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Canon 60D Specs [CR1]

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From Canonista via DPReview
A spanish sites claims to have the specs for the upcoming 60D.

Specifications:
18mp
6.3fps
DIGIC IV
24p & 30p HD (It lists 36fps, I'm assuming typo)
Announced February 4, 2010.

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  • the main feature of the 7D is the autofocus system and the weather sealing, and they won’t implement these into the 60D, so i don’t see why 60D couldn’t be 18mp. (sorry for my english)

  • I can’t see why it wouldn’t be 18MP in terms of differentiating the 60D from the 7D, after all Canon made the 500D (T1i) 15MP -the same as the 50D.
    The question I would raise is: would a single Digic IV chip have enough processing power to do 18MP @ 6.3fps? The 50D does this frame rate @ 15MP with a Digic IV and the 7D needs two of them to do 8 fps.

  • I’m pretty sure 60D will have 18 mp. Canon has always increased it with each X0D model(with the exception of 30D which I consider as an upgraded 20D). Can’t wait for the press release and the first reviews.

  • awesome. i’d pay $500 less for those. the af works fine enough for me on my 400d, and i don’t get my cameras wet (and don’t want the extra weight.)

    better yet, tell them to get a 24-70mm 2.8 with IS and i’ll get a 5d mk2.

    come on canon, i’m trying to give you my money – get with it!

  • jeez…I´d love to see canon jumping off the megapixel bandwagon. improving the 15mp sensor that´s the way to go… :(

  • I think 50D had Digic IV, 15mp and 6.3 fps, how come the same processor produces more MP with the same frame rate??

  • Looks realistic and made up.

    To put it simply, if somebody had real specs and knew the real deal, s/he would have posted additional info and details rather than “bare bones” specs that can be guessed with a reasonable level of certainty based on the previous models.

  • New lens is coming up, I cannot tell you more at the time. Good enough rumour for you? Geez, what is it with people and insatiable need for unsubstantiated rumors and gossip.

  • How strange.. I saw him say he’s eagar to move to 60i, and that seems a much more logical step forward.

    No codecs I know of (including top end ones) even support 36fps so I’ll be suprised if Canon put it in their cameras.

    Premiere Pro and Sony Vegas don’t even do 36fps playback :S

  • I highly doubt we’ll see a 60D so soon. However, they have to introduce something that can battle against the D90, so maybe it really will be here in February.

    18 megapixels and 6.5fps with one, IV processor? The 7D needs 2, so I think/hope it will have less than 18 megapixels.

  • No kidding.

    What are we allowed to talk about here Michal? Could you write up a list of acceptable topics?

  • Keeping the Digic IV name doesn’t meam that it’s exactly the same as the earlier Digic IVs, after all it’s just a kind of processor. Intel keep increasing clock frequency without changing the name, and Canon certainly do the same.

    Also, Canon might use some simplified algortithms to make things faster in a 60D compared to a 7D, which might mean slightly lower quality JPGs or some other feature they sacrifice to avoid using dual processors.

    Anyway, this is CR1 and even that seems a bit high. I’d expect (or at least hope for) a 60D soon, but introduction tomorrow when nobody else has heard about that date seem weird.

  • nonsense as long as the noise stays the same or improves with more megapixels its a improvement and thus worth it.

  • i wouldnt mind 60 fps to be honest ive always seen differences up to 60 fps and it anoys me while watching movies that i can see frames skip if the subject is fast moving.

  • Yeah I think we’re heading that way, especially for action movies. It looks great at 60fps on my 7D, especially when you get slow-mo at half-rate.

  • if it`s 15mp then it will probably have a better iq than the 7d which doesn`t make any sense. I think it will be 18 mps.

  • Please provide some technical specs to prove your claim. I’m not saying that you are wrong but please back your claim with some data.

  • it`s already the 4th of february in some countries. So when will the announcement take place?

  • Why in the world would he want 60i???? That makes no sense on so many levels.

