Canon To Announce New Compact Cinema EOS Camera

[Bigglesworth]

I stand corrected. I didn't pay attention to the R5C.

Cinema RAW Light LT:
6000 x 3164: 576Mbps – C80
8192 x 4320 / 25P / 1070: Mbps – R5C

6000 x 3164 / 50P [1160 Mbps] – C400
8192 x 4320 / 50P / 2140 Mbps – R5C

The main difference is 8K vs 6K.
Will wait for a 6K cinema that does 60FPS, other than C400, then.
Thanks for the post.

Canon R1 does 60fps in 6K raw. Its sensor also seems to have the most latitude out of any Canon camera to date. Really the sensor I wish they'd based the C80/C400 off of. Used it for a few projects and the image truly feels like a next gen Canon image.

 

[Bigglesworth]

It may seem a bit old in 2025, but the C70 DGO sensor is still the nicest looking video sensor in a camera below $15k (and way nicer than C80, C400, R3, R5, etc offerings).

If they made an FX30-style camera with that sensor (including internal raw) + IBIS, that would be incredible. Especially with the new Sigma 17-40mm f1.8. PLEASE include a timecode port on this body though. If it's true cinema, it needs a timecode port.

My hope:
- Canon C70 sensor
- FX3 style body, with XLR handle when needed
- IBIS
- Get the DGO raw up to 120fps, rather than just 60fps.
- TIMECODE PORT
- Mini XLR on body + 3.5mm when you don't want to use top handle.
- Larger battery
- Internal ND?! One can dream. Even a single 5 or 6-stop ND would be great (like the Powershot V1, but stronger).

Was thinking this too for the most part. I wouldn't mind it if they did something similar to Sony and had an optional handle that you could attach that had XLR inputs and didn't include a mini xlr at all. And if they reused the C70 sensor, it'd be nice if it came with some color tuning to fall more in line the rest of their cameras (they did something similar with the C100 to C100 MK 2).

 

[jam05]

In reality Panasonic is the leader now. I hope finally Canon will allow the user to bake in the real time LUTs in camera. Not everyone uses the same laborious Davinci Resolve Post workflow on every single project. Some projects are quick turn around.

 

[Besisika]

Canon R1 does 60fps in 6K raw. Its sensor also seems to have the most latitude out of any Canon camera to date. Really the sensor I wish they'd based the C80/C400 off of. Used it for a few projects and the image truly feels like a next gen Canon image.

I don't want to leave this unanswered.
Canon doesn't give you the actual compression value. They give you only bitrate. So, I am guessing, and I can be wrong in doing so.
To me, the R1 has a light ST, not light LT.
Compression "belongs" to RED, and I am asking a lot from Canon to get better, especially on your flagship hybrid.
The 576 Mbps on the C80 is very appealing to my need, but it is not the right camera for me.

On a side note, the price of the R5c went down quite a bit. Has to do with this rumor?

 

[Steve_FR]

In reality Panasonic is the leader now. I hope finally Canon will allow the user to bake in the real time LUTs in camera. Not everyone uses the same laborious Davinci Resolve Post workflow on every single project. Some projects are quick turn around.

The Canon C70 and R5C both allow you to shoot video with a LUT baked into the video.

 

[jam05]

The Canon C70 and R5C both allow you to shoot video with a LUT baked into the video.

In Real Time, or after the fact? I own the C70 and can't shoot RAW, bake, and view Real Time LUTs as I do with Lumix. There are limitations when you go to "Custom Picture". Nothing close to like shooting with my Lumix. Canon is trying but prefers you really to use their own CP. They did a lot better implementation with the R50V, but they still crippled it in some aspects. Will not even allow you to frame grab with LUT selected in CP.

 

[subratasenn]

In Real Time, or after the fact? I own the C70 and can't shoot RAW, bake, and view Real Time LUTs as I do with Lumix. There are limitations when you go to "Custom Picture". Nothing close to like shooting with my Lumix. Canon is trying but prefers you really to use their own CP. They did a lot better implementation with the R50V, but they still crippled it in some aspects. Will not even allow you to frame grab with LUT selected in CP.

In real time. You can load your own luts in the 2nd card slot, register them with your camera (basically adding them to your camera menu) and there you go with any recording format, excepting Raw, obviously.
The only thing, you have to have the 2nd card loaded with Luts always while shooting.

 

[jam05]

If Canon wants to compete head on with Panasonix Lumix, Sony FX3, and Sony FX2, they need to stop prohibiting the application of LUTs to still images. Canon blocks user from applying their LUTs to stills or even using the frame grab function when CP is enabled. Protecting their precious Picture Profiles. The Sony FX3, Sony FX2, & Lumix cameras allow the user to save custom LUTs and apply them to still images in camera. Canon has crippled the SOOC workflow. "Any recording format" Not true.
Try to shoot that still image in CLOG with more dynamic range with a custom LUT applied.
You are not getting that image that you see. You can not even frame grab it. RED, Sony, and Lumix cameras can do this. Not Canon. Canon tells you, that you can do it in post, later on. Which is BS.

