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From an email
“A sports shooter in the Netherlands told me that his agency has tested a new camera for Canon. It was still in a Mark III housing, but the inside was changed. Next week canon will send him two updates of the camera and a 7D.”
Lots of reports of 1D testing going on like gangbusters. Still looks like a 2010 announcement.
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If they are still testing it, then they must not be totally happy that the new autofocus put in the 7D is up to par.
and the moon must be made of cheese too
What?
…… a new 1D in a markIII body eh? maybe they’re gearing up to retrofit current mark3 owners to mark4 lol.. ok ok enough with the dreaming
This jives with what I was told by a Canon representative at IBC last week. When I asked if the 1D Mark IV would be out soon, he hinted that I would still need to wait quite a while. He was more positive about another software update for the 5D Mark II though. They were demonstrating the 7D at the show and were very proud to showing off its manual capabilities and switchable frame rates and resolutions for video. Quite a change from their earlier intransigence about full automatic mode for video on the 5D Mark II! But when I asked about some other missing features, like confidence monitoring for the audio, I was told by the Canon representative that if they put professional features like that in their photo cameras they wouldn’t sell as many video cameras. This confirms what many of us thought already about Canon.
By the way, they had a 50mm f1.2 lens on the 7D at the show, and attempted to demonstrate the focus by facial recognition feature in live view. The camera recognized the faces (by marking them with rectangular outlines) but didn’t achieve focus on them.
No. It simply shows how meticulous Canon is.
To be fair, reps don’t often know everything top executives in Japan are thinking and planning.
My response to a rep saying they could not put pro video features on the DSLR because it would hurt their video line would be “aren’t you already hurting your video line by not updating it to solid state or full HD? Right now the 5D2 is their BEST video camera.”
more thorough testing is definitely a better thing, I’m pretty sure Canon is making every effort to avoid the 1D III AF fiasco. It must’ve been a huge shame on them in addition to the strong competition of Nikon D3 (FF bigger sensor, higher res and latest features).
With 7D creating such a giant buzz, I don’t think Canon’s gonna release 1D4 to steal its thunder, not until before PMA.
Canon’s getting smart now, they beat their competing product one after another, 7D is squarely targeting D300s; then next year 1D4 will beat D4, etc. etc.
None of Canon cameras can focus…bwahahahahaha
Testing may or may not be about functionality (ie AF accuracy/functionality). Depending on where they are in the development cycle it may be just market validation (confirming form/fit/function etc). So still testing does not necessarily imply they are unhappy with anything. Especially in the SW dev cycle: rapid prototyping can delivery features until almost the last minute (golden masters, factory loading, final screen testing etc still takes 2-4 weeks)
by far!!!
I hope they revamp their video line with their own RED killer!!
I must be lucky because my 4 Canon cameras are pretty good at focus ;-)
Unless I need eyes surgery…
this whole focusing thing has gotten wildly out of hand, and I believe it to be promulgated most heavily by people who don’t understand how to use a camera properly or in fact don’t use Canon DSLRs at all.
my Canon 30D has relatively ancient AF but the only times it struggles with focus is with Sigma lenses. I still love their bang for the buck but the AF speed tends to leave something to be desired.
unless you’re attempting to shoot BIF while simultaneously running, I think you’ll find the AF pretty sturdy.
they probably want to see how people react to the 7D AF first and see if any issues pop up before release the 1D4 (which will probably use the 7D AF system with a few extras like more f/2.8 points and f/8 AF).
7D is 19 point AF. 1 series has been 45 point since the 1V film model, number of points won’t be decreasing, in fact, likely to be going up slightly. thus while it almost certainly uses the same technology as the 7D it is far more complex, having more points and wider coverage, therefore more wrinkles to be ironed out. Canon will not repeat 1D mk III AF fiasco, it killed their PR in the sports shooting world, who had been their strongest supporter until the D3…
Like you said, it all depends what you’re doing with. For my use it’s pretty good. It’s true that 5DII could be a bit quicker, but shooting action with it’s not the main purpose of the camera.