    He wanted 48 (p).

    Digic 4 can probably only do about 5.2fps, at most, at 18.1MP.

    Digic 4 is digic 4 they don’t make them at different clock rates.

  • depends on where the announcement will be made if its in europe its between 9 hours from the time of my post and 25ish hours from now.

  • nice never known that the 7d already did 60 fps i shall look into that and see what reso it does it 60 fps maby with worth saving more and tossing in the extra cash then.

  • I am looking forward to the 24-70L II IS announcement too, just for the meltdowns. I could see it now, lots of posts about how a $1,800 lens is too expensive.

    If anything, it will elicit more reaction than the 60D announcement. Kind of like the 70-200L II announcement part II.

  • I agree, it would be really great if they just stayed at 15mp and just increased the ISO capabilities. It would be even crazier if Canon would jump down to 12mp and have a HUGE jump in ISO capabilities, but we know it is not happening.

  • Yep if the AF between shots is controlled in the 1v processor, then simpler AF takes less time to process between the shots so maybe 6.3 fps. But i don’t really beleive this just yet.

  • you idiots…. print a few images and you will see that noise ist not a problem with the 7D and 18MP. only the anal focused pixelpeeper here making such a fuss about noise. idiots…… take some shots and dont bother about noise…..you morons.

  • We dont really NEED less noise. That’s just newbie garbage. I can get fine prints with ISO12,800. Don’t be such a spoiled digital kid.

  • What is it that everybody seems to have against increased detail?

    Have you seen how much more detail the 7D gives compared to say the 40D?

    If you want 8/10/12 megapixels, there are already plenty of cameras to choose from.

  • I love it how everyone just *knows* stuff like that.

    I mean not even Canon’s engineers would know that unless they had actually tested it properly. The number of people in the world who could know stuff like that amounts to what, like 10?

  • Don’t you see a difference between discussing an actual rumour (no matter how it is defined) and between a hissy fit demanding that a new rumour was to be made up because somebody doesn’t like the old one?

  • I doubt that the 6.3fps limit of the 50D have anything to do with the Digic IV, its more about the shutter and mirror mechanisms. And I am pretty sure that Canon will have improved on the Digic IVs. It will be the same logic, but maybe created with a finer process (like Intel currently going from 45nm to 32nm process), allowing higher clock rates, thus allowing 18MP at somewhere around 6fps.

  • you must be a GREAT photographer – never even have to worry about quality! just snap pictures and they’re always perfect!

  • I doubt Canon will do any announcements at midnight in Caledonia… ;-)

    Its 8 AM in Tokyo at the moment, so IF there really is an announcement and IF they do it in Japan you will at least have to wait another two hours.
    But IIRC they usually announce new products during afternoons in Europe.

  • i need an 2nd camera and have been waiting for months. im considering the 7D but people have split opinions on it, some say it sucks and some says its very good. so which is it really??? my choices will probably be between the 60D and 7D. for the 7D users out there, your input will really be appreciated. thanks!

  • Again the stupid (and flase) idea that more pixels means lower iq…

    Just have a look at the 7D pictures and stop repeating what you read somewhere else…

  • Cameron goes into detail on the frame rate issue in the most recent Creative Screenwriting magazine podcast in an interview he did jointly with Peter Jackson. Worth listening to if you’re a movie geek. It’s still right at the top of the list at the iTunes store (free), but it should also be available from the magazine website.

    I believe he was mainly referring to 48fps, and as also mainly referring to CG imaging for smoother rendering of motion, but obviously some “live” footage is almost always needed to composite with that and should be at a matching frame rate.

