Canon EF 600mm f/4L IS III coming ahead of Photokina [CR3]

[Mt Spokane Photography]

It's funny how CR admin is reporting this. "We can confirm that the second “Big White Lens” coming ahead of Photokina will be the Canon EF 600mm f/4L IS III". If you can confirm why it is CR3?

Cr3 means its for sure. Thats why a CR3.

 

[Canon Rumors]

Cr3 means its for sure. Thats why a CR3.

I guess I don't have the rating scale up anymore, I'll fix that tomorrow.

It's back up: https://www.canonrumors.com/the-canon-rumors-rating-system-explained/

 

[rikstir]

But the 200-400 is about the same weight of the 600. So an 300-600 f4 + 1.4x woul be muuuuch heavier. Except with DO elements

I could live with a little heavier, say like the original 400 2.8

 

[goldenhusky]

I guess I don't have the rating scale up anymore, I'll fix that tomorrow.

It's back up: https://www.canonrumors.com/the-canon-rumors-rating-system-explained/

My bad for some reason I was thinking there was a CR4 (running 5 steps CR0 to CR4). Thanks for posting the rating scale

 

[djack41]

I have been waiting for the 600mm DO but life is short. I will buy the new 600mm lll.

 

[goldenhusky]

Cr3 means its for sure. Thats why a CR3.

Thank you.

 

[Mr Majestyk]

Does it make sense to upgrade all this glass right before launching a new MILF FF mount? I think it does not. Therefore, my intuition is that the new MILF FF Canon camera will use the EF mount, or some variation of it that may be full compatible with existing EF lenses. But what about the flange distance and focus motor differences required by a MILF camera. Well, maybe these lenses have some hidden upgrade in the focus actuation and/or hardware/firmware that make them more suitable to MILF cameras. In this case, the recent “upgrade” on the 70-200 f2,8 III which apparently didn’t upgrade much, could actually be a “stealth” upgrade, already including internal features that are only going to become relevant once the new MILF FF camera is announced/released...

You'll see that this has nothing to do with mirrorless. Canon won't be targeting professional sports use or the such with their mirrorless at this stage. These lenses will form the backbone of their 2020 Olympics lineup along with the 1DX III. You won't see a mirrorless competitor to A9 for a long time from Canon or Nikon which will also release a D6 next year. The best you can hope for is very good AF speed when used on an adapter on their mirrorless. Will Canon have the AF to match Sony and Nikon's mirrorless though? We know Nikon is targeting A73 and A7R3 and AF is over 400 AF points

 

[Ozarker]

Canon Rumors Guy,

If I sell my 400mm II lens right now, how long will I have to wait before being able to purchase and have the new version in hand?

57 days. 55 days if you have it overnighted, unless it is overnight via the United States Post Office. In that case you'll wait 62 days.

 

[Meatcurry]

I'm just hoping here that Canon have decided that DO elements are now just part of the lens design and that naming lens with DO in the title is no longer a thing, I did a qick search and found this:-

I wonder if thats why the 600 DO prototype has a red ring?

 

[docsmith]

There are several ways that they could save weight. As long as they do so, while keeping build quality and IQ, excellent.

 

[Ladislav]

I'm still waiting for some 24-70 @ 2.8 Photokina CR3! It is getting close and there is again complete radio silence. And I will even not start about the unicorn (new 50).

Anyway. This is interesting pair to be released together considering how they were released previously. Maybe they will not be just refreshes with new coatings. If these are not just refreshes it will also be interesting to see what will happen with prices - both prices of new models and used MK.II.

 

[padam]

This is how it is expected to look. Weight could be down much closer to 500/4 IS II level (but the price will probably climb)

 

[Antono Refa]

Both the EF 600mm f/4L IS USM and the mkII are newer than the 50mm f/1.4

And I would have bet the 50mm f/1.4 is so much more profitable...

 

[Bambel]

(...) MILF FF mount

I know there has been talk about a "sexy solution" for the new mount but i didn't expect it to be.. that sexy

B.

 

[tron]

I know there has been talk about a "sexy solution" for the new mount but i didn't expect it to be.. that sexy

B.

 

[tron]

I wonder how much lighter the new 600 can be. The DO prototype that lacked AF and IS weighted 3.2Kg.
The current 600 4L IS II weighs 3.9Kg...

 

[ethanz]

I know there has been talk about a "sexy solution" for the new mount but i didn't expect it to be.. that sexy

B.

I wanted to comment on that, but didn't know if anyone else would understand. Glad you did.

 

[takesome1]

I am going to speculate.
New Coating
2 ounces
and $4,000 more

Now to hope,
New Coating
2 pounds
2 more stops of IS
and it is the same price as the II

 

[tron]

2 pounds ~ 0.9 Kg would make it lighter than a DO version! Not likely but we can always hope...
Regarding coatings Canon's Sub Wavelength Coating (that all big white teles have) seems similarly good with ASC

http://www.canon.com.hk/cpx/en/technical/pa_ASC-Reduction_of_Flare_and_Ghosting.html

Actually this is just my interepretation. But, I do not believe reduction of flare can be quantified and so compared in theory.

 

[yavuz]

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Dont need to upgrade 600 or 400 .. they need to upgrade 7dm2 and 5dsr