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What is your favorite christmas morning/party lens? Also do you use flash?

24-70 ii
8 (21.6%)
70-200 2.8 is
3 (8.1%)
35mm
12 (32.4%)
50mm
4 (10.8%)
85mm
4 (10.8%)
135mm
1 (2.7%)
24-105 f4 is
5 (13.5%)
70-200 f4 is
0 (0%)

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Need advice on indoor low light lens choices.
« on: September 06, 2012, 12:30:51 AM »
I have the following.
Canon 5d3
24-105
50 1.4
70-200 f4 is

I just bought the 70-200 f4 is for medium telephoto but still want something for better low light shooting. I ran a program to see my most used focal length and came up with 40,50,85,105.

I was looking at the following lenses for the upcoming holidays. Any suggestions?

24-70 mk ii
35 1.4
135mm f2
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Need advice on indoor low light lens choices.
« on: September 06, 2012, 12:30:51 AM »

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Re: Need advice on indoor low light lens choices.
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2012, 12:44:58 AM »
I have the following.
Canon 5d3
24-105
50 1.4
70-200 f4 is

I just bought the 70-200 f4 is for medium telephoto but still want something for better low light shooting. I ran a program to see my most used focal length and came up with 40,50,85,105.

I was looking at the following lenses for the upcoming holidays. Any suggestions?

24-70 mk ii
35 1.4
135mm f2

I have the 24-70II also ordered but the 70-200 2.8II matched with the 5DIII is an awesome combo.  I've taken a cpl of thousand shots and the results are outstanding in regards to low light shooting.
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Re: Need advice on indoor low light lens choices.
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2012, 01:38:22 AM »
I too was looking at the 135mm F2 as recent as yesterday but in comparison with the 100mm Macro USM L IS 2.8, the 100mm is sharper.  Take a look at the scores and visuals at http://www.the-digital-picture.com - see Tools then the ISO section.  There's not much that can beat the 100mm L IS USM 2.8 Macro except for the $5800 200mm F2.  That is one remarkable lens but the 100mm does well when compared to it as you will see and for a lot less.  I ran Focal alignment on the 100mm as well and no adjustments were necessary for front or back focusing which is unusual as most lenses need some adjustment.  The 1.4 50mm needed a -20 adjustment..that was disappointing but what do you expect for a $350 lens.  it's worst quality is 1.4 and its best is F10 at least on my lens.  Almost mitigates the point of owning a 1.4 when wide open it stinks.
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Re: Need advice on indoor low light lens choices.
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2012, 07:11:31 AM »
My 2 cents worth...

Sell 24-105L and replace it with the new 24-70L II as you'll gain an extra stop.

Although you just bought the 70-200 f4 IS, if you can exchange it for the 2.8 IS (v2 if you an afford it and weight is not a big issue) - meaning you'll have constant 2.8 aperture all the way from 24-200!

Still keep 50 1.4 for very low light. 

Hope this helps. Let us know what you think.

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Re: Need advice on indoor low light lens choices.
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2012, 07:51:18 AM »
Get yourself a Speedlite 570EXII. Very effective for fill flash and indoor use.

Looking at the lenses you have and the focal lengths you listed, the 50 1.4 should have you covered.

Both the 35 1.4 and the 135 2 are excellent.

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Re: Need advice on indoor low light lens choices.
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2012, 07:56:20 AM »
I have the following.
Canon 5d3
24-105
50 1.4
70-200 f4 is

I just bought the 70-200 f4 is for medium telephoto but still want something for better low light shooting. I ran a program to see my most used focal length and came up with 40,50,85,105.

I was looking at the following lenses for the upcoming holidays. Any suggestions?

24-70 mk ii
35 1.4
135mm f2

Do you use the 50 f/1.4 for low light already?  Are you satisfied with its performance?  Do you like the effects (shallow DOF, etc.) of shooting at f/1.4?  If so, the 35 f/1.4 makes a lot of sense, which would give you a 3 stop difference compared to your 24-105.

For indoor holiday parties with lots of group shots esp. indoors, I think the 135 is too long.  35 and 50 may be better suited.

f/2.8 is only one stop faster than f/4.  That is not fast enough for dim ambient light.  You might still be better off using your flash.  I'd wait for the reviews on the 24-70 II before plunking down 2k+ to see if it's worth upgrading from the 24-105.

