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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #45 on: September 14, 2012, 10:19:50 AM »
While I'm not in the market for this camera after buying the 5d3, I think you guys are missing the point... everyone griped they wanted an entry level full frame, they got it...  To me, I think this is squarely put right there for those advanced rebel shooters and xxd users who have the option... Do you want to go full frame and get better IQ but NOT want to take out a second mortgage to get the 5d3 or 1dx, OR do you want a 7d (or 7d m2 whenever that comes to fruition).  It's for that person that wants better images without all the fancy bells in whistles... That guy who may want GPS so they can utilize it for social media and the like...  It's no 5d3 but it isn't trying to be either...  While it doesn't get me excited per se, perhaps it would have many moons ago when I was a xxd shooter...  It is what it is, an entry level full frame.  Nothing less, nothing more. 
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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #45 on: September 14, 2012, 10:19:50 AM »

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #46 on: September 14, 2012, 10:21:37 AM »
The specs on this camera have been bugging me this morning, and I finally figured out why. It has nothing to do with a new camera coming out for with less-than-hoped-for specs on a budget FF. It's the implication that a camera body like this is going to called an xD.

Here's my point: For my way of thinking the single-digit Canon line implies a level of build quality and other features that come with a higher end camera. It's not for the average weekend shooter. It's for the serious photog who plans on pair it with some high quality glass to get the best IQ out there possible. The specs for this camera are clearly less than that.

So Canon, let's not call it a 6D. Let's give is a xxD or even an xxxD name. Nobody's going to care if you put out a FF camera that has one of those designations. But let's not dilute the xD line of fine cameras you already have just because it's a FF.

9D? is that a good compromise?  ;D
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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #47 on: September 14, 2012, 10:22:11 AM »
Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but why does one need 60+ autofocus points?  I keep my camera set to the center focus.  Focus, frame.  That's how I learned to operate a camera. Am I doing it wrong?

Aside from the built in  GPS and WiFi, I think the specs make sense.  The rumor has always been an entry level FF camera.  A Rebel FF is an entry level FF camera, is it not?  Why would you expect 5D+ performance?  They already have that, it's called the 5D, which is already way more camera than most people need. 

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #48 on: September 14, 2012, 10:23:09 AM »
Looks fake...  If this is true... Why the heck does Canon spend so much time figuring out ways to cripple their products instead of going and reworking their sensors... >:(
That's like going to McDonald's to complain that their basic hamburger is a "crippled" version of their Big Mac.  You won't get much sympathy (actually, none).  If you want a Big Mac, you have to pay the extra $ that it costs.

What one person sees as "crippled products" is what another person sees as "more affordable products".   Of course, we all want 1DX features at a 5D3 price, and 5D3 features at a 5D2 price, and so on.  But that's not realistic.  In the real world, every product is "crippled" in some way next to its more expensive version.  So Canon offers some 10 different DSLRs, one for almost every budget. 

Anyway, if the rumor is true, then it is a new sensor.  Canon already makes excellent sensors, so how often do they need to "rework" their sensors? 

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #49 on: September 14, 2012, 10:23:40 AM »
This is probably fake, but if true the max price would be $1.5k.

This is the spec for a bare-bones camera that should sell for $1200 USD.    But that wouldn't stop Canon from releasing it at $1899 and offering it with that creaky old 28-135 IS at $2200.
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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #50 on: September 14, 2012, 10:25:11 AM »
I don´t know much about DSLR´s manufacturing process and costs, maybe I´m saying something crazy, but I think Canon maybe can take the 7D and replace the sensor by a FF sensor, and sell it about USD 2100. (Sorry about my english)

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #51 on: September 14, 2012, 10:25:39 AM »
Clearly you are new to this forum. Such rational logic will not be tolerated! :)
Thank you!

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #52 on: September 14, 2012, 10:27:34 AM »
I agree with previous commentators that calling this camera a 70D or 80D would make more sense that using xD nomenclature.

No 17 cross type AF points?

Prepare for failure canon.

Disagree. When the 5DMkII disappears, this will be an appealing camera if upgrading from APS-C, save possibly for 7d owners.

+1 on the above comment, as a 7D owner I wouldn't like to upgrade to this rumored spec for a 6D, but what if Canon's plan is to finally discontinue the 5D2 if/when this camera body was launched?

