Discontinuing Cameras & Lenses[CR1]

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Rebel XSi & 50D Done
Received information today that said both the XSi and 50D are on final sell offs and no longer available from Canon.

100 f/2.8 Macro
Currently the 100 f/2.8 non-L macro is still available from Canon. It’s on the latest Canon price sheets.

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  • you don’t need 4 entry level cameras so don’t expect a replacement (the T2i was just released).

    They will give us a 60D or something in the APS-C range above a rebel.

  • My local Chi-Mark (AKA Wal-Mart) just started stocking the XSi in the last week or so. Price? 699 USD + tax. I guess that Canon has to get rid of old stock somehow.

  • So, historically, when Canon officially announces the end of a model (like the 50D), how long does it usually take for them to announce a replacement (like a 60D, perhaps?)?

  • I bought this exact camera when I was in Japan, the problem is that I can’t get it to work unless it’s plugged into the computer with the usb cable. Wee bit frustrating. But yours seems to be working fine without being plugged in. How did you do it? Is it something idiotic like having to put batteries in it or do you actually have to do something to it? it’s all a mystery to me since I can’t read the Japanese instructions.

  • They normally announce the new model before they stop shipping the old model.

    Actually, they normally keep shipping the two together for quite a while. The time between the release of the 7D and the end of the 50D is about right for a typical replacement. Either there is no 60D, or it will be cheaper than they can sell the 50D for, so there was no point releasing the 60D until all the 50Ds were sold. The success of the Nikon D90 means that Canon need a new model in that price range, so I think it will be a new, plastic-bodied model with more heft than a Rebel, but less than the xxDs of old.

  • “Too bad some people still can’t comprehend that THERE IS A GOOD CHANCE there will never be a 60D.”

    What’s with the negative attitude?

    This is a rumor site, not an official Canon forum.

  • The 7D isnt the replacement for the 50D… thats a fact. Its to expensive and this camera its fighting against NIKON D300s range…

    Nikon D90, and his predecessor, the “Nikon D90 MKII” or whatever they call it.. needs a rival on the range.

    Dont expect canon give fight with one model, where nikon and sony are fighting with 2 o 3 models…

  • Right… its call “CANON RUMORS” for a reason.

    There is a plenty of people here that are waiting for the 60D to came out.

    I was one of them, until I gave up, and buy the 7D the last week… i really wasnt expect the 60D to came early this year.. but maybe i was mistaken..

  • 60 and 1Ds in aug-sept quarter. I’ve used it. Not as well built as 7D but just as robust as a 50D.

  • So will the 60D have more or less features than the 7D? (will it be a step up or down from the 7D?)

    Trying to decide whether to buy the 7D… but if the 60D comes out in the near future, I don’t want to be kicking myself if I bought the 7D and miss out on something that the 60D has ..

  • Seems to me the 60D will be a step down since it will be positioned to compete with the D90/D90MkII(?)

  • That’s the question, isn’t it?

    It’s not unlike Canon to introduce compelling features on a “lower end” body before they make it onto higher end cameras. Example: self-cleaning sensors showed up on Rebels several months before the 40D came out.

    “60D” will probably be lower on the food chain than the 7D, but may introduce really interesting features not yet on higher-end cameras nonetheless.

    The fact that 50D is going away before we hear anything solid on a replacement tells me the next camera in that general price range will be a departure from the XXD line and will probably not be called 60D. If it was only a matter of upping the sensor and/or the AF and tweaking the UI, the 60D would be out by now.

    I don’t think the idea there will be no 60D displays a “negative attitude” as waitingforever suggests. It may just indicate Canon is going in a new direction, and that’s not a bad thing since the 50D was the same basic design as the 20D, which came out in ’04. It’s past time to shake things up.

    HOW will they shake it up? My speculation is pulled from the same dark and smelly place as yours, so dream away. . .

