The Canon EOS R6 Mark III is Canon’s Next Full-Frame Release

Personally I use AI NR above ISO 800.
Wth:D did you mean 8000?
I don't use AI noise reduction, but I may consider a tiny bit of standard noise reduction by ISO 16k or so.


Yes, Canon has identified a specific malfunction in some EF 50mm f/1.4 USM lenses, where the focus operation stops when moving from infinity to a closer distance, affecting both autofocus and manual focus. Other reports mention issues with softness at wide apertures, difficulty achieving sharp images, and even focus motor failure over time, leading some users to consider it a fragile lens with a reputation for poor quality control or a tendency to fail. (Canon Community Forum) btw, Made in Japan ? A widely held distinction which increases values, ... debunked.
My copy of the lens was barely used and, like I mentioned, it was bought on a modern era, so I'd assume Canon had their quality control issues solved by then.
Also, pretty much all reviews of that lens show it as being pretty crappy wide open:unsure:
 
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Yes, Canon has identified a specific malfunction in some EF 50mm f/1.4 USM lenses, where the focus operation stops when moving from infinity to a closer distance, affecting both autofocus and manual focus. Other reports mention issues with softness at wide apertures, difficulty achieving sharp images, and even focus motor failure over time, leading some users to consider it a fragile lens with a reputation for poor quality control or a tendency to fail. (Canon Community Forum) btw, Made in Japan ? A widely held distinction which increases values, ... debunked.
i can confirm fragile, but easily repaired. I dropped mine about 2ft and popped out a lens group. but was able to get it popped back in. Auto focus is slow and sounds kinda grindy but the photos are good.
 
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Wth:D did you mean 8000?
I don't use AI noise reduction, but I may consider a tiny bit of standard noise reduction by ISO 16k or so.
Nope I meant 800. I should qualify it with "and when I am taking photos in badly lit environments" which happens frequently when I am taking photos at indoor birthday parties...
My copy of the lens was barely used and, like I mentioned, it was bought on a modern era, so I'd assume Canon had their quality control issues solved by then.
Also, pretty much all reviews of that lens show it as being pretty crappy wide open:unsure:
Incidentally I had a EF 50 1.4 and absolutely hated it - sold it for a EF 50 1.2 and did not like that one as well... that sort of put me off the 50mm fl, until Canon saw fit to provide a 50mm that I liked, the RF 1.2
 
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Still hoping :) Nikon can do it... I'm not gonna moan that I'm switching brands immediately but honestly it is something that stops me from buying new Canon lenses. It may happen.
Canon obviously can do it, but I don't think they are minded to. They decided for whatever reason to omit the top lcd screen in the original R6, and a substantial redesign in subsequent iterations seems unlikely. Hope against reason leads to disappointment *shrug*
 
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You make me wonder if I had a bad copy. My EF 50mm f/1.4, wide open, was the softest autofocus lens I ever had, even on the 20MP R6. I bought it brand new in 2018, and made barely over 1000 shots with it.

Stopping down of course helped a lot, but so it did with other lenses.
At f/1.4 in closeup scenarios it is not really good. From 1.5m onwards it's good to have f/1.4 for thinner DOF or more gain of light. Corners are not great but usable, Center is in my opinion good at f/1.4. First image is close to the left corner, the 2nd image is close to the center, roughly 1.5 m /5 feet distance. Both at f/1.4, light a cheap high power LED torch. Both images are screenshots of the 100% views of jpegs with a softer profile (Technicolor) and not too much sharpening.1759935241569.pngThis on the 24 MPix on the R6 ii. 1759935304094.png
 
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At f/1.4 in closeup scenarios it is not really good. From 1.5m onwards it's good to have f/1.4 for thinner DOF or more gain of light. Corners are not great but usable, Center is in my opinion good at f/1.4. First image is close to the left corner, the 2nd image is close to the center, roughly 1.5 m /5 feet distance. Both at f/1.4, light a cheap high power LED torch. Both images are screenshots of the 100% views of jpegs with a softer profile (Technicolor) and not too much sharpening.
Yeah, I'd say my copy of the lens was softer, but the chromatic aberrations are definitely at the same level, geez. The best thing I did was replacing it with the Sigma 50 Art.

Nope I meant 800. I should qualify it with "and when I am taking photos in badly lit environments" which happens frequently when I am taking photos at indoor birthday parties...
I must shoot very often without a flash, so I guess we just have to do what we have to do :)
I know I can easily trust my R6 at up to 6400 ISO, with 12800 still being usable. Beyond that, I should think if the picture really is that important, but I've had assignments where, for the entire duration of the events, I had to stay above 3200/6400.
 
