Canon Selling Well in Japan, and Three New EOS R Cameras Confirmed

The R also had bigger battery. But I don't know how much weight IBIS ads. I guess the main weight difference comes from how much metal the body contains. I'd be totally fine with modern plastic, doesn't need to be full of magnesium alloy (even thought it sounds good in marketing materials).

BTW I'm also surprised how little weight difference there is between the R6 and R5 but it feels really a lot.
The LP-E17 is "significantly" lighter and smaller than the LP-E6NH. If my google search is correct, there is a 30 gr difference which is a lot for such a small component. The more important part is that the smaller and more compact battery allows Canon to design the camera as compact as possible. Of course, one could wish the R8 would use the LP-E6 serious (oh that battery life) but it would the camera bigger and heavier and therefore miss the point of the R8.
 
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Imo the LP-E 17 is about 10 years old without an update. Correct me if I am wrong.
Might be an easy way to improve the performance of the small bodies like the R8 by updating those batteries.
 
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The LP-E17 is "significantly" lighter and smaller than the LP-E6NH. If my google search is correct, there is a 30 gr difference which is a lot for such a small component. The more important part is that the smaller and more compact battery allows Canon to design the camera as compact as possible. Of course, one could wish the R8 would use the LP-E6 serious (oh that battery life) but it would the camera bigger and heavier and therefore miss the point of the R8.
Yes there must be LP-E17 in the R8, I completely agree. I was talking about my "dream" camera that would be probably heavier than the R8 but still not as heavy as the R5 or even the R6
 
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In some cases yes. In other cases they have an APS-C camera and one or two APS-C lenses. None of that is transferable to the most likely upgrade path (full frame) for someone who is getting more serious about photography. They might choose to stay within the same brand for ergonomic reasons, or reasons of general familiarity, but they're going to have to replace their glass. With that in mind, I think many people moving from APS-C to FF do consider options across brands, the same as they did when they bought initially.
I doubt there is much brand-swapping moving from APS-C to FF. There is definitely brand-swapping, I just don't think moving between sensor sizes initiate it unless you're using a brand that doesn't offer what you are looking for. Most enthusiasts will have gotten themselves some nice lenses that aren't APS-C specific (there's a reason Canon offer very few APS-C lenses, two of which are very niche) though plus maybe a flash unit and other items. Even if they did get a very nice and niche APS-C lens, they aren't hampered going to FF the same way they were back in the days of optical viewfinders when Canon EF-S lenses could only be used on EF-S compatible bodies.
 
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Oh.. film MP, not the 240. One of Leica's genius model naming schemes. Though I have read that the rear dial can be troublesome.
The main advantage of the MP over the normal version is the easy access to both rangefinder adjustments, height and side. All you need, depending on the version, is an Allen hex key and one or two screwdrivers. But please, get them both from PB Swiss, world's best screwdrivers! :)
 
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The R also had bigger battery. But I don't know how much weight IBIS ads. I guess the main weight difference comes from how much metal the body contains. I'd be totally fine with modern plastic, doesn't need to be full of magnesium alloy (even thought it sounds good in marketing materials).
Weight is one thing but metal vs plastic is also an issue for thermal management / dissipation.
One of the main discussion points for all new bodies with increasing video functions is their thermal profile for overheating.
Of course, special polymers adding graphene/carbon nanotubes etc can be a good conductor so it gets down to cost.
 
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Weight is one thing but metal vs plastic is also an issue for thermal management / dissipation.
One of the main discussion points for all new bodies with increasing video functions is their thermal profile for overheating.
Of course, special polymers adding graphene/carbon nanotubes etc can be a good conductor so it gets down to cost.
Sure. I don't need video so it would be fine for me. The thing is that I want a camera that will never exist. I noticed that a lot of people here love bigger cameras (I like the R body the most). A lot of people want high-megapixel sensor. I don't care about those things. I just want a camera that is easy to use, has all the features (I don't mean specs, I mean things like I can save the settings on a memory card etc). I didn't used to care about high fps for still but I have to admit that now with pre-shooting and easy way to select one or few pics from a burst the high fps is useful.
 
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Too big and heavy :D
No I'm not joking. I really used the R5ii (also R6, R8, R) and it is that the R was the perfect size. R6 is acceptable (but without the top LCD) and the R5 is just too big and heavy. Call me crazy but that's what I feel and I returned the R5ii.
I meant Rii as a successor to the original EOS R. I know, it is never ever gonna happen...oh wait, maybe in 2068 as a retro version to celebrate 50 years RF mount. :ROFLMAO: But that camera would be my personal dream concerning size and weight (or maybe even a bit lighter).
 
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I meant Rii as a successor to the original EOS R. I know, it is never ever gonna happen...oh wait, maybe in 2068 as a retro version to celebrate 50 years RF mount. :ROFLMAO: But that camera would be my personal dream concerning size and weight (or maybe even a bit lighter).
Sorry, I was reading too fast :D
Yeah let's wait for 2068. But I wonder if there will be any cameras :D
 
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Sure. I don't need video so it would be fine for me. The thing is that I want a camera that will never exist. I noticed that a lot of people here love bigger cameras (I like the R body the most). A lot of people want high-megapixel sensor. I don't care about those things. I just want a camera that is easy to use, has all the features (I don't mean specs, I mean things like I can save the settings on a memory card etc). I didn't used to care about high fps for still but I have to admit that now with pre-shooting and easy way to select one or few pics from a burst the high fps is useful.
Sounds like you want an OM-1 II. 599 grams.
 
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This thread seems to have drifted off!
Sony has two high end cameras the A1 series and the A9 series so Canon definitely has room for the R1 & R3 and making the R3 MKII a high MP camera around the 45-50MP makes a lot of sense.
The R7 MKII needs to be a APS-C version of either the R1 or R3 which will move up its price but the R10 MKII could be improved and moved up where the R7 sits now. I have the current R10 and it’s a great camera I use for wildlife which is not my main area of photography being mainly a portrait shooter & landscape using the R5 for portraits and the R6 MKIII for landscapes.
The R10 paired with the RF 200-800mm has been a great combo and I also use the RF 100-400mm as a walk around wildlife lens the two together are so lightweight that’s the combo I travel abroad with on vacation adding the Sigma 18-50mm f2.8.
The R10 MKII at 30PM would be ideal along with slightly faster shutter speed and the enhanced AF (it struggles with the RF 200-800mm at the long end with birds in flight).
 
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