I used to dream of a 50mm f1.2 lens. I tried it once, and was never able to have tack sharp focus with AF.
I really wonder if it is a known limitation of Canon’s f2.8 crosstype points. Or the lens motor is not precise enougth. Can someone tell?
That is why I laughted when looking at the official photo samples of the 7D… how many 50 f1.2 lenses did they put aside ?
“That is why I laughted when looking at the official photo samples of the 7D… how many 50 f1.2 lenses did they put aside ?” Probably had them calibrate for one another. so not that many, there is the issue that the lens is supposed to work out of the box… but the fact of the matter remains that many people do have good 50 f/1.2 lenses that regularly produce sharp shots. A lot of the ones that perform poorly (there are a LOT more of these than there should be) can be fixed with AF calibration, either in camera, or as a service adjustment.
Ditto on the “depends what you’re doing with it” statement.
I frequently sell a burst of sports action images because of the “cool” factor. If photo two and six are out of focus I loose the sale of the string… so instead of selling 6 images I might sell one… When it means money out of your pocket for an expensive camera body AND that body doesn’t perform… that’s a double hit to the wallet, one that someone trying to survive on solely on photographic income cannot afford.
As soon as I heard there were “problems” with the autofocus on the Mark 3 I stayed away. I even considered a wholesale swap to the Nikon D3 but the Nikon people are such “niceholes” that it pains me to even think I considered that.
My problem being I have a 40D and I just dont want to upgrade to a newer camera before every issues is fixed.
40D => no micro-calibration.
And my problem is that I have a 40D that cannot autofocus properly. I’ve had all the lenses calibrated, the body calibrated and the lenses calibrated to the body in three separate returns to Canon service. It still did not work properly: it cannot focus on blue or green things, only red things–seriously.
The body is back with Canon now; a fourth attempt in ten months to get it right. I fully expect them to claim it is OK (yet again), for it not to work properly (yet again) and for a fifth round of servicing. However, they told me that if it doesn’t work this time, they’ll “consider” a replacement. I’m hoping they’ll have a spare 7D knocking about the office that day. ;-)
Odd conclusion. Did you think they would use the same af-system? Only Nikon does that, and that company is bleeding like a stabbing victim on warfarin.
Stands to reason that at a sufficiently low f-stop focusing will become harder. Sure you have more light, but with a very low f-stop the depth of field is going to get to a point where there will only be a very small part of the image where there is a contrasting edge for the focus to latch on to, and any movement backwards and forwards is going to make things worse.
Now whether this happens at f1.2 I don’t know, but I expect that it’s easier to focus with the 50mm f/1.4
The 50mm L lenses really are a waste of $,£
or they can make a DSLR RED killer.
The whole reason people love the 5D2 for video is because of the lenses and the non-video look you get with them. Coming out with a new camcorder is going to be like “so what?” if it doesn’t give me what the DSLR’s can. So they make another $4000 prosumer camcorder and give it 4K output, I’m not going to buy it when I can get better looking video from the 5D2 even if it is only 1080p.
It doesn’t stand to reason at all. Stick an f/8 lens on your non-1D body and let us know how your theory works out for you.
Or how badly they got burned, perhaps?
Not that I have any f1.2 lenses (I wish), but surely the advantage is not that they have a wider aperture, but they’ll get sharper at wider apertures as you stop down?
A good resource about lens design, compromise between resolution and max aperture is Erwin Puts’s website on Leica lens designs :
http://www.imx.nl/photo/index.html
A f/1.4 lens should be sharper than a f/1.2 lens @ f/1.4. Unfortunately, Canon does not achieve that.
Additionally, you can calculate how shallow is your lens on this site :
http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html
A f/1.2 lens is not something impossible to use.
Anyway, Leica recently released a Noctilux f/0.95 lens, and Voigtlander is selling a Nokton (I love those names!) f/1.1.
End of October…1D Mark IV.
Has anyone heard of a new 1Ds Mrk 4 from Canon? I’m looking at buying a new 1D but I would rather wait if a Canon are coming out with a new 1D.
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