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Re: Correction to 6D Spec - Max Shutter is 1/4000
« Reply #330 on: September 17, 2012, 04:22:36 PM »
Also note the Sync speed is 1/180s.
This camera is now off my list, time to get the 5D2 before they dry up completely.

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Re: Correction to 6D Spec - Max Shutter is 1/4000
« Reply #330 on: September 17, 2012, 04:22:36 PM »

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Re: Correction to 6D Spec - Max Shutter is 1/4000
« Reply #331 on: September 17, 2012, 04:27:15 PM »
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yeah that would probaly save 20$ in production cost.

I highly doubt 20$ is all you save for non alloy body, no GPS and Wireless... This camera is aimed to prosumers that wish to upgrade. Canon need to price it for its targeted audience in order to be successful. Especially Nikon D600 already beats the 6D in most specs, the only way Canon can win in the entry full frame war as it stands is by price.

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Re: Correction to 6D Spec - Max Shutter is 1/4000
« Reply #332 on: September 17, 2012, 04:30:42 PM »
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my phone has GPS, WIFI and bluetooth and costs less then 90 bucks.    ;D

Actually your phone costs much more. Try to buy it as a replacement without warranty, or not as a new customer. The reason you're getting it for 90 bucks is because you signed the multi-year contract. They make money off your service, not your device.

Look at the GPS and Wifi add-ons for Mark iii and how much they cost.

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Re: Correction to 6D Spec - Max Shutter is 1/4000
« Reply #333 on: September 17, 2012, 04:33:34 PM »
As this thing seems to be geared towards the video crowd, it's suprising that it has a touchscreen but not an articulating one...

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Re: Correction to 6D Spec - Max Shutter is 1/4000
« Reply #334 on: September 17, 2012, 04:34:05 PM »
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wifi and gps is what he has quoted.

both features cost next to nothing today compared to the overall price of the camera.

I also stated the possible inclusion of ditching the alloy body and go all plastic. We're going off topic here, the point is Canon needs to find ways to lower the price for the 6D to $1500 to be a WOW factor. I've merely proposed a few ways I thought that are feasible, which I may or may not to be correct, as I'm not in the electronic retail industry.
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Re: Correction to 6D Spec - Max Shutter is 1/4000
« Reply #335 on: September 17, 2012, 04:34:33 PM »
There are new posters who apparently do not know, or are ignoring the Canon model numbering system.  The lower numbers are the better models.  Thus, a 6D falls in between a 7D and a 5D, and its priced that way.  The major cost element is still the sensor.  Drop it to APS-C, and the price could easily drop to $1500.

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« Reply #336 on: September 17, 2012, 04:36:11 PM »
They do.  They are the 1DX and 5D3... everything below those in the line will be "lesser cameras for a lower price".

The problem is that they cripple the "lesser cameras" so that they're not complete packages, but lack certain important features that force users who can cough up to money to "upgrade": no afma on the 60d (worse than 50d, solution 7d upgrade), no cross point af on the 6d @f2.8+ (worse than 5d2, solution 5d3 upgrade), let's see what's next.

This is really the truth. I'm not sure why Canon refuses to compete on a level front with Nikon and Sony. Both companies put GREAT technology in all of their DSLR's, regardless of grade. Obviously there are some key differences, but in general you don't get a hyper-gimped AF system on an entry-level DSLR from Nikon...you get a competitive AF system with multiple cross type points and low-light sensitivity. Why won't Canon COMPETE?! This is getting rather pathetic. Its looking like we will have to wait another full generation before we see high DR sensors or reticular AF in any camera from Canon...let alone in every camera.

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« Reply #336 on: September 17, 2012, 04:36:11 PM »

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Re: Correction to 6D Spec - Max Shutter is 1/4000
« Reply #337 on: September 17, 2012, 04:37:34 PM »
Actually your phone costs much more. Try to buy it as a replacement without warranty, or not as a new customer. The reason you're getting it for 90 bucks is because you signed the multi-year contract. They make money off your service, not your device.

nonsense!
every throw away phone has it today.

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Look at the GPS and Wifi add-ons for Mark iii and how much they cost.


LOL.. not really an argument.

i can buy a dedicated GPS tracker for 19 euros.


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Re: Correction to 6D Spec - Max Shutter is 1/4000
« Reply #338 on: September 17, 2012, 04:40:05 PM »
And your dedicated GPS tracker won't work with your Canon, hence it's cost as such.

