.

or a 35mm F2. or a 40mm F2.8 pancake (because it's cute.)

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« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2012, 12:24:52 PM »
if you want cute, then buy NIKON

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Re: Im looking into getting a new camera
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2012, 08:56:03 PM »
if you want cute, then buy NIKON

Not so loud.  Already, there are already a lot of reasons to switch to Nikon.  I'm still disappointed on the current Canon's offering for the body.  I already wanted to go FF.

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Re: Im looking into getting a new camera
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2012, 10:24:08 PM »
If I have a $1000 right now and I knew now what I didn't know then (when I started), I would do the following.  Spend $5 on an old Canon film camera.  Then contact Canon customer service and ask about the canon loyalty program where you can buy a refurb for a 20% discount.  I'm going to presume you live where they don't have tax. 

I would get a t2i which is as good as the t3i and almost as good as the t4i.  At 20% off, I'm looking at $307.19 plus the 5 bucks I spent to get the film camera to trade in. 

That leaves me with $687.80.  I know Canon will extend the 20% discount to lenses when you buy a body, but I don't recall which lenses... so I'll tell you to wait for a 20% off sale which happens every now and then. 

You will want a 50mm f/1.8 and a 55-250mm f/4-5.6 which are excellent value You can occasionally find the pair for $250... So that will leave you with $437.

I agree about the 18-85 which is your best mid level option.  At 20% you are looking at 511... which is 80 bucks too much.  So if you take portraits... opt for the 50mm and not the 55-250.  If you go birding in well lit environments, I'd suggest keeping the 55-250 and not getting the 50mm.  Though you should really consider it at some point because it opens up a whole world of photography that you otherwise may be unaware of.  Bokeh, depth of field... low light photography... all with one lens... though stop it down to f/2.8 to get sharp results.
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Re: Im looking into getting a new camera
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2012, 10:25:29 PM »
alternatively, get a t2i, a 430ex ii speedlite, a 15-85 and get the rest later.  A good flash can make all the difference when you bounce it well.
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

XS->60D->5d Mkiii:18-55->24-105L:75-300->55-250->70-300->70-200 f4L USM->70-200 f/2.8L USM->70-200 f/2.8L IS Mkii:50 f/1.8->50 f/1.4->100L-> 85mm f/1.8 USM-> 8mm -> 85mm f/1.2L mkii

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Re: Im looking into getting a new camera
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2012, 10:35:40 PM »
Don't buy new, at least initially.

Look at a cheap used FF like the 5Dc for about 500 to 600, then get a 50mm f/1.4 prime lens for another 300. With such a combo you'll learn a lot about manual photography (exposure, DoF etc.), then you can decide if you want to upgrade later

I don't dislike that pairing... but I wouldn't suggest it for a novice.  Learning to control depth of field was one of the last things I "mastered" and I still wouldn't say I mastered it.  Learning to bounce a flash on the fly is my most recent endeavor. 
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

XS->60D->5d Mkiii:18-55->24-105L:75-300->55-250->70-300->70-200 f4L USM->70-200 f/2.8L USM->70-200 f/2.8L IS Mkii:50 f/1.8->50 f/1.4->100L-> 85mm f/1.8 USM-> 8mm -> 85mm f/1.2L mkii

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« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2012, 10:48:59 PM »
I would look for a 5Dc as well and pair it with a 40 pancake. A simple, unobtrusive prime with a great focal length. No huge DoF learning curve and simple layout/functions. Just like taking your first film class and learning to shoot in all manual. Puts you in control and truly helps you understand framing, composition and  settings.

I see a ton of 5D Classics out there with low shutter counts for ~$600-700. Keh, Adorama and B&H are all reputable dealers selling clean cameras.

If you are looking at a new APS-C body, Costco has great bundles on the 60D and 7D.

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Re: Im looking into getting a new camera
« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2012, 12:02:15 AM »
My budget is about 1000 which I know isn't much but I wanna make sure I get the most bang for my buck. Any suggestions?

5Dc + 50mm 1.8/1.4

done.

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A lot of people cut their teeth with only a 50mm in the days of film.  You could do far worse than that, and that combo will produce great images, and teach you good habits.  In a way, I have regrets starting out with a 35-70mm on my first SLR (an EOS 650), rather than a 50mm - I certainly developed some bad habits from starting with a zoom.
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