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5D3 - problem?
« on: September 26, 2012, 06:27:49 PM »
OK. I will admit I don't know if this is a problem.

I just bought a 5D3 yesterday, and when I pulled it out of the box last night, I noticed I could not turn the mode dial. Is this a problem? Or, is it designed that it won't turn if the camera is not turned on? I did not even put a battery in the camera last night, as I'm not going to start playing with it until the weekend.

I have never had a camera where the mode dial DIDN'T turn when it's turned off, so that's why I'm asking.

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5D3 - problem?
« on: September 26, 2012, 06:27:49 PM »

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Re: 5D3 - problem?
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2012, 06:32:30 PM »
Did you try pushing the mode dial lock release button (center of dial) before turning it?
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Re: 5D3 - problem?
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2012, 06:42:15 PM »
I did.

I tried turning. Nothing. I pushed the button and tried again. Nothing. Pushed the button again and tried it. Nothing.

Not too concerned yet, since I never tried powering it up.

Maybe I'll try powering it up when I get home tonight and trying again. Like I said, it's never happened before but then again this is my first camera of this caliber.

Did you try pushing the mode dial lock release button (center of dial) before turning it?
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Re: 5D3 - problem?
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2012, 06:51:55 PM »
Just to be clear - you must push in the button and hold it in while turning the dial - push and turn, not push then turn.
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Re: 5D3 - problem?
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2012, 06:55:04 PM »
I hate that button.  I've lost a lot of the feeling in my hands and can't easily operate buttons.  In 14 years of using DSLR's. I've never had the dial turn by accident.  I wonder what it might cost to heve it removed ;)

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Re: 5D3 - problem?
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2012, 07:00:24 PM »
No.

I will try it.

If indeed that's how it works, that the button has to be pushed in to turn the dial, then that's the stupidest way of doing things I've ever encountered. Who was the idiot who designed that? The better way would be the button stays depressed (or raised) when it's in lock mode and the opposite when free. But to hold the button to turn the dial? Idiotic.

But I'll reserve my continued raging until I see if that's why I could not turn the dial.

Just to be clear - you must push in the button and hold it in while turning the dial - push and turn, not push then turn.
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Re: 5D3 - problem?
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2012, 07:03:49 PM »
I hate that button.  I've lost a lot of the feeling in my hands and can't easily operate buttons.  In 14 years of using DSLR's. I've never had the dial turn by accident.  I wonder what it might cost to heve it removed ;)

I bought my first 5DMKII in '08 and have two plus a MKIII. I have NEVER turned the mode dial by accident on either MKII.  I don't know if I hate the button on the MKIII, but to me it is definitely more of a hinderance than a help.  I would definitely prefer the camera without it.

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Re: 5D3 - problem?
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2012, 07:08:10 PM »
If indeed that's how it works...

That's how Canon says it works.  So...feel free to start continue raging now, if you like.   :P

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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2012, 03:14:31 PM »
I bought my first 5DMKII in '08 and have two plus a MKIII. I have NEVER turned the mode dial by accident on either MKII.  I don't know if I hate the button on the MKIII, but to me it is definitely more of a hinderance than a help.  I would definitely prefer the camera without it.
I've also used the 5D2 since 2008, but have occasionally accidentally moved the mode dial and have missed photos as a result.  The dial on the 5D2 is not very stiff.  I think the locking dial on the 5D3 (and also on the 60D) is an excellent feature.  It keeps me from accidentally going into Bulb mode (yikes!) or Manual when I thought I was in Av mode.  Having to push the button on the 5D3 feels awkward at first, but quickly becomes second nature.  I don't give it any thought now, and I'm confident that the mode I set will stay set until I decide to change it.  So I do prefer the locking mode dial.

By the way, the locking mode dial was an available upgrade on the 5D2.  Canon started offering this modification in response to requests from photographers.
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Re: 5D3 - problem?
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2012, 04:30:52 PM »
I hate that button.  I've lost a lot of the feeling in my hands and can't easily operate buttons.  In 14 years of using DSLR's. I've never had the dial turn by accident.  I wonder what it might cost to heve it removed ;)
Probably around $100, if they will even do it. That's what they charge to put the lock button on a 5D2 or 7D.

BTW, I like the locking dial. I don't worry about it moving when I pull up my 100-400 hanging by my hip on a BR 7 strap. I've only done it a few times but it does kill all the shots until you notice what has happened  >:(
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Re: 5D3 - problem?
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2012, 05:42:09 PM »
I like the button.  I primarily work in Av, and while it hasn't happened to me a lot, I've accidentally switched my 7D to M -- which frequently use for long exposures -- when pulling it out of my sling backpack.  This means I've exposed my sensor to entirely too much light at long exposure times and risking damage (yes, I know... call me overly cautious).

I normally use my thumb and middle finger to switch modes, so pressing down with my index finger in the middle is much less of a hassle than accidentally taking a shot in M with the shutter set at 30".  I usually have to shut the camera off and back on since I'd rather not wait the full 30 seconds.  The lock button has never caused me to miss a shot, but the camera being in the wrong mode definitely has.

Just my $0.02.

Now cue the hecklers telling me to better operate my camera.  ;-)
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Re: 5D3 - problem?
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2012, 08:26:23 PM »
Truthfully, I hadn't (still haven't) had a chance to sit down and read through the manual. Doubtless had I done so I would have seen that.

I still think it's dumb.

If indeed that's how it works...

That's how Canon says it works.  So...feel free to start continue raging now, if you like.   :P
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Re: 5D3 - problem?
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2012, 08:53:52 PM »
While I don't believe the button is necessary, it hasn't bothered me at all. What bothered me was going from shooting with the 5D Mark II then the 1DX for work and then 5D III. I keep trying to press drive and metering buttons on the left side. :P

The button shouldn't have to be depressed very deeply, in fact it should turn smoothly with a light tap of the button. If it doesn't then take it back to the shop.

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Re: 5D3 - problem?
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2012, 10:04:46 PM »
+1 for the button.  I had the 5D2 and while it didn't happen a lot, I did on occasion bump the dial.  I shot a wedding with the 5D3 this past weekend.  The church was very unevenly lit and I needed two different exposure and focus setups for the different areas of the room. I also needed to be able to quickly switch back and forth between those settings depending on which way the lens was pointing.  I set up custom settings under C1 and C2 modes, and switched between them throughout the ceremony as needed.  It was an absolutely smooth and effortless operation.

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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2012, 10:53:27 PM »
I love the button. My 7D's button would turn WAY too easily. I also like the design as opposed to the lock on the Elan 7 which turns with the dial. Smart move Canon.

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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2012, 10:53:27 PM »