  • If the 50D and the XS1 “no longer available from Canon”, then why are they still listed at Canon USA’s website?

    http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ProductCatIndexAct&fcategoryid=111

    Discontinuing a line does not necessarily mean that there will be no successor. It could mean that the successor will be the beginning of a new, differently-named line. Sometimes companies feel it is better to re-brand a product, than to come out with a successor of the same line. When they do this, they feel that it is easier to have consumers look at the new product differently with the new name, than it would be to try to convince consumers with the old name.

  • “Too bad some people still can’t comprehend that THERE IS A GOOD CHANCE there will never be a 60D.”

    My mistake, maybe not so much a negative attitude but a poor attitude towards those that think the 60D may still come out.
    the” too bad some people still can comprehend” part makes it seem like a polite way of saying ,”Too bad some people are too stupid to understand”
    and also he threw himself/herself a little wiggle room with the “There is a good chance” kinda like what he says Canon is doing.

  • I don’t see why Canon didn’t just drop the 1000D/XS and keep the 450D/XSi as the entry level DSLR.

    Maybe they are dropping both.

  • i dont think canon will stop the 100 2.8
    that would be a shot in the on foot

    since the L is almost twice as expensive als the NON-L
    people wont buy the L just because canon has no other macro with 100
    they will switch to tamron/sigma/tokina/zeiss

  • and btw where the f**k
    is the new 24-70 IS
    or somethong above 200?
    200-400 IS 4-5,6
    400 IS 5,6

  • I’m also curious about this. The XSi/450D could be upgraded/repackaged with the addition of video (probably limited to 720p) and released as the replacement for the 1000D. Or else Canon might come out with something new, perhaps even an EVIL camera, to compete in the entry level market.

  • If you can’t get a Canon DSLR to work without instruction manual, maybe this isn’t the right kind of gear for you.

  • you are right, but I cant imagine canon leaving such a huge price-gap open in their lineup, so I’m pretty sure something will replace the 50D. It might not be called “60D” (i mean who cares for the name? I just use “60D” because thats the only obvious name.. if not that, it could be anything, really..) but 7D wasnt the replacement for 50D, thats for sure..

  • 7D is essentially the new xxD replacement at Nikon Dxx competition level, presumably from market point of view. Canon xxD will evolve into something new for market experiments. Maybe mirrorless, tilt touchscreen LCD, and plus some surprise.

  • It’s always the same:
    The 60D will have new features, but lower specs than die 7D.
    Obviously.
    Just like the 7D had better features but lower specs than the 1D MkIV.
    Or the 550D vs. 50D.

    Always the same.

  • Pretty much, yeah. However, the Nikon D90 was the number one seller in Japan in April (with the D3000 and D5000 not far behind). Canon needs something to compete with the D90 and the 7D just isn’t shifting enough units.

  • The EF-S 60mm macro has an equivalent focal length of 96mm on an APS-C body. It is the alternative to the traditional ~100mm macro lens on FF. That would leave the 100mm “L” as the option for FF bodies (which you had to have a few bucks to buy in the first place), or as the rough equivalent of the traditional 150mm or 180mm lens when used on APS-C. Pitched against the EF 180mm lens, the 100mm “L” is good value.

    If you look at the zoom lenses, Canon are developing new EF-S lenses and new “L” lenses, but nothing in between. Meantime, lens sales are going up rapidly. Expect more of the same.

  • Except that the D90 is outselling the 7D by five to one in Japan. That has got to hurt.

  • Then again the 7D is a MUCH better camera then the D90.
    So what’s your point? That a cheaper and less-feature rich camera sells better?

  • I heard a rumour that this is not in fact a rumour site but rather a Canon Marketing research /communications site.

    Marketing use it to communicate with their engineers, before ignoring what the engineers and customers say. Instead marketing base their decision on reading tea leaves, they have yet to realise that they are all coffee drinkers!

