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Soon!
I received notice that there will be a Canon announcement on November, 24, 2009 in regards to a new 70-200 f/2.8L IS II.
No word on any other lenses being announced. Still waiting on CR3 confirmation.
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Hopefully it means that the original model gets a price drop. Okay, I am not holding my breath because it likely wont happen.
Wonder what the premium will be on this vs the current lens.
It won’t. My guess is that the new one will be $2395 and impossible to find for a few months.
Buydig’s price is already up by $50 today.
I suppose H-IS ?
No news on whether they will talk about an EF 24-70 f2.8L /w IS?
I am guessing between $2,400 and $2,500
If this turns out to be true, my 70-200/4L IS will be for sale very soon =) Hopefully they improve the IS and tripod collar to be more usable in real worlds.
My 0.02
Really hope this one is coming… And would looooooove an 24-70 f2.8L IS to complement that :-)
Nice. 1D IV with this lens is the win
Well, if announced, there will be a huge used market for the current 70-200 2.8L IS.
But I also think the new one will be closer to $2800. Don’t forget the 30% price increase on existing equipment over the last year…with that in mind, new lenses should be even more than the current ones.
What’s wrong with the tripod collar? If you’d pay the $2300+ for an f/2.8L IS II, then why not the $1700 for the original? This is more of an upgrade for the nuts (like me) that already have the f/2.8L, wouldn’t you think?
EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS II?
I want to go to there
I hope the new one is lighter than the current one… it’s so much heavier that Nikon’s equivalent 70-200 2.8 VR. But I guess it keeps my left arm strong.
The 1D4 manual indicates problem with 70-200f2.8IS when 2x extender is used (pg97? or 94). So a new 70-200 is not a big surprise.
Not with the IS version. The problem is reported for the non-IS only.
Here’s hoping for HIS, possibly lighter than the current one and a very big hopefully.. 24-70 to follow with HIS :)
My next lens.
@benjamin: ??? The tripod collar of the 2.8’s is among the best there is! Rock solid here. What’s wrong with yours ?
is your right arm stronger? single? (joke)
BS
the new nikon 70-200 weights 1540g
http://www.nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Nikon/Product/Camera-Lenses/2185/AF-S-NIKKOR-70-200mm-f%252F2.8G-ED-VR-II.html
oh teh hotness…
now I just need a new bank account. If it’s good and I can lug it around I can sell a few lenses. Is this goodbye to my 70-200 4 IS and 85 1.8? They could at least pay for half.
now teh nuclearness would be a concomitant 24-70 IS announcement. We’re ready Canon!
FTW IM GONNA BUY IT!!!
I hope this lens is announced and released soon. Then by the time I save enough to afford one, it might actually be available in stores (6 months later) LOL.
choosing from 4 different 70-200 was a hard choice especially between the f4IS and f2.8IS… what now???
if they sell this at a higher price then this would surely be a big failure… paying extra for a better IS is worthless, knowing that the current IS works great. and i doubt it will be sharper wide open. the old 70-200f2.8IS will be the reasonable choice.
How about a black option?
win. haha 24-70IS, as if it wasnt heavy enough. but yea, pretty sure i would have that on my camera all the time.
The same day I’m taking a vacation… If it happened then I wouldn’t know until December 1st at the least
$2199. Canon will need to do volume. Priced too high it won’t sell with the masses.
I think you are right that Canon will not keep 3 versions of a lens. This will replace the current 70-200 2.8 IS. I think a modest price increase will be in order. Say between 1899 and 2199. I’d actually go back on what I said earlier and wager $1999. The current stock will drop to something like 1499 and finish out its days.
If we assume the old 2.8 IS price falls, which I think won’t, it should also shift the prices for the F4 IS and F4. Someone correct my logic.
It would certainly sell more if canon offered two: one black and one white. Like the black ipod when it first came out. I was on that like black on night.
Not that interested. I have my old 70-200 IS. Although not as fancy as the that Nikorr one, I cannot afford to buy a new $23XX lens. Canon had better to make the new one as good as the Nikorr one.
I am only waiting for the 24-70 IS. Again, Canon has to do a good job on this one, at least as good as the Nikorr 24-70.
lol 30 rock
i’m hoping for a new 24-70
I wonder if this lens will have new IS that works better for VIDEO.