    As for the 60D rumor overall, I thought Canon was ditching the X0D series. Seems to me this would only cannibalize 7D sales. I have two 40D’s that are still going strong and are in fact already overkill since 97% of my work is for web publications and PowerPoint type uses. I’ve been saving pennies for a 7D for a while because the 40D’s are getting old and my clients could use short snippets of video from my assignments, but I seriously doubt the price difference between the 7D and a 60D would be worth the hit you’d undoubtedly take on features. But if Canon is stupid enough to make a camera that is very nearly as good for $500 less (presume it will price slightly higher than the 50D) . . . I guess I’ll take it.

  • assuming the sensor technology is constant (same as of the 7d) , more pixels mean lower iq. and there is nothing stupid or false with this basic fact.

  • No its not. Not by a long shot. Perhaps you could argue that higher pixel density = higher noise at same ISO, but then you’d have to say that lower IQ = higher noise, meaning that the sole characteristic of IQ is noise… excluding sharpness, level of detail, dynamic range and so on.

  • My point exactly. What’s the use of gazillion gigabytes of ram, multiple cores and whatnot when they don’t really matter in the real world.

    You haven’t made a print yet, have you? I smell a rebel user.

  • +1 :)
    Seriously, don’t believe the stuff you read – go out, rent one, if you can’t beg for one for a few hours, and see for yourself. This camera kicks ass – not in the 5DMkII league IQ wise, but close.

  • The problem I consider with having more MP: What is the optimal 1.6x sensor to be used for making large prints of landscapes where depth of field and sharpness are equally important?

    My 12MP camera does a pretty good job in the f/8-11 range when I’m printing 11×14’s. Beyond that, it’s hit and miss. The quality is sometimes questionable at 16×20 probably due to the 12MP sensor. I haven’t printed any 24×36 posters yet, though I’ve been meaning to.

    So for me personally, and what I shoot and print, I think 15MP might be ideal. Slightly more diffraction limited, but capable of larger prints, so maybe it would make up for it? I don’t know. I would love to see a large poster print from a 7D of a landscape.

    Some people say to just shoot sRAW or whatever, but I wonder if that would really change the diffraction limitations.

    The 5DII would probably be ideal for me, but in the meantime I’m going to wait and see what the 60D has to offer before I decide on my next camera.

  • I’m all for new rumors to fuel my gossip needs, the comment was made in all good fun. Regardless, posts get sidetracked and off-topic. It was made to fuel some interest in some potential new EF lens, which usually do not get as much attention as they truly deserve at press annoucements!

  • Yeah I agree with the 15 MP area. Even without printing, which I know is what actually counts, and looking at the files at 100% on the screen, the 16 MP images from my 1D have far more detail than the 18 MP from my 7D.

    I’ve never found the images from the 7D to be overly sharp or detailed, even with lenses like the 135mm f/2.0L.

    16MP on a 1.3 crop frame is almost the same as 21MP on a full frame, so it makes sense that this MP size is in a pro camera.

    This has all been said before, but it seems that a high megapixel to sensor size ratio is what Canon puts into prosumer or consumer grade cameras, while a sensible megapixel to sensor size ratio is what they put into a pro grade camera.

  • The bloody myth about higher MP meaning less IQ is plain BS:
    If you pack more pixels on the same area, each one gets less light. Everything else being the same, you will have more noise PER PIXEL. You will have about the same amount of noise per area, so prints at a size where the extra res is not needed won’t suffer.
    Same thing about diffraction: the individual pixels of a higher res sensor will be able to show the effects of diffraction (i.e. blurring) more clearly and starting at wider apertures. The lower res sensor whose larger pixels don’t see the diffraction effect will have a higher local sharpness, but overall sharpness will be about the same.

  • You do know that higher pixel density means less dynamic range, don’t you?

    I would also address the sharpness and detail, but I’m tired of talking about diffraction. Perhaps some other time :)

  • I can’t tell if you’re in the group who believes higher pixel density causes reduced sharpness due to diffraction, or if you’re in the group who actually understands how diffraction works. If the latter, please ignore this post as it would then not be directed at you.

    Any lack of sharpness on the 7D (compared to other cameras) is due to increased noise reduction being performed (necessitated by higher pixel density), not diffraction.