 

[jam05]

In real time. You can load your own luts in the 2nd card slot, register them with your camera (basically adding them to your camera menu) and there you go with any recording format, excepting Raw, obviously.
The only thing, you have to have the 2nd card loaded with Luts always while shooting.

You can NOT apply a LUT to any still images in a Canon camera. There is absolutely no option for it. The FX2, FX3, and Lumix all allow LUTs to be applied and baked to still images in camera. Canon does not. Canon support confirms this. Canon does not want the user to use anything other than their Picture Profiles for in camera stills. You can NOT even attempt to use the "Frame grab" function when Custom Picture is enabled. They have blocked the user from using a still image in camera with anything other than their own picture profiles. Canon support has confirmed this. Regardless of whats on the card, there is absolutely no means to apply them. I have tried and confirmed it with Canon support.

 

[jam05]

Go shoot a scene with your own mood and colors applied via a LUT in CP. Find a frame for the still image you desire in camera to send to a client with the LUT applied. You will not be able to frame grab that image with your CP settings and the LUT applied. Nor will you be able to switch to Stills mode and apply that LUT either. With a Sony FX2 or FX3 one can set "shot marks" and then create still images from video with LUTs applied.

 

[Bigglesworth]

I don't want to leave this unanswered.
Canon doesn't give you the actual compression value. They give you only bitrate. So, I am guessing, and I can be wrong in doing so.
To me, the R1 has a light ST, not light LT.
Compression "belongs" to RED, and I am asking a lot from Canon to get better, especially on your flagship hybrid.
The 576 Mbps on the C80 is very appealing to my need, but it is not the right camera for me.

On a side note, the price of the R5c went down quite a bit. Has to do with this rumor?

I'm pretty sure the R1 raw video is less compressed than the C80's. So bigger files but higher quality.

 

[runbei]

It may seem a bit old in 2025, but the C70 DGO sensor is still the nicest looking video sensor in a camera below $15k (and way nicer than C80, C400, R3, R5, etc offerings).

If they made an FX30-style camera with that sensor (including internal raw) + IBIS, that would be incredible. Especially with the new Sigma 17-40mm f1.8. PLEASE include a timecode port on this body though. If it's true cinema, it needs a timecode port.

My hope:
- Canon C70 sensor
- FX3 style body, with XLR handle when needed
- IBIS
- Get the DGO raw up to 120fps, rather than just 60fps.
- TIMECODE PORT
- Mini XLR on body + 3.5mm when you don't want to use top handle.
- Larger battery
- Internal ND?! One can dream. Even a single 5 or 6-stop ND would be great (like the Powershot V1, but stronger).

 

[runbei]

Amen to that! If I'm going to spend $3k+ and keep using my backup iPhone SE (instead of upgrading to the 17 Pro), I'll want FF sensor, EVF, IBIS, and FX3-equalling or better loveliness.

 

[cybert]

Hmm. I don´t think (and HOPE NOT that) they will go APS-C / S35 again with such a model. They don´t have enough (good) RF-S lenses for that in their lineup. Its more likely that they use the C80 sensor just without ND filters, with no XLR-Ports and with the LP-E6P battery instead of the bigger ones in the C80 (all in a smaller body). Would seperate such a model already more than enough form the C80. Besides: The R50v is also brand new to the market (more or less) - And full frame is "the standard" actually in the more professional RF system world.

Could be an interesting move though, a R50V'ish sized camera, maybe a bit bigger for IBIS, but S35 using the C70 sensor, then an R5cii using the C80 sensor. It does seem they need a solid compact for video with IBIS focused on handheld shooter market.

 

[Besisika]

R5c does have 12 bit Cinema Raw LT and can go upto 60 fps full frame with this codec because of its CF Express card slot. C80 can only do upto 30 fps full frame as it’s limited to SD cards.
So when we expect a Cinema Camera, this should be there.

I had a week now to go through what you said. I would like to thank you very much for this reply.
The R5c is a much better camera than my current, the R5.
I assumed that the R5c was just an answer to the R5 overheating by adding a vent, and never studied it actually.
I downloaded lots of footage from the net and studied the features of this camera the entire week or two.
If R5c mark II doesn't exist, I will go with the R5c. It delivers much more and resolves most of the issues I have complained about on my R5.
Thanks again for the reply.

 

[psychilles]

I had a week now to go through what you said. I would like to thank you very much for this reply.
The R5c is a much better camera than my current, the R5.
I assumed that the R5c was just an answer to the R5 overheating by adding a vent, and never studied it actually.
I downloaded lots of footage from the net and studied the features of this camera the entire week or two.
If R5c mark II doesn't exist, I will go with the R5c. It delivers much more and resolves most of the issues I have complained about on my R5.
Thanks again for the reply.

I've been using the R5c next to an R8, R6II and a C70 for two years now. If you have any more questions, glad to help.