Get RP you won’t regret it! I can’t believe you can stand T3i that long.. i shoot more portrait, I absolutely can not stand SL2, and I’m not regretting the upgrade... especiallly for the price. (Greentoe accept my offer &1069 with adapter)I've been following CR for quite sometime, but only now joined the forum.
As someone who got into the DSLR realm only 5-½ years ago with my current Rebel T3i and a handful of basic lenses, I have been anxiously waiting for this 80D/7D replacement model for over a year.
I would consider myself an advanced amateur, and am wanting to take the next logical step up. I'm not quite at the level of needing to go deep into the 5D/6D FF world (financial-wise and otherwise). And, IMHO, the mirrorless industry is still in its infancy.
Getting a top-of-the-line crop sensor DSLR, plus getting a few more new/better EF lenses (I already bought my first L lens secondhand - the 70-200 F/2.8 for half the price), including the Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 (to step up from my Nifty-50), Tamron 18-400mm F/3.5-6.3, plus a decent macro lens and a decent wide-angle lens for landscape photography.
I figure that if my abilities over the next 5 years take the next logical step (in becoming a part-time professional), it is then that I'll move up to a FF, with mirrorless technology being much more mature by then. I could imagine an well-tested "R-5D" with an EF adapter as being my next step up in 2024.
So, for me, this "90D" will work perfectly for me. Been chomping at the bit for many months now.
If it uses XQD cards, I'm ok with one slot. The chances of failure are very small to begin with. Coupled with the fact that the XQD uses a different writing sequence much more like a PCIe internal SSD drive if there is a failure it's usually on a block level where only one or two individual pictures might be corrupt, not the whole card like with older media.According to specs speculated, it looks to be more in a 7D territory, than it ever was in the 80D territory - dual digic, dual card slot? IIRC never was the case with the xxD line. Weather sealing should be imo OK. Wonder about the joystick. Maybe Canon is trying to create kind of Nikon 500/850 universal soldier.
But - if new 90D does not kind of replace 7DII, I wonder what data Canon had, to give-up on what many ppl might think as a successful model. For me, a bit surprising ...
Out of curiosity, is there anything out there that shows just how much worse the 80D is at handling bad weather than the 7D II? As I don't have any truly weather sealed lenses (Sigma 150-600mm C has a rubber gasget at least) and no interest in getting wet myself, I only used my 80D in drizzle. But I did that with my T3i as well without issues, and that had no sealing at all.
OK seriously: what is it with the Mirrorless Cult? It's getting to the point where mirrorless shooters are expecting a spaceship to appear in the sky to transport them and their Nikes to a planet with nothing but super model filled national parks, leaving the heathen mirror slappers behind. And of course if that UFO isn't filled with Canon mirrorless cameras then CANON. IS. DOOMED.
DSLRs still out sell mirrorless cameras, and do so by wide margins in north America and Europe. There is still a large market of people who want the DSLR form factor and an OVF. Yes, yes, sooner or later those sales will cross over. And guess what? Even then, for years, there will still be a market for DSLRs. Mirrorless is not a paradigm shift, and quite frankly it still, after a decade of being developed and pushed, still has some cons vs SLRs. We can nitpick the small differences between the two designs, but honestly if you can't get the shot with a 7D mark II or a 90D...you're probably not going to get it with mirrorless either.
The entire ILC market is experiencing severe contraction as people rely more and more on phones. And let's face it, there's also a bit of consumer exhaustion with all the photos out there. Hoping for the 90D to flop is the same as hoping you have a smaller market with fewer options, from Canon or any manufacturer, in the future.
Yeah, I don’t get this whole mirrorless revolution either.
"market share" is typically based on revenue.
Yes, dtaylor, the 5D is a fine camera for the purposes you describe: landscape, studio and I myself will even add: for occasional action stills. The 1D-series is the action-beast with terrific performance for action photography.
The 90D will be an allrounder because the rumoured specs and all other 'leaks' show clearly it is aimed at a multitude of users (both stills and video). No all-rounder can match the 7D Mk II as an speedy action camera.
I also don't get the mirrorless cult. Some people are unhinged, hoping that Canon flops with the 90D just so they can have more one fewer camera with a mirror. It's creepy, the limitless hate for something that doesn't affect their lives at all. You people, please see a doctor.
And yes, I can stand (OHMYGOSH) using a T5. I know, it's like how can I SURVIVE using something that isn't the latestgreatestshinytech???
I do find it hard to believe that everyone else has quit eating caramel corn, Cracker Jack, and the like, besides me.
Can you specify how much equivalent it is to the 90D?There is a mirrorless version, It's called the Canon EOS M6 Mark II
Have you thought about the EOS RP? EF lenses work great on it and the EOS R with the adaptor. You're absolutely in the middle of the demographic that Canon wants to encourage into FF mirrorless, hence the pricing on the EOS RP (and the cut-down 5Diii which is the EOS R for those with a bit more money to spend).
Get RP you won’t regret it! I can’t believe you can stand T3i that long.. i shoot more portrait, I absolutely can not stand SL2, and I’m not regretting the upgrade... especiallly for the price. (Greentoe accept my offer &1069 with adapter)
Yeah, I don’t get this whole mirrorless revolution either. I guess to some folks, when they pick up something different everything that came before it is just useless. I’m very much in the newer isn’t always better camp myself.
70%+ gave thumbs up and look at all of the following consensus.I wonder why anyone wish others to fail? As you know, Canon is commited to their R line and develop a growing line of RF lenses. So why "wish" that the DSLR will be a "flopp"? By the way, anger attitude generate wrinkls on people face if you haven't noticed that already.
For some of us that uses DSLR to shoot video more than photos, are you saying that we can't demand for mirrorless? I mean, after all, when shooting video, it's practically a mirrorless device to capture the video. So why not push it a bit further and demand for the removal of the mirror?OK seriously: what is it with the Mirrorless Cult? It's getting to the point where mirrorless shooters are expecting a spaceship to appear in the sky to transport them and their Nikes to a planet with nothing but super model filled national parks, leaving the heathen mirror slappers behind. And of course if that UFO isn't filled with Canon mirrorless cameras then CANON. IS. DOOMED.
DSLRs still out sell mirrorless cameras, and do so by wide margins in north America and Europe. There is still a large market of people who want the DSLR form factor and an OVF. Yes, yes, sooner or later those sales will cross over. And guess what? Even then, for years, there will still be a market for DSLRs. Mirrorless is not a paradigm shift, and quite frankly it still, after a decade of being developed and pushed, still has some cons vs SLRs. We can nitpick the small differences between the two designs, but honestly if you can't get the shot with a 7D mark II or a 90D...you're probably not going to get it with mirrorless either.
The entire ILC market is experiencing severe contraction as people rely more and more on phones. And let's face it, there's also a bit of consumer exhaustion with all the photos out there. Hoping for the 90D to flop is the same as hoping you have a smaller market with fewer options, from Canon or any manufacturer, in the future.
Because there is room for both.For some of us that uses DSLR to shoot video more than photos, are you saying that we can't demand for mirrorless? I mean, after all, when shooting video, it's practically a mirrorless device to capture the video. So why not push it a bit further and demand for the removal of the mirror?
of course! what did you assumed?Because there is room for both.