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Canon has just recently come aboard with the V10, V1, and R50 V.
Now, if only Canon had a selection of first party primes and a bunch of inexpensive Chinese 3rd party primes to attract users to the platform. The new Viltrox 9mm f2.8 is an incredible lens for E and Z that is currently on sale at $159. Perhaps Canon shouldn't have threatened to sue the Korean & Chinese AF RF lens makers into oblivion a few years back. (This problem will only get worse once the Chinese start making AF zooms, expected for later this year or early next year.)

It would also help if Canon didn't insist on the much smaller 1.6x sensor size instead of the more reasonable 1.5x, but that bridge has been long crossed and I don't think Canon will ever fix it.

Canon is still able to gather a lot of users by coasting on their brand recognition, but that will not last forever. And yes, they are coasting. Sensors are too small. No BSI (even more important on smaller sensors). Lens selection is poor, often slow, and often overpriced relative to performance.

I hope Canon wakes up and starts innovating again. I want the Canon of 20-30 years ago back, not the Canon of today.
 
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I must shoot very often without a flash, so I guess we just have to do what we have to do :)
I know I can easily trust my R6 at up to 6400 ISO, with 12800 still being usable. Beyond that, I should think if the picture really is that important, but I've had assignments where, for the entire duration of the events, I had to stay above 3200/6400.
I use strobes when doing fashion, but then I shoot at ISO 35 :)
When I do kids events I normally do not use any flash. In those cases the need for fast shutter (kids in action) and the terrible lighting of indoor venues often require ISO above 1600.

In the end, everyone has their own tolerance to noise in the image
 
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That's quite reasonable for an F/4 to F/5.6 lens of that nature. It would run circles around Sonys 200-600 that's for sure.
Well a 1/3 of a stop is 26% more light and I'm sure it'll be high quality but I think you're heavily overstating the difference and I can't see many people paying this much for a 200-600mm f/5.6 and if it's the same high quality as the RF 100-300mm f/2.8 I suspect it'll be much closer to that lense's price of $10,500 USD
 
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Well a 1/3 of a stop is 26% more light and I'm sure it'll be high quality but I think you're heavily overstating the difference and I can't see many people paying this much for a 200-600mm f/5.6 and if it's the same high quality as the RF 100-300mm f/2.8 I suspect it'll be much closer to that lense's price of $10,500 USD
I suspect Canon will reason that one zoomlens will replace a number of primes: 300mm and 400mm f4 (if the rumor is correct), 500mm and 600mm f5.6. Nikon’s 400mm pf lens is +/- 3000$, the 600mm pf lens normal price is +/- 5000$.

I also have my doubts about the rumored price for the RF 300-600mm. The rumored price of 6499-6999$ is about 60% of the 2013 11800$ launch price of EF 200-400mm f4 + 1.4 extender.
 
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If the R6mkiii really hits 30-32 MP it basically counts a EOS Rii :ROFLMAO:
Ah, I would have loved a truly mkii version of that camera! Just should've kept the size, replace the Touch Bar with a joystick, give it proper FPS and new AF :) voila, my absolute perfect camera! R5 comes close though.
Oh man, you are so right. I upgraded my R to an R6mkii, and while the R6 is a much better camera, those ergonomics with a joystick and R6mkiii functions would be perfect.
 
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Ah, Canon finally getting around to releasing a lens that can complete with Sony's 6 year old 200-600? And the Canon lens only costs somewhere between 3x and 5x the Sony's price? Wow, what a great deal!
It is not true in every region, but Canon's 200-800 is cheaper than Sony's 200-600 here.
Yes, it did take a while for Canon to catch up, but Sony had a long head start.
 
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Ah yes, Sony users. The same users who buy truckloads of 60mp a7R & a7CR cameras with an extremely slow sensor that produces stunning images. Yep. Sony users are the ones to blame for this. The a7 IV's 33mp sensor is also very slow, and the a7 V looks pretty likely to have the same sensor. Amazing image quality. Great dynamic range and very low noise. But also slow readout. Yet the a7 and a7C series are regularly the top selling FF cameras.

Canon seems to be making the same mistake as Nikon made with the Z6 III and chasing readout speed at the expense of image quality. Hopefully Sony does not make that same mistake.

Some folks need readout speed for what they shoot. Some folks do not need readout speed for what they shoot. Pay your money, make your choice.
 
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