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The French seem to think so!
The following is a link to a french blog in which the writer claims to have been told to expect a 1D4 announcement in October.
Read More: http://www.shots.fr/2009/09/27/……
The link is in french.
Google Translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?….
Thanks Bocquet
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1st paragraph:
It’s been talked about for a while, with the most contradictory roumors. Beginning of September it was Jeff Brehm, sports photographer in the US who slips some info on a forum: ‘I can’t tell you who told me… but an insider (…) told me last week that the new Canon Mark IV arrives next month.’ On the forum, other members discuss a bit, Jeff’s been asked where he’s received the information and in the next message he confirmed: ‘I’d prefer not to tell. We talked about it openly in the conversation, saying that that’s why we’ve begun to see the price of second hand Mark IIIs drop, but I’m not sure the guy would be comfortable with me attributing that info to him.’ A week ago, the roumor resurfaced and confirms the announcement, at the end of Octobre, of an EOS 1D Mark IV body with 16MP, APS-H, 12 fps. And at this point, one can begin to think that we’d like to believe this.
2nd paragraph
I pick up my phone. I call a potential source, usually up to date for what concerns the photography market. I tell him about the reports I’ve gather here on Shots, and inevitably we talk about switching; the sensitive subject matter pops up again. I ask my interlocutor: ‘According to you, is there a large number of photographers who have switched from Canon to Nikon these last two years?’ After an embarrassed silence, the answer is as dry as [esoteric]: ‘[It’s nothing to say that] / [It’s not worth mentioning] / [It’s obvious] [??]’ Good, so that’s done. It’s a reality, one which without a doubt upsets the aficionados of the red brand, but Canon has lost territory to Nikon who, objectively, has a much more readable position than it’s historic rival.
Thus I suggest [to my interlocutor] the hypothetical release of a new top-of-the-line item from Canon, a successor of the current 1D which could bring things back into balance, but the release date of which would be next spring. My interlocutor says: ‘It will be well before then.’ Whoa! There’s a piece of news that Canon photographers have been waiting for for a while. To be clear, Canon [must/will] ‘announce a new pro body during or at the end of October.’ Whilst I’m surprised about this news which contradicts other reports predicting the announcement rather for March 2010, I receive another info form a second source: ‘Nikon plans a similar announcement at the end of October.’ One thing may eplain the other. Thus, if I summarize. An announcement of a new pro body from Canon during or at the end of October.’ At the Salon de la Photo in Paris, starting October 15th, we’ll be there, my iPhone and me, to twitter the info and images live from the Salon. Or perhaps at the PhotoPlus Expo in New York (22nd to 24th October) or even at the London Canon Pro Photo Solution (27th and 28th October).
Keep up the good work Gloda. Pretty accurate so far.
Looking forward to test it !
Recently I found 1D body price dropped worldwide, especially online trading/shop. Also I found lots camera shops start to having 1D body in display (use to be only Camera Pro shop carry it). Maybe Canon start to push all stock out?
Maybe its good time to buy 1D Mk III?
Gloda, any news please let us know ASAP !
“‘According to you, is there a large number of photographers who have switched from Canon to Nikon these last two years?’ After an embarrassed silence, the answer is as dry as [esoteric]: ‘[It’s nothing to say that]/ [It’s not worth mentioning] / [It’s obvious]”
Canon must really indeed not care about switchers and upgraders to full frame moving to Nikon if the new 1D Mark IV will be APS-H. The huge gaping hole in Canon’s product line of a 7D-like camera (better autofocus than the 5D Mark II!) but full frame will remain unfilled, and more Nikon D700’s will be sold. Nikon must be laughing at Canon’s inability to drop APS-H and only sell professional autofocus and full frame in what will be an überexpensive 1Ds Mark IV.
Sounds good except for the crop sensor. There are more of us wedding guys than magazine shooters and we want a FAST focusing, low noise, rugged full frame camera! I use 1D MarkIII
cameras now and for the most part they are wonderful… but I’d like a little more resolution and a wider field of view. 16MP on a full frame sensor with really low noise at iso2000 would be the answer to a lot of problems I face on a regular basis. Yes, the 5D MkII is a great camera but once you get used to a 1D series there is no going back a slower tool.
I still don’t believe in APS-H, Canon can do better.
The site is not rendering correctly on my computer for the last couple of days. I am running IE6 becasue I am at work, and they won’t get with the 90’s.
As for the quote in 2nd paragraph, I understand it in French to mean a rather clear acceptance of a big number of pro photogs who have switched. Something like “What you say is nothing [compared to reality]”
“once you get used to a 1D series there is no going back a slower tool.”
exactly… So that next 1D better be FF… I will buy it even if it’s stil APS-H but a FF camera make much more sense now that the 7D is around…
The D300-D300s story appears to be a good sign of what to expect from Canon. Big companies have their own sources and will always know ahead in quite some detail what the main competitors are going to release. Hence the decision to update the D300 with the S version to add video, which makes it on par at least with the 7D.
Now they hurry up to release a D3s (and not a D4, it’s too early for that), essentially adding video and a few minor tweaks. To stay competitive. Whith what? Only the 1D4 comes close to what could compete with the D3s and the latter’s release in October is a very high probability as per NikonRumors and other rumors sites. So it is very likely we will see a 1D4 this October.