    Remember, being diffraction-limited is a actually good thing. It means you’re not being limited by something else (for example, lack of resolution due to lower pixel density).

  • Hey,

    7D is a great camera. It has less noise than the 40D and 50D, so don’t listen to those saying how it has more noise, while they haven’t even tested it.

    Auto focus is much more faster and accurate than xxD’s cameras and it has many other useful features. Really, best APS-C from Canon right now.

  • Uh, is being in one group or the other mutually exclusive? -_- I think I understand diffraction (from both theoretical physics’ and a photographer’s standpoint) quite well, and still I am bothered by it.

    I am not one of those folks who read something on an internet forum, take it for a fact and then spread it further. I try to get to the bottom of it, research as much as I can, and most importantly; I take pictures to support my views and opinions. After you see an old 40D outperforming the new 7D on a 20×30 inch print, maybe you’ll see my point. Sure, the 7D resolves more detail due to it’s 18MP; but what am I to do with this detail when it’s smeared all over the image due to diffraction (and noise reduction and strong anti aliasing filter and what not..) and no amount of sharpening is going to bring it back?

    And I didn’t want to talk about diffraction..

  • As a side note, that last paragraph of yours is spectacular. I know a lot of people don’t consider diffraction to be such a big deal, and I can see where they’re coming from, but I honestly never ever thought I’d see somebody saying that being diffraction-limited is a good thing.. :)

  • Oh yeah! Canon made 18mp on 7D just to make it a baaad camera! And you know much more than those Japanese guys at Canon. Sorry, we were so ignorant and please excuse guys at canon for their stupidity.

    You guys together with yarrayering make me laugh :))

    really, thanks for that!

  • Look at the lack of detail in a moderately sized print – A3 – made with a Nikon D3s and then we’ll talk :)

    And BTW, don’t even think about cropping…

  • Anytime.

    But hey, it always amazes me how many people are defending something they don’t understand. Putting the resolution and resolution-related problems aside for a moment, I agree that the 7D is Canon’s best APS-C camera yet. Heck, it may very well be Canon’s best camera ever. Now take the resolution and put it back into play and suddenly I am not so certain about 7D’s superiority.

    Of course Canon had reasons to put 18MP sensor into their newest crop camera.. but if I’m allowed to venture a guess here; those reasons had much more to do with marketing than they had with engineering.

    And again, I am not here to argue with you. I see benefits of more megapixels, but for me and considerable amount of other photographers these benefits are overshadowed by problems they bring along.

  • Jeez, will you never learn?
    There will be NO 60D for some time to come…

    The new model will be something between XXD and XXXD series.
    As for this model it will get a nice surprise.

  • They can announce something today and then some more on next tuesday :) But yeah, not very likely.

  • My opinion is that physics is not something we should be concerned about. For example, I use a Mac and don’t care why it has so less bugs compared to Windows I just use it. That’s it. Same with the cameras, just take a picture with two cameras you’re comparing, e.g. 50d and 7d or 40d and 7d and see which picture is better, I’m sure It’s gonna be 7d. Give it a shot.

  • For my money, the best thing they could do would be announce a camera that took an APS-C sized slice of the 5DmkII’s sensor, giving us the noise and ISO performance of the 5DmkII in an (approximately) 8 megapixel camera. I’d buy that in a heartbeat.

    People complain about needing to crop… I say, just learn to frame your picture to use the maximum area of your lens (and for that matter, learn to use the right lens and/or zoom setting), and you won’t worry so much about cropping. Need more area at that resolution? Shoot several shots and combine them; that works for a broad range of picture types. Landscapes, architecture, product, anything without a lot of correlated motion.

    Frankly, if you can’t make a good picture with 8 mp (think 20D resolution), then the camera probably isn’t the issue.

  • There’s not much wrong with your English, but you might want to have the “Shift” key on your keyboard looked at. ;-)

  • I hate people saying crap like you.