  • 60D + 2000D will be released

    the 2000d will basically be a rebadged and cheaper looking 450d (yes canon can mange to make things look even cheaper! :p)

  • 50d has been “done” for a long time now. I doubt a CR1 rumor constitutes a comlete discontinuation. They’ll introduce 60d this year and the 50d will still be available for a while as an economical stills camera. I think we are too deep into the summer for Canon to release 60d. The only way they will is if Nikon makes a move first with the d90 successor.

  • so you said that the canon rumors guy has a canon codebar tattoo on his ass?

    is posible, since canon has buy a lot of freereviewblogs and sites, but it still funny to have a rumorssite real or not.

    Anyway, i was checking the history of the site and the most of the rumors are really accurate..

  • I agree.

    Nikon is also in a hurry to replace the D90.
    But both cameras, 50D and D90 still selling pretty well as i see.

  • Disagree.

    Canon 450D/1000D = Nikon D60
    Canon 550D = Nikon D5000
    Canon 50D = Nikon D90
    Canon 7D = Nikon D300s

    No way the 7D is made to combat an old an lowerlevel camera as D90.

  • Nope, 60D will come later. (spring next year)

    As for the 2000D, yes this will appear on the market soon.
    (way before Photokina)

    60D will get APS-H sensor btw.

  • Utter nonsense.
    Canon does not look at Nikon or any other manufacturer for releasing products.

    7D was the 60D, but many still refuse to understand.

    60D is planned for next year. Most exiting news about this cam is that it will get APS-H sensor, but not an improved AF or anything else that would shock the world.

  • Maybe he does have a tattoo, certainly I’ve never seen a picture of his ass (real or rumoured).

    CR Guy, please don’t feel the need to dignify this with a picture!

    Either way, love looking at this site. Love the way that people get all hot under the collar about a CR0 or CR1.

    I’m waiting for a rumour that the “end of the world is nigh” and that Canon are delaying the release of the 60D till after the end.

    People will complain about the delay and threaten to jump ship to Nikon and buy the newly released ‘Nikon D90 EOW Special with FF time capsule self cleaning sensor’.

  • I think you’ve nailed it. I’ve said before I think there will be no 60D, and that is still what I believe deep down, though several people on this list have made a pretty good case for continuation of the series.

    However. . .

    Someone who knows Nikon better can PLEASE correct me if I’m wrong, but does Nikon simply have no direct competition with 50D? Based only on price and a very general comparison of features, isn’t D90 equivalent to rebel and D300S equivalent to 7D? What does Nikon have in between those models that Canon would be compelled to answer to?

    If we see another ~1200-buck EF lens camera, I believe it will be significantly different from the 50D and NOT called 60D, possibly a test bed for electronic viewfinder technology, touch screens, or perhaps even my hoped-for square format.

    The 7D will surely get “Marked” up over time, but I still feel the buck will stop with the 50D.

  • Nikon D90 is the main rival of the 50D…

    Nikon D90 (Body Only) for 795$…
    Canon 50D (Body Only) for 950$…

    Nikon offer video, and Canon not.. at this level.

  • BTW… canon is lossing lot of terrain in this market… in means of quality (what u get) and price… the Nikon D90 is lot better than canon 50D.

    And the canon 50D is a lot newer than the D90…

  • i would like a 60D with a APS-H sensor.
    Ideal for weddings and studio production… more megapixels i guess.. maybe 21.0 mpx. for that size and with the new canon tecnology of super duper megapixels..

  • If Canon were to release a T2i with a rugged, metal body and maybe an improved AF, I would buy it tomorrow … 60D or whatever name / model it gets.

    Seems like this would fit well price-wise between the 7D and the T2i. I fully believe that not having something between the two would be a mistake, since a 100% price jump between models discourages too many people from stepping up.

  • I’d like that… think of it as either a souped up T2i (faster operation, better AF and controls) or think of it as a mini-50D with an improved sensor.

  • The point is that Nikon’s big seller does not have a direct competitor from Canon, so Canon are losing market share. Both make cheaper and less feature rich cameras than the D90, but the D90 outsells all those models (in Japan last week). The D90 is sitting in a sweet spot and the 50D is (to the average consumer) obsolete and uncompetitive.

