New Adobe feature, Boundary Warp.

[privatebydesign]

I know Adobe is a bit of a dirty word around here but today's update to ACR and LR introduced a new feature which seems very powerful and useful for those that do stitches. Lots of new lens profiles and normal stuff too, but it seems to me Boundary Warp is a genuinely new feature.

http://blogs.adobe.com/jkost/2016/01/adobe-camera-raw-9-4-and-lightroom-6-4-are-now-available-with-boundary-warp.html

 

[scyrene]

Yeah, I saw the report on DPR and was very excited by this feature. Updated my software - where is it? Checked the Adobe website and lo - it's CC subscribers only again. Screwed once more.

I wouldn't mind paying a small amount to add features like this to the standalone program, but that's not an option. Very disappointing.

 

[privatebydesign]

Nonsense, you are not 'screwed once more' you bought a product that has more functionality now than it did when you bought it, you just didn't get the new features you were never told you were going to get, you did get the RAW update with camera and lens profiles and bug fixes for free though, how is that screwing you?

 

[3kramd5]

^^ Large swaths of society consider not getting what they didn't earn to be getting screwed. Not