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Re: Need advice on indoor low light lens choices.
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2012, 08:48:27 AM »
It depends on size of indoor. If it's not enough room, then 24-70 (I or II), if you have enough place in there - 70-200 F2.8 (II in case of IS)

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Re: Need advice on indoor low light lens choices.
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2012, 09:41:23 AM »
It depends on size of indoor. If it's not enough room, then 24-70 (I or II), if you have enough place in there - 70-200 F2.8 (II in case of IS)

I checked with my 24-105 this morning and it seems as though the 24-70 range for me will be my more used indoor simply because of room. I am debating on returning the f4 70-200 for the 2.8 but not really sure the added weight is worth the extra $1k and to only gain a stop still will require fill flash to me. I do not find myself using the 50mm simply because with kids it can be hard sometimes not being able to zoom in or out plus the more light the less my twins are in focus so thats why I am having a hard time finding the best way to approach most shooting environments knowing I cannot get them all. I did great birthday portraits with it at 2.8 but there was plenty of ambient light in the room. Basically what is everyones go to suggestion for christmas morning? Should i get the 600ex and go that route?
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Re: Need advice on indoor low light lens choices.
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2012, 09:57:58 AM »
It depends on size of indoor. If it's not enough room, then 24-70 (I or II), if you have enough place in there - 70-200 F2.8 (II in case of IS)

I checked with my 24-105 this morning and it seems as though the 24-70 range for me will be my more used indoor simply because of room. I am debating on returning the f4 70-200 for the 2.8 but not really sure the added weight is worth the extra $1k and to only gain a stop still will require fill flash to me. I do not find myself using the 50mm simply because with kids it can be hard sometimes not being able to zoom in or out plus the more light the less my twins are in focus so thats why I am having a hard time finding the best way to approach most shooting environments knowing I cannot get them all. I did great birthday portraits with it at 2.8 but there was plenty of ambient light in the room. Basically what is everyones go to suggestion for christmas morning? Should i get the 600ex and go that route?

Yes, get the flash.

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Re: Need advice on indoor low light lens choices.
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2012, 10:06:57 AM »
For indoor sports I use the Canon EF 200mm f2.0 L IS USM with 5 stop IS and I am very happy with it.

If the price is to high for you, you can use the EF 100 2.8 IS macro, the EF 70-200 2.8 II IS instead. (I would prefer the EF 70-200 2.8 II IS) or a fast prime lens.

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Re: Need advice on indoor low light lens choices.
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2012, 10:23:12 AM »
It depends on size of indoor. If it's not enough room, then 24-70 (I or II), if you have enough place in there - 70-200 F2.8 (II in case of IS)

I checked with my 24-105 this morning and it seems as though the 24-70 range for me will be my more used indoor simply because of room. I am debating on returning the f4 70-200 for the 2.8 but not really sure the added weight is worth the extra $1k and to only gain a stop still will require fill flash to me. I do not find myself using the 50mm simply because with kids it can be hard sometimes not being able to zoom in or out plus the more light the less my twins are in focus so thats why I am having a hard time finding the best way to approach most shooting environments knowing I cannot get them all. I did great birthday portraits with it at 2.8 but there was plenty of ambient light in the room. Basically what is everyones go to suggestion for christmas morning? Should i get the 600ex and go that route?

The Tamron SP 24-70mm Di VC USD is also a really competent contender . . . Christmas morning and flashes don't go together at my house
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Re: Need advice on indoor low light lens choices.
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2012, 10:23:26 AM »
I would have to agree with Random. Having two little ones of my own I found myself using the 50 1.4 a lot simply for the speed it offered and the shallow dof (persona preference). About 4 months ago I bought the 35 1.4L and have LOVED this lens. I shoot a 60D and 5DII and l use it on the latter for most of the indoor shoots. I have the 430EX ii and though it is a good flash, I don't like using it unless I have to (again just preference). My wife and I just came back from a vacation and all we took was the 5DII and 35L, no regrets at all.

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Re: Need advice on indoor low light lens choices.
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2012, 11:31:53 AM »
I have the following.
Canon 5d3
24-105
50 1.4
70-200 f4 is

I just bought the 70-200 f4 is for medium telephoto but still want something for better low light shooting. I ran a program to see my most used focal length and came up with 40,50,85,105.

I was looking at the following lenses for the upcoming holidays. Any suggestions?

24-70 mk ii
35 1.4
135mm f2

My suggestion is to buy those 3 lenses.
1DX | 14 2.8L II | 16-35 2.8L II | 24 1.4L II | 24-70 2.8L II | ZE 35 2.0 | ZE 50 2.0 | 85 1.2L II | 100 2.8L IS | 135 2.0L | 70-200 2.8L IS II | 200 F2.0L IS | 300 2.8L IS II | 400 2.8L IS II | 500 4.0L IS

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Re: Need advice on indoor low light lens choices.
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2012, 11:52:06 AM »
I have 5d mkii with 35L, 50 1.8 and 135L. Im really happy with my low light abilities. Only thing id change now is swapping the 50mm 1.8 for the 50mm 1.4 or the sigma 85 1.4. And getting a 16-35L zoom for wider, or maybe holding out for a newer rumored version seeing as I dont have much money left for kit atm. 35, 50 and 135 cover a very nice portrait range, id just like wider for lanscape shots and night sky photos.

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Re: Need advice on indoor low light lens choices.
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2012, 12:01:59 PM »
Never sell the 24-105. Get the 35L, can't be unsatisfied.

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