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Re: Correction to 6D Spec - Max Shutter is 1/4000
« Reply #339 on: September 17, 2012, 04:42:18 PM »
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nonsense!
every throw away phone has it today.

Yes, they don't make money off your phone, they make it off your service charge.

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Re: Correction to 6D Spec - Max Shutter is 1/4000
« Reply #340 on: September 17, 2012, 04:42:51 PM »
And your dedicated GPS tracker won't work with your Canon, hence it's cost as such.

it proves that the technology costs next to nothing.  ::)

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Re: Correction to 6D Spec - Max Shutter is 1/4000
« Reply #341 on: September 17, 2012, 04:43:33 PM »
Oops thats the original version. To get 1/8000 you need to have some black tape installed.

Just checked DP Review and verified on Canon's own site. The 6D's max shutter speed is 1/4000, not 1/8000 as stated on this site.

Another point: I originally got excite and thought this would make a fine backup to my Mark III. Now I realized this is not for pros, but for prosumers. However $1300 or so more than the 60D and even more for T4i is somewhat out of "upgrade" price range for non pros.

What Canon should have done is releasing this camera without GPS and Wireless. Hell, they could even release the whole thing in plastic (it's currently alloy body and top plate plastic) in order to get the price down to $1500 or so, then they really have a winner on their hands. Most crop factor Canon users will want to upgrade.

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Re: Correction to 6D Spec - Max Shutter is 1/4000
« Reply #342 on: September 17, 2012, 04:45:51 PM »
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nonsense!
every throw away phone has it today.

Yes, they don't make money off your phone, they make it off your service charge.

oh boy... you are wrong donĀ“t make a clown out of yourself.

when i buy a throw away phone for 50 bucks that has GPS and WIFI and that i trash when there is no "charge" on it anymore... what are you arguing about.. you are wrong.. face it.

GPS and WIFI cost next to nothing.. period.

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Re: Correction to 6D Spec - Max Shutter is 1/4000
« Reply #342 on: September 17, 2012, 04:45:51 PM »

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Re: Correction to 6D Spec - Max Shutter is 1/4000
« Reply #343 on: September 17, 2012, 04:48:06 PM »
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it proves that the technology costs next to nothing.  ::)

No it doesn't. It proves how companies makes revenue off technology, so they provide the product to you under cost, or with loss in order to make profit off its service in the long run.

Example, when Play Station 2 released with the new Blue Ray at the time, official disclosure indicated Sony was taking loss of more than $100 to $200 loses on production cost, banking earning revenue via game titles and developer licensing.

In this case, Canon can't make service or revenue off your GPS or WiFi, so they need to price it accordingly to their production cost.

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« Reply #344 on: September 17, 2012, 04:49:41 PM »
They do.  They are the 1DX and 5D3... everything below those in the line will be "lesser cameras for a lower price".

The problem is that they cripple the "lesser cameras" so that they're not complete packages, but lack certain important features that force users who can cough up to money to "upgrade": no afma on the 60d (worse than 50d, solution 7d upgrade), no cross point af on the 6d @f2.8+ (worse than 5d2, solution 5d3 upgrade), let's see what's next.

This is really the truth. I'm not sure why Canon refuses to compete on a level front with Nikon and Sony. Both companies put GREAT technology in all of their DSLR's, regardless of grade. Obviously there are some key differences, but in general you don't get a hyper-gimped AF system on an entry-level DSLR from Nikon...you get a competitive AF system with multiple cross type points and low-light sensitivity. Why won't Canon COMPETE?! This is getting rather pathetic. Its looking like we will have to wait another full generation before we see high DR sensors or reticular AF in any camera from Canon...let alone in every camera.

Agreed.  Canon is finally now releasing the full line up of the next generation after watching for too long... 1DX is great, 5D3 is great but pricey, then boom... the 6D is hobbled into oblivion but too expensive for average consumers and will still be too expensive when the street price comes down to $1600.

It would seem that Canon is absolutely out to ensuring that not a single customer that's on-the-fence between bodies makes the down-choice.

Initial sales might be strong as the first wave of customers who this camera is perfect for buy it... but then I think sales may drop.  That may actually already be happening with the 5D3... pre-orders were strong and the first shipments flew off the shelf... but then last week there was apparently a sale for $2750?  The most likely reason is that Adorama made a large order based on the strong pre-sales and then the bodies didn't move very quickly. 
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Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« Reply #344 on: September 17, 2012, 04:49:41 PM »