    You can claim that the 550D is the D90 competitor–it sells nearly as many–but then the D3000 and D5000 are up against the 500D and together are outselling it three to one. The 7D is way behind and the 50D is nowhere.

  • “And the canon 50D is a lot newer than the D90…”

    The D90 was announced one day after the 50D was announced. Are you thinking of the D80?

  • Pulled the trigger and ordered the 7D/18-135mm kit today from BuyDig.com … which means, the 60D should be announced as soon as the return period is over for my 7D purchase – about 2 weeks or so….

  • The wait for the 60D is seriously making me crazy. The T2i is a great camera, but after selling my 40D to get it, I’m regretting the better build quality and FPS. Need 60D ASAP!

  • Don’t worry. You won’t be disappointed. I bought the 7D six months ago and haven’t looked back.

    The camera is 10X smarter than I am and solid as a rock. Most of the fantasizing you read here is just that…fantasizing.

    Canon has a huge investment in this camera and did a lot of market research before launching it. I can’t imagine they are about to undercut it.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if they keep the 50D in the lineup for another year. Personally, I think they view the T2i as the competitor to the D90. (Can’t wait for the comments I’ll get on that one!)

    Worst case scenario, you’ll have a great camera that will produce awesome quality photos for as long as you choose to own it. Frankly, isn’t that what we should want in a camera anyway?

  • body, viewfinder, wireless flash control, top lcd, etc are few things that makes D90 so desirable, none of these things are there in any rebel or nikon low end series

  • Thanks for the words of encouragement! I sold my 40D on eBay (shipped it off yesterday) to be able to afford the 7D… am really looking forward to using it as soon as I get the sling off my arm (I had rotator cuff surgery a week and a half ago)…

  • you are right..
    The canon 50D is older by one day.. jajaja.

    Anyway.. D90 still a good option over the 50D… isnt it?

  • Nice one afrank99

    Charge the battery, turn on the camera, turn the dial to the green box, point it at something and hit the big button on the right

  • In that case:

    550D > D5000
    D90 > 50D
    7D > D300s
    D700 probably > 5DmII, or?

  • – Nikon D90 replacement will probably be called D90s (they don’t use Mk I, II, III etc like Canon)

    – The only way for Canon to trump the Nikon D90 and its successor is to release a camera that combines the best photo/video features of both the 7D and 550D/T2i into a X0D-type (alloy) body at a competive price range ($1000-$1500) to the D90/D90s, which will most likely still be a plastic body Nikon.

    – I anticipate that maybe due to the new naming scheme established with the 7D last year that perhaps the 60D will instead be called “9D”

    So the lineup for early 2011 should be :

    Consumer (Rebels) :
    2000D (T1?)
    500D (T1i)
    550D (T2i)

    Prosumer :
    60D (9D?)
    7D
    5D Mk II

    Professional :
    1Ds Mk IV
    1D Mk IV

  • Unfortunately that makes sense, and the trend is likely to continue. I am a big fan of the non-L FF primes. The L-series is a bit over my budget and more often than not too big and heavy for my purposes.

  • I don’t think there’s 60D.

    T2i have 18mp, so do 7d, if there’s 60d what mp it will be?

    It should not below 550 or more than 7d.

  • Yes, but that doesn’t mean that Canon couldn’t base the design of the 1000D replacement on the 450D as well. Indeed this would be the cheapest way of developing a “new” camera model. i.e. add video to the 450D and call it the 2000D.

  • The 50D is being cleared out by many Australian camera retailers and Canon Australia are giving away 50D in numerous competitions held by various companies including their own.

  • I think Bugger has some issues with his ‘humor’. Chi -mark sounds nothing like “Wal-mart” even with the mispronounciation of “chi” like “china” instead of “k-ie” as the Greek letter. It’s a lame joke at best.

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