Any Rebel or xxD owner would be faced with a choice between the new 6D FF or the old tech 7D with little or no upgrade in IQ from what they were previously using. Unless of course, Canon brings out a 7D2 sometime in early-2013 with even better specs for around $2500 price territory. But then the big question arises, will a new 7D still have a crop sensor? Will buyers pay more for APS-C than for FF?

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #53 on: September 14, 2012, 10:29:46 AM »
I waited a few days on ordering a 5d mkiii, I was hoping the new FF might be something great (it's not)..

Time to order that 5d mkiii
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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #54 on: September 14, 2012, 10:30:02 AM »
This new spec list doesn't really excite me. But I want a full frame SO BAD that I very well may end up buying this camera regardless of what AF system/flash sync setting/sensor Canon puts in it.

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #55 on: September 14, 2012, 10:30:20 AM »
then perhaps Rebel-users would be prepared to part with 2 grand for a body like this?
Don't think so... "Rebel-Users" mostly upgrade to something 'bout $900-1500 and I can't see them spending $1999 + Lenses (since most own EF-S-lenses anyway).

The specs also look suspicious to me:
  • Why develop a new Sensor when Canon has three different FF-Sensors available?
  • Why a new 11 Point AF and not the 19 Point AF of the 7D?
  • Why only 1/4000 when even the 60D offers 1/8000?
  • Why only 1/180 when even a 650D offers 1/200 and the 60D offers 1/250?
  • What is an "EOS" Body? One similar to the body of the EOS 650D or one similar to the EOS 1Dx?

I wouldn't trust this source...

Canon needs to develop a new sensor with better IQ + DR + ISO noise performance, but cannot use the 1DX or 5D3 sensor wth higher MP count cos' that might tempt others not to buy those FF bodies (marginal buyers)

An 11 point AF system is an upgrade from the 9-point AF found on Rebel series bodies

The new Nikon D600 is only 1/4000s max shutter speed, so Canon are matching that spec

And as regards max flash shutter speed sync, well perhaps Canon wants users to shell out for the new 430EX II replacement that is coming soon so that they can get HSS that way, so then 1/x sync becomes totally irrelevant

Finally, an EOS body is anything that Canon Marketing want it to be, but you cannot deny that the tech world (inclusing DSLR) is moving smaller, plus CR commentators with gripped 5D3's and the tall-body 1D series cameras often complain about camera weight (lugging body+telephoto lenses around). Also Canon has introduced the EOS-M with an APS-C sized sensor, so the trend is for smaller bodies across the board.



Everyone has different needs and wants. Instead of more electronic gadgetry and sensor esoterics I would like Canon et al to move back to better build quality. What good are optically excellent lenses that are made from plastic and fall apart? Why would I want a body that is creaky and flimsy and too light? Why would I want a viewfinder/rangefinder compact without a viewfinder/rangefinder and a small sensor?

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #56 on: September 14, 2012, 10:30:57 AM »
This is probably fake, but if true the max price would be $1.5k.

I agree.. 1500 MAX!
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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #57 on: September 14, 2012, 10:31:41 AM »
Why are so many doubting the built in wifi?

Heck even cheapo P&S-cameras has build in wifi. It is about time Canon puts it into their DSLRs.

This will be very handy when working in a studio, or for photo journalists who needs to transfer files on the go.

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #57 on: September 14, 2012, 10:31:41 AM »

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #58 on: September 14, 2012, 10:37:33 AM »
Mainly doubt the wifi because canon's history with pro/semi-pro bodies ha been to charge an extra $200 for a little dongle to do it.

If this comes true, I feel like there will still be a big gap between the 6D and 5DIII - i wonder what will go in there?

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #59 on: September 14, 2012, 10:44:00 AM »
I really hope these aren't the actual specs.  The lack of a reasonable AF system could almost drive me to the Nikon D600...   However, while it may just be my bias, I don't feel this is a valid rumor.  It makes a lot more sense to use the 5D3 sensor and 7D focus system.  After all we've seen how Canon loves to reuse parts from other systems.  And quite frankly if they don't do at least that, the D600 will kill them in this price range.

Maybe if they price it at say $1800, that could sell well given these specs.
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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
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