That would be great.
it’s not just for better IS
it’s overall QUALITY of lens
as same as NEW 70-200 nano (Nikon)
Unlike the iPod, the Canon lens isn’t a fashion accessory. I doubt the lack of colour choices forces very many prospective buyers into the hands of Sigma/Tamron/Tokina, especially considering neither of their 70-200 lenses have IS.
There’s nothing wrong with such a choice, but you’re overblowing the significance of the colour of a lens.
Who ever thought buying Canon lenses would be a dollar play… talk about being able to ‘enjoy’ your investment. Seriously, with the dollar falling and falling and falling, how long before the foreign manufacturers are forced to open plants in the US in order to make goods we can afford?
What goes around comes around….
some people dont want go out shooting and have people see a white lens and intantly start ploting a way to steal their camera
I have already pre-ordered mine:)
I just hope it works without any problems.
Given the American dollar’s plunge against most other currencies (including the Yen) over the past twelve months, you’re dreaming. No point doing volume on a product like this if there’s no profit to be had…
Yes BS. Canons current 70-200 2.8L IS weighs 1470g, 70g less than Nikon’s.
I agree. I’d rather see an improvement in image quality on that lens (it’s good already, but you can always improve stuff) and leave the IS as it is. With all the new high quality insane ISO we’re going to see in the 1D IV and most likely future releases of other camera models, IS becomes a little less important.
I doubt they will plot any less just because they see a 400 2.8 in black instead of white :-)
The 2.8 IS version one is excellent and almost perfect, I can’t imagine the new version! :)
Speak for yourself, I’ll take 4-5 stop IS over the current IS anyday. Why would they ever keep the IS the same, it’s insane to “rely” on high ISO to save you all the time.
It will be fully perfect. ;)
Yes, Finally!!! where do I pay? :)
The origional 70-200 f2.8 IS is coming to 9 years old so time for a new one! :)
EF 17-40 f/4L is the oldest. 1987.
17-40 design isn’t from 1987. It was introduced before the 16-35 MII
Isn’t the 35mm F2 even older? Would be nice to have an EF 35mm F1.8 with modern optics, but thatg would only happen after a new 35mm F1.4 with much better optics is released.
Buy a lens cover?
Right like you have any idea what the manufacturing r&d and marketing costs of lens this are.
New 35 with weather seals is high on my list.
If they drop the current F2.8 price, it’s to clear inventory. There’s no logical reason to also drop the F4 price; they’re not trying to clear the F4s, and there’s no reason to try and balance demand between the two.
The dollar still has a ways to fall before US wages come into parity with much of the rest of the world. Most people think it’s getting bad because they don’t realize just how good we had it, and we got used to high pay and cheap goods.
If Canon charges $2800 for the lens, people will still buy it. People are buying the $6200 EF 200 2.0L IS.
Even the 35L with its new higher price is still in high demand. The 24L II is a solid $500 more than the first version.
In any case, canon will not be selling a new 70-200 for $2199. There’s no way.
HAHAHA but it FEELS lighter! That’s what’s important right?
Your pricing scheme sounds too good to be true… If the new lens is $1999 I will definitely be getting in line to order one!
35L is soft at 1.4 so it can definitely be improved. It seems logical they introduce it next year with the new coating to reduce glare (since this is a great night lens). Also more metal and less plastic.
My copy of the 70-200 2.8L on my 5D2 is sooooo sharp, I doubt they could improve on that, but more IS is always helpful.
I like the heft on a 24-70m 2.8L and I like the size hood. One change would be to make the lens fixed in length so which I think would give it better sealing — and add IS of course.
Expect $ (nominal) prices to go up as the US Govt continues to print paper money at will. Tied to gold money canon is probably reducing their (real) prices as technology has been improving. That’s cause the govt can’t counterfeit gold but it can print that paper stuff away.
Don’t forget the big european market … China has a lot of dollars …
John seems to be a really smart guy. ;-) not even knowing how to disable CapsLock ;-)
Actually Nikon has made a few lenses in light gray.
Your surname’s “Swan” isn’t it?!
It’s Mr. Swan I tells ya.
Cool I’ve been insulted by a troll. :-)
Still using Windows are you? Is that why your caps lock is stuck?
Yep. I agree with this soon to be banned troll. LOL
Sorry, whats the issue? I didnt get that manual
ha, pass… wheres my used 300mm lens
MTf from canon tell us, that the lens can really be improved at the wide angle side. The lens is rally sharp at the long end.
Any idea where the announcement will be. Any room booked yet?
