Here’s what the anonymous grapevine has sent us over the 8 weeks
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Macros are optimized for flat field performance of a two dimensional subject at MFD. Most portraitists desire smooth bokeh at considerably longer subject distances. The two characteristics are oppositional in terms of design decisions. Flat field correction tends to make bokeh harsh. Lenses with smooth bokeh tend to have field curvature, which is anathema for macro work.
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Which is exactly why they wouldn't release both at the same time. Stagger the releases by a year or so and more customers will buy both instead of deciding on one or the other if both are released simultaneously.
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Here's my 2 cents on that second body: The R6 Mark III will inherit the R3 stacked 24 MP sensor, just like the original R6 shared the 1Dx Mark III 20 MP sensor, along with a newer DIGIC processor.
It will drop the eye-control AF and the touch AF control button and use lower resolution EVF than what you get in the R3 in order to save on component cost and allow Canon to demand higher price for the R3 until that model gets its update in 2025.
It might still not come at the same $2500 initial MSRP of the R6 and R6 II but it will be highly competitive in its price segment and ready to slug it out with the Nikon Z6 III when that model come out later in the summer.
People might say no way Canon can afford to offer a stacked sensor in a R6 prosumer body but then Fujifilm has been offering the X-H2s with a stacked sensor for 2 years now and for Canon it would be even cheaper since they already had that sensor in their parts bin for 3 years now and recovered most of their R&D expenses from selling the R3 at $6K since 2021.
Either that, or expect fire sale on the R3 in the range of $3K a pop by the time Black Friday rolls in.
It will drop the eye-control AF and the touch AF control button and use lower resolution EVF than what you get in the R3 in order to save on component cost and allow Canon to demand higher price for the R3 until that model gets its update in 2025.
It might still not come at the same $2500 initial MSRP of the R6 and R6 II but it will be highly competitive in its price segment and ready to slug it out with the Nikon Z6 III when that model come out later in the summer.
People might say no way Canon can afford to offer a stacked sensor in a R6 prosumer body but then Fujifilm has been offering the X-H2s with a stacked sensor for 2 years now and for Canon it would be even cheaper since they already had that sensor in their parts bin for 3 years now and recovered most of their R&D expenses from selling the R3 at $6K since 2021.
Either that, or expect fire sale on the R3 in the range of $3K a pop by the time Black Friday rolls in.
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Since I liked the EG-E1 on the R8 so much, I looked around for something similar for the R7. Someone created a 3d printable model that I slightly modified to use stock fasteners:
Printables
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That made it a lot more useable with the 100-500L for me. Much better ergonomics!
My DSLR before I went into the R system was an original 7D, so the R5 in crop mode was pretty much the same resolution, but useable beyond ISO 400!
For me, it’s not so much about reach, I really want all the MPs I can get when focus stacking. I would have preferred a 60MP R5II, but a 45 MP with a faster sensor is a very, very close second.
I wonder if Canon gives us a way to use IBIS multishot (RAW!!!) in combination with focus stacking.
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That's interesting. Why do they do that? At least as many macro subjects are three dimensional as flat; is it inherent in being able to focus that close? The EF 100L has seen a fair amount of use for portraiture but I'm not expert enough in that genre to judge the quality.
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Will you open a page to talk about Nikon camera selling in 2023 and they use 85 millions to buy Red.
Can make a graph to compare Canon and Nikon selling units.
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That was exactly my point. If I can come up with it in few seconds then canon or some other people definitely thought of it too
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Nice summary of insights. For me, this is a pretty disappointing cycle of releases. There will be lots of bits for others but I am still hoping for higher MP, wider and faster UWAs and improved DR (even if incremental). It seems the landscape community has been left at the curb for another cycle.
I was hoping for something in the 60 MP+ range, something in the 12mm wide or wider and faster than f2.8 range. Neither is rumored and who knows how much longer it will be (if ever) before those opportunities are addressed natively.
Oh well, I can save my money for mods to my vehicle so that I can go further off road when the time comes!
I was hoping for something in the 60 MP+ range, something in the 12mm wide or wider and faster than f2.8 range. Neither is rumored and who knows how much longer it will be (if ever) before those opportunities are addressed natively.
Oh well, I can save my money for mods to my vehicle so that I can go further off road when the time comes!
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Some stuff would obviously not happen (lack of IS) but I don't think weather sealing, good AF, a flash, and a fast sensor are niche...Hmm no, not on me
The above are very specific niche requirements. A good phone would cover that as an 'always on me' camera.
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I would be very interested in the 24-70mm F2 (basically a mkii follow-up) IF Canon is able to cut a bunch of weight. I am not pleased with the RF 24-105mm F4 L and therefore I could sell the lens and the RF 85mm F2 (and maybe the RF 35mm F1.8) to at least partially fund the 24-70mm F2. Plus, it would help a lot not having to switch lenses all the time.
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Same here.
I didn't like ma RF 24-105 F4, a good lens, but I expected more. Whenever I thought of using it, I ended putting primes into my bag. Optically, the difference in quality was too high.
But if the 24-70 F2 is as good, but lighter than the 28-70 F2, it will get a place in my "mountain bag".
Whether optically or software corrected, I don't care if the result convinces...
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Remember @lenssoddomist ? I think he an rf 1200mm from his family.My wife permitting?
You've just spoiled my evening...
On the other hand, leica M lenses are so small the can go undetected by familiar spies, unlike the monstrous Canon Rfs. .
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I believe that's more design theory than the reality of every person's usage. Consider two points:
if you have a macro subject that is not flat, it doesn't matter as much - it also doesn't matter that much if you're tightening the aperture or using focus stacking.
Not everyone is so particular about boke - if it saves them from carrying (AND BUYING!) one more lens, I expect it's not a few people willing to use a macro for portraits.
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