Last §:
Canon EOS 1D Mark IV, a look at the specs
As for features, very few things emerge for the new EOS 1D Mark IV. Most of the informations gathered from the web are more a whishlist rather than a sound feature list. Some, like the captor size remain unknow as of today. It looks like we would end with a “reasonabled”-sized captor, 16MPix APS-H, but other seems to think about a Full Frame sensor. Will Canon jump the bridge and provide the EOS 1D Mark IV with a Full Frame sensor or will the APS-H stays on the line ? Today, with the current technological improvements, what can justify an APS-H sized sensor ? Nikon on the other hand didn’t bother with this question, and simply put a FF sensor on its three pro-DSLRs. What seems to be certain however is a brand new autofocus module, a 12fps burst with 14bits, and vast improvements in the video capabilities. Speaking of video, the Digic V seems to be optimized in this departement compared to the previous ones, giving the opportunity to deliver 60 images per second at a 1080p resolution. Surely something to give to fans of that.
The annoucement of a brand new high level camera from Canon is surely not a false joke, especially in the current context. This annoucement is expected, hoped by many photographers. It’s, in my opinion more than just an announcement, it’s a restart, a rebirth, a small october revolution. It’s also the way to get a clean start after various misfortunes from the red company. And, for what its worth, the EOS 1D Mark IV is the camara i’m waiting for. And judging form the various comments i’ve been having here on Shots, i’m not the only one hoping so. Patience my friends, we are nearly there.
After an embarrassed silence, the answer is as dry as [esoteric]: ‘[It’s nothing to say that] / [It’s not worth mentioning] / [It’s obvious] [??]‘ Good, so that’s done.
Sybiline is much like “ironic”
As for the comment, “C’est rien de le dire” is used as a figure de style, and in this case it means “it’s an understatement”. Considering then that Canon acknoledges that they lost many Pro photographers over the last few months.
Sounds like more rumor mongering. I am glad to hear that the rumors keep pointing to APS-H for the 1D IV as it doesn’t need full frame for what this camera is used for. An October release would be cool but I realistically don’t expect to see it until early next year.
Poll
Question: What do you really want?
A Full Frame 1D4 – 23 (57.5%)
A APS-H 1.3 crop 1D4 – 10 (25%)
A APS-C 1.6 crop 1D4 – 1 (2.5%)
I don’t care as long its 15 FPS – 2 (5%)
I have a 500D, why do I need a 1D4? – 4 (10%)
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All these people are fool and don’t know what they are talking about? I don’t believe it. So more than twice of these people want the next 1D to be FF, that includes me because not only birders and sport shooter use a 1D.
Canon should stop this APS-H non-sense, and go FF with ID4. APS-H leaves you neither here nor there with wide lenses.
Why is it “too early” for a D4? I tell you why: Nikon can’t make their own sensors.
It is hardly a scientific poll. Do the same poll on a differnt forum and the results might very well be different. Regardless, polling forum gearheads is hardly an accurate method of establishing a real preference amoung the intended user base and the above results are suspect at best.
If you would like to trot out polling information I recommend you pick a reliable source for your information and one that is done with acceptable statistical methodologies.
Sincerely I would prefer that Canon keeps exploring more the APS-H format than packing and stuffing more megapixels in the diminutive APS-C sensors, the 7D is a moronic camera made for Dpreview users (MOAR MEGAPICKLES GROOOOWL)rather than a real solution for real photographic needs, noise is stupidly high even at ISO 100 (shadow noise), diffraction arrives too soon (when you start seeing diffraction at f/8 it isn´t funny), you now pay premium for a something many don´t care (video),etc.
I hate to say it but Nikon will do fairly well thanks to their conservative approach, Sony is taking lead (A850, A900) thanks to this conservative approach too, focusing R&D into things photographers need (good image quality, good performance, good AF system, etc.) rather than in gimmicks.
“EOS 1D Mark IV body with 16MP, APS-H, 12 fps”
Let’s be honest, this would have been 1D Mark III “N”, released a year ago. As for NOW, I expect no less than revolution this time from Canon after that long time period, something similar like they did with the 7D, which has pro features, but at the 1-series level. Something, which will be competitive.
looking at the 7d. I believe that canon will introduce an 18MP 1d mark IV that allows downscaling.
My un-named source says that this has driven a lot of traffic to their website, and this was the reason they did it. I asked my cat, who looked at me with distain – so I take it as true.
check out dHitman on dpreview forums, his last post dated 28 XII 2008, he said no pro cameras form canon for the next 12 month, ie not in 2009
reminds me of probabilities in mandlian genetics.
they thought that MOAR is better. can you blame them after having spread the MOAR philosophy
1) It’s NOT moronic if the 7D has better image quality than 10 MP 40D
2) Diffraction at f/8 is hardly noticeable
3) Nikon and Sony are bleeding financially even as we speak. At least Canon is in the black.
4) Sony is hardly conservative. They jump onto the 24 MP FF bandwagon even before they can tame the high ISO noise beast.
5) Wait till Nikon releases an 18 MP D400. Then you’ll have eat some crow to eat.
If you want this little new camera from Canon it’s probably due to it’s attractive body and small size, something Canon has done well in the past and managed to improve upon in the SD780 IS. If those two things are topping your list, don’t bother reading this review. You’ve succeeded in finding a tiny, attractive little camera that can go just about anywhere. If quality and features also matter, it’s more of a mixed bag. As usual, when you make a camera this small, the form factor means sacrifices in more practical areas. Nonetheless, Canon does
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