User guide is here : http://www.canonrumors.com/files/1d4_manual_en.pdf
page 97 : “When the EF70-200 f/2.8L USM is used with an Extender, use the center AF point only. The other AF points may cause a focusing error.”
Hmm..
Just to mention it, in Norway the 2.8 IS costs $2.839.. the 2.8 IS II is said to cost us around $3.533..
.. so I’d pay $2.300 for the new one :)
I suspect a lot of US consumer pricing is quite artificial as well. For example the Pontiac G8 was cheaper in the US than in its country of manufacture.
It wouldn’t surprise me if this culture (assuming it’s not an isolated example) had something to do with the trouble you guys are in at the moment.
Oh John Swan, how you deeply amuse us all! I miss the out of control swan posts of yesteryear. Well, sort of.
Swan is banned I believe.
But Beautiful Bobby is not.
This will be my next lens, without a doubt. I will be the first on here with it.
Swan never posted in caps. ;-)
Pricing of $2,000 would be ideal. Any more than that and there will surely be grumbles, although demand will still be huge. But perhaps we will see less questions of “what do I buy, f/2.8 or f/4, as there will be a far bigger gulf in price.
I got told from a source that the new one will be a f2.4 intead of a f2.8. What do you think CR? :)
no way 2.4
Put a small pistol in one of the pockets of your photog vest then. That’s what I do. ;-)
Half stop bigger would be huuuge in a number of ways: further lens differentiation (2.8IS sticks around), might be heavier, although they could probably keep it a similar heft by using more plastics, and think of the low light, DOF help. Question is, can they make it tack sharp corner to corner at 2.8?
This begs the question: could a 24-70 2.4 IS be in the cards too?
“wider” not “bigger” is how I should talk about aperture.
24-70/2.8 L IS is a reality. saw one being tseted over the weekend wth an unmarked body of te 1 series dimensions at a botanical garden. the guy mentioned it had 27 MP and 1080p /60F video udma6 card required per data thruput was using extreme pro/90 card none of his lexars could keep up. He said it was sharper and faster than origional and $1699.
Norway has a lot of money. How much € ?
All non believers will be puni$$$hed. Expect current price plus $1k.
Yeah for a 70-200 2.4IS. I would think $2800 would be in order.
I doubt it will be any higher than Nikon’s version at $2400.
Nice! What did the lens look like? Any different from the current 24-70?
He does now. LOL.
They were fun. My ISP is still banned though for some reason (longest 24 hour ban I’ve ever had). Lucky free proxy things will get around it. CR guy needs to fix it up though.
Yes, they’ll think it’s a Nikon and give up on the idea. LOL
Racism will not be tolerated on this website.
Trust me guys, those messages did not come from John Swan. I know John Swan VERY well. ;-)
No he doesn’t. Trust me, he doesn’t.
It won’t be f/2.4, let’s get that clear for a start.
The guy above was obviously joking.
Ah so you are he I see
Well the joke is on him now as it completely backfired.
The internets don’t lie.
You just keep talking nonsense to yourself Justin, while I am taking pin sharp photos, courtesy of my wide collection of L lenses.
IS version of 24-70 f/2.8 will be good. I don’t think it will happen soon on 70-200 IS II.
Hi all,
from my point of view, I can say that a new 70-200 2.8L II is confirmed.
Yesterday I was in a CPS presentation for the “new” Canon 1D IV and in one of the slides where they talk about lenses compatibility with the camera, you could see both lenses listed there (actual 70-200 2.8 and new version II).
Hope that helps.
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Look at the MTF of Nikon:
http://imaging.nikon.com/products/imaging/lineup/lens/af/zoom/af-s_70-200mmf_28g_vr2/index.htm
Canon should improve the lens soon.
Not forgetting that running a high ISO can also mean that backgrounds become exposed where you may prefer that they weren’t.
I am very eager for a 24-70mm f/2.8L IS and a 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II now please. My little 50mm f/1.8 is limited ;o)
EF 24-70 is also waiting for a new version. Here the mtf chart from nikon:
http://imaging.nikon.com/products/imaging/lineup/lens/af/zoom/af_zoom24-85mmf_28-4d_if/index.htm
It’s the 24th. Anything news yet?
It’s the 25th, any news yet?
It’s the 28th, no news yet!
It’s the 30th, no news. Doesn’t look like they’ll make any Christmas-present-sales. :-(
Well, its near the end of this year, nothing about an upgrade to the 70-200 F2.8 L USM IS.
I think I will buy the “old” one next week :)
serious, I have the money, and I think it is still a wise investment.