    You got 7d for instance in your cam setting set to shoot with smaller amount of pixel or scale your current pictures to 8mp like you said you would like and noise level will be MUCH better then anything like 5d mkII on full 21mp res.

    Just try it.

  • “more pixels mean lower iq”

    By implication, therefore, less pixels mean higher IQ. I cannot deny that a camera with one big pixel would have fabulous dynamic range, exceptionally low noise and total immunity to diffraction, but I cannot help feeling that I’d be missing out on something. I just cannot put my finger on it….

    Back in the real world, there is such a thing as a single pixel camera. While the IQ is better than you might expect, I think I’d take the 60D’s or 7D’s 18MP sensor instead:

    http://physicsbuzz.physicscentral.com/2006/10/single-pixel-camera.html

  • Increased sensor resolution will always give increased detail in the photo, no matter what the quality of the lens!

    Don’t believe me? Look at these two reviews, one done on an 8 MP camera, one done on a 15 MP camera:
    http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/174-canon-ef-s-10-22mm-f35-45-usm-test-report–review?start=1
    http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/406-canon_1022_3545_50d?start=1

    Especially, note how even the softer edges give more detail on the higher resolution camera! The same goes for the detail at smaller apertures.

    Here are two more reviews, 8 MP vs 15 MP:
    http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/178-canon-ef-s-17-55mm-f28-usm-is-test-report–review?start=1
    http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/425-canon_1755_28is_50d?start=1

    Now, I didn’t understand how this works, so I started a forum thread. If you don’t understand either, this is good reading:
    http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1029&message=34274080

  • We should all be bowing down before the superior IQ of medium format or drum scanned large format images taken rather than arguing about which one APS-C or FF camera body is the best camera in the world for absolutely everything. A Hasselblad might be crap in a night club, but if you want a two-page spread in a magazine of a model in a studio, I think it might be a better tool than a Nikon D700.

    There is no point in Canon producing exactly the same cameras as Nikon. They have to differentiate their products to give us some choice. The companies currently give us different choices, as their cameras tend towards different shooting styles and subject matter while sharing a large amount of common ground in the middle. Pick the one that’s right for you. Don’t buy the wrong camera (or buy into the wrong system) and then blame the company for not making exactly the same camera as you could have bought from the other one.

  • CR0. There would be no 60D, why can’t people accept that? Canon wants you to pony up the extra shekels for a 7D, because for $500 more, you get a substantially better camera. If you can’t afford that, wait for the 550D, which would step up and fight the D90 in specs. The 40D & 50D vs. D300 sales figures has taught Canon that the ~$1300 cam can go up to $1800 with little or no loss in sales.

  • yeah and for another 500$ you get a EVEN better camera.. what are you some kind of retarded redneck?

  • Ben said: “Frankly, if you can’t make a good picture with 8 mp (think 20D resolution), then the camera probably isn’t the issue.”

    Agreed.

  • While I would prefer a bit more than 8MP (say 12MP on a crop sensor utilizing gapless sensels would be sweet), I couldn’t agree more with your closing statement. Thumbs up.

    As for those two individuals replying above me; I wonder why some people find the truth to be so very offensive :)

  • You’re right. You know what, I would say even more. We all should get a 12 pixel camera. I don’t mean 12 megapixel, i mean 12 pixel, 3×2! Can you imagine the beauty of a picture we are going to have!? :) the sharpness on pixel level would be great, and I think there will be almost no noise at ISO 102,000!!! yey! This would probably as well increase DR! And in case you’ll not have enough resolution for the landscape, you’ll just take few millions of shots and combine that!

    And yes, if you can’t make a good picture with the camera you use now then, 12 pixel camera won’t help you in any way.

  • Looks to me that there are people trying to pick a fight for no other reason that to fight over something, no matter how subjective or even unimportant it is.

    I think it’s time for another rumour. Hm, an actual announcement from Canon would do..

