What’s next from Canon?

I really need a 2nd body right now. I would like a second R6 mk II, but it would kill Me if they announced the Mk III right after I bought another mk II.
If you really need something now, buy it now. The price is good, and when the MkIII comes out (which may not be anytime soon), it will be difficult to obtain and full price.
 
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R7 mark ii. Would be nice. A much better sensor to get rid of the rolling shutter and a better VF. Everything else about that camera isn't bad.
The R7's EVF isn't bad IMO. When I got my R7 I was skeptical about its mediocre resolution, but my first test convinced me: I attached my EF 85mm f/1.2, opened it's aperture completely, switched to manual focus and switched off any little focusing helper in the EVF. Then I discovered that I could focus that super fast lens easily just by the blank EVF on an eye of a person sitting at a table. So it turned out that even the blank EVF offers more information than e.g. the OVF screen of my 5D4, with which I gave up trying to focus that lens manually wide open. So, the R7's EVF resolution isn't bad, and it brings the advantage that it doesn't drain the battery as fast as higher resolving EVFs.

But I agree with the read-out speed of the sensor, that's one of the very few weaknesses of the R7 in practice. Plus, Canon should make an R7 II's body a tad beefier again (better for tele photography) and return to the classic separate thumb wheel and joystick positions, the current small combination is nearly impossible to use with gloves in winter.

That said, overall the current R7 still offers quite a nice price-performance ratio, I like it. And 15 fps with mechanical shutter - I mean,only a few years ago this would have been the wet dream of any big pro DSLR user!
 
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So it turned out that even the blank EVF offers more information than e.g. the OVF screen of my 5D4, with which I gave up trying to focus that lens manually wide open.
The ability to manually focus a fast lens more accurately on the R7 has nothing to do with the resolution of the EVF. The ‘problem’ wasn’t the OVF of your 5DIV, but the focusing screen. The stock focus screen in DSLRs is designed to deliver sufficient brightness with slower (f/4-5.6) lenses, but as a consequence of that it cannot show the true DoF of lenses faster than about f/2.5.

On my 5DII, I had the Eg-S focus screen that was able to show the true DoF of fast lenses, and it was great to watch a subject ‘pop’ into focus with the 85/1.2L II. Later DSLRs did not have swappable focus screens so seeing the true DoF wasn’t possible.

The DoF simulation of the R3 and other recent MILCs brings back that ability, and since gain can be applied to the EVF, you don’t have to trade a dark VF with slower lenses for it.
 
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I'm not super mad about mine, the iso noise at 6400 is bad and the AF focus in low light isn't great either and thats what sold me to buy it, all these reviews saying its AF was great in low light.
For lowlight, mine is good enough for me, and way (!) better than the 5Dm4 AF was. I wouldn't call it "great" for lowlight but pretty impressive.
In daylight, I think it is really great.
 
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Disclaimer:
Maybe you are right, and I am wrong about a R6 Mk III.
But I am just trying to see things from a Canon perspective.
Not from a consumer perspective, who wants to get the latest of it all.
I am not saying I´m right and intend to say it. Obviously, I can't prove it at all. For me, it just makes sense given the points I stated. I know Canon is a bit conservative/ cautious (still not the right word I am looking for) sometimes, but they've also proven to be very innovative with lens design and quicker release if needed. We´ll just have to wait and see. How long we wait depends on how is right :)
 
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One can hope. I was very surprised the R7 had no grip option. Nor does the R8 (at least, one that takes a battery).
I was very surprised the R7 didn't get a grip. So were many sales people at Canon Germany as was told. I believe it was due to some kind of shortage and Canon had to prioritize productions. Am really curious if the R7mkii will get a BG once it's going to be released.

I was not surprised at all that the R8 didn't get a grip. It aims to be small, extremely lightweight ff camera and a BG would have suited this idea.
 
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My point was they aren't really trying to compete with Nikon. Canon has 3x the market share. Nikon has just barely shut off their user hemorrhage. Will you next suggest they should compete with Fuji? Leica?

It really puzzles me when people argue that Sony released this or Nikon released that so Canon has to respond. There's no real reason for them do do so. Conversely, if Canon releases something, it's often in Sony and Nikon's best interest to release something different. It's hard to fight the 800-lb gorilla for the bamboo he's eating.
I agree to some extent. For example, Canon doesn't care about the Sony a1 and that the R1 will be an entire different kind of flagship camera. They shouldn't care because a A1 type of camera won´t drive Canon sales number. The R6/ Z6/ A7 lineup is a different story because those drive sales in great volumes. You don´t want to fall behind in this category.

Yes, at the moment Nikon doesn't really compete with Canon. But Canon is interested that things stay this way and therefore they will be monitoring their numbers and sales. If the Canon wants to be No 1 in mirrorless cameras (as I understand Canon is #1 for DSLR & DSLM and Sony is #for DSLM solely) they can't lose market share to Nikon if they want to pass Sony.

About competing lenses and competition: In some cases they don't bother such as RF 100-500mm... after four years no manufacturer offers an equivalent. But if you compare the Sony 35mm F1.4 GM and the RF 35mm F1.4 L VCM.... boy oh boy are they similar. Also, it will be really interesting to see how similar the 24/28-70mm F2 are when Sony releases its version of it.
Tell that to the R5 C owners who shoot stills and would like to use the EL-5 or the EL-10. Tell that to R100 users who want to use an RF extender or the 85/1.2 DS (heck, there may even be one or two ;) ).
I didn´t know that about the R5C and what's that all about. Shooting on a R100 with a RF85mm F1.2 just sounds wrong :) Kind like driving a Citroen 2CV with formula one tires :)
There have been big price drops on the R8 and R50, as well. So those will be replaced soon, right?
In Germany, the R8 startet at 1.799 € and well above the starting price for the RP (1.499 € including the RF-EF standard adapter for about 100 €). With the current price drops for the R8 (200 € drop + 200 € rebate) it kind of exactly hits the price point of the RP at its introduction. So I don´t know, in this case I would see it as a sign because to me (and a lot of press articles in Germany) the R8 was overpriced at its introduction and even retailers recommended waiting for a sure to come price drop.

The price drop of the R6mkii is much more intense. From 2.899 € to currently 2299 € or 1.899 € (when buying a lens with it) is a steeper drop. The R6 had a maxim rebate of 200 € (from 2499 € to 2.299 €) until the sales started shortly before the R6mkii was introduced.

Of course, Canon could have planned ahead and calculate the price drops into the starting price of the R6 at its introduction. I don't know...
 
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