  • they just put bigger sensors there, that’s all. wait 3-5 years and 1ds will have 50mp (or around that)

  • The problem may arise when you like Nikon bodies but Canon lenses :) Not that I’m among them, but it just crossed my mind. Sure there is choice, but you have to evaluate whole system with lenses, speedlights and accesories. And THAT’s much harder to do then just compare single bodies of cameras :)

  • That makes me dumb too, doesn’t it, as I happen to agree with Peter and Ben. Well, I’d much rather be as dumb as they are, than be as smart as you and most of the crowd here.

  • Haha, it’s already Feb4 in my country. So it will be announced “very soon”… I think that when the 60D does come out, it will be revolutionary… not 18mp and Digic4 only. Talking about Digic4… that’s the one used in my compact camera!

  • Absolutely. What probably happens to many photographers is that it is only after investing in the system and using it for long enough that they know whether or not it is the system for them. At that point, changing to the other system becomes too expensive and they wish the manufacturer of their system would add the missing bits that the other one has. Often that just doesn’t happen (or doesn’t happen soon enough).

    Me? I like my Canon lenses and my 50D, but I often think that a Nikon D700 body would suit me better, as I would happily trade a little resolution for a lot less noise. I bought into the Canon system before Nikon chose to go in a different direction, so I’m not kicking myself about making the wrong choice. I can’t afford to change (not even to a 5D II), so I don’t lose any sleep over it and just keep taking photos with what I have–which is significantly better than the A40 compact I had in 2002!

  • Question: On the 60D, will CFn. IV.11 be upgraded to add setting E that is a combination of current options A and D? I need to know for a wedding I have on Saturday.

  • I know what you mean. In my point of view Canon remains superior in prime lenses and L class lenses, but bodies can sure use some improvement. It’s not that my camera produce bad images. It produces great images (in technical meaning of course, no camera can deliver amazing image by itself, right? :)) and I’m still now and then amazed what it can deliver. What most people are pissed about is that they see it can be done in a different and probably in a better way for them at the same amount of money, but they can’t change the system for the reasons you stated above.

  • Canon better hurry with some announcement or we are all going to kill each other arguing over tidbit scraps of a rumor….

  • According to these folks being diffraction limited does not decrease the total amount of information in an image. Sharpness (local contrast) goes down, but detail is either higher or remains the same due to more pixels.

    Having more pixels, after post-processing, can compensate for a lot of the flaws of Canon’s sensors. Even though more pixels means more noise, more pixels also means more detail. That means that while heavier noise reduction will reduce the amount of detail in the image, the remaining detail will be equal or higher than a low-pixel image simply because you had more detail to start with.

  • Unfortunately, that is not true.

    In theory more pixels capture more detail, but in real life this detail is depreciated by diffraction, in-camera processing and other factors.

    At the end of the day, I want sharp photos. Less megapixels can deliver this, and even when enlarged they maintain the sharpness very well. More megapixels, on the other hand, can deliver more detail, if the circumstances are right, but more often than not it doesn’t. Simply because this detail is unusable. Not to mention that perceivable sharpness is often more important than detail itself.

  • With the EOS 7D in the market WhyTF would you want that fabled 60D? it would be super stupid to tell you the truth.

  • Surely you must know that diffraction sets the upper limit of the available resolution of a scene that can be captured, and that it is impossible to capture more detail than that.

    If you are below the diffraction limit (due to pixel density, lens quality, or any other factors), then your camera cannot capture all of the detail available in a scene. You are *always* limited by something. My point is simply that if it is diffraction which limits you, then you have surpassed every other possible limitation and are capturing all of the details physically available, i.e. you cannot get any better.

    And for the record, I was never defending the 7D. I was simply pointing out that diffraction affects all sensors equally (assuming everything else is equal, of course).

    Photographers need to be aware of diffraction and its effects (keeping in mind their visibility ends up depending on print size), but this is true for all cameras, not just the 7D.

  • Anyone can get sharp photos with almost any equipment. It’s very easy, just boot up Lightroom, set clarity and sharpening to 100. The question is not whether your photo is sharp or soft, but whether you retain detail after ex-camera processing.

    Nikon’s big strength is that their photos require very little post-processing to look good. They have low detail and low noise at high isos, so you get what you get with Canon without having to do post-processing. At lower isos, your pictures can’t compare with Canon’s, however.

    That said, the 7D is rather diffraction limited and unless it’s intended to be marketed towards only photojournalists with fast lenses, it can’t really go all that much higher in MP, and the 1D Mark 4’s tradeoff versus the D3S is higher reach and better low-iso performance versus 2-3 stops inferior high ISO.

  • Agreed. Good picture has nothing to do with SHARP picture, NOISE FREE picture and all that crap..

  • Tantilising Spoiler “As for this model it will get a nice surprise.” what area do you think this surprise will be in – GPS?

    BTW what country are you in? I’m UK.

  • However, If you have a good picture that is also sharp and noise free. It will become a better picture. So would you rather settle for a good picture or a better picture???

  • Looks like that we are beating the “image quality” vs higher pixel density to death for no reason again and again. These are the well know facts:
    1. higher pixel density does contribute more noise, assuming anything else are equal.
    2. higher pixel density does approaching “diffraction limit” at larger aperture opening.
    3. higher pixel density will demand excellent lens that can resolve at least 110 lp/mm, which even most the Canon L lens will have problem doing it.
    In order to combat problem #1, Canon is using noise reduction on 7D at ALL ISO setting and result in slightly un-sharp picture at pixel level. In order to combat problem #2, users cannot use anything smaller than 5.6 to get the maximum sharpness. in order to combat problem #3. users cannot use even the cheaper L lens. All these solutions are well documented in various test reports that you can find in the CR site.

    Someone may argue that user can always down size the picture to 12 or 8 Mp to gain back lower noise and sharper per pixel image. that is true. Then why do we have 18 Mp picture to begin with? We still end up 12 or 8 Mp pictures at the end. We may as well start with a gapless 12 or 8 MP sensor.

    For me the idea digital SLR is a camera with all the 7D feature, minus video function and with 12 or even 8 MP gapless sensor. Until Canon comes out with something close to that, I will hang on to me OLD 20D.

  • I wonder if an “error” such as 36fps was introduced on purpose so that the origin of the rumour can see which web sites it spreads to.

    It’s kind of like deliberate errors being introduced in copy because you know that original sources would not (re)produce the error whereas those doing copy-paste will.

  • I just bought my 7D after my 50D had been stolen. I thought it’s a good decision but after having read all comments, it seems 7D not as good as it advertised (in terms of noise). Is reducing the pixel size in the camera will solve the problem? For Canon, I expect them to develop new fimrware to solve such problem…

  • I’m in Singapore. Waitin and waitin for the 550D. Its funny how announcements are made… then you look back at all the rumours. And laugh at how they were all wrong.

    :P

  • True, very few 550 hard rumours before the event, not sure what spoiler meant by “this model it will get a nice surprise” Like the camera but want to hear some rave reviews before commiting to buy – i’d wanted great ISO – i’m being offered good iso – its so almost there. If prices drop for my birthday in june i’m in at 550.

  • Hmm, I hope the noise perf is good. I mean, 18mp on APS-C… what on earth! :P

    But the video is really not bad. Com[arable to 7D and 5Dii standards? Well I can see loads of people buying it solely for the video, eg those who are into filming [like me] and want something in between camcorders and shoulder-mounted video cameras… Heh.

    I really really really hope to see good still image performance too!

  • I have looked at many images of the 7D and many of them look soft. Run thru flickr and see what people are shooting and more are OOF/soft than not.

    I would love to have 18MP (would prefer it on a FF though), but not if the images tend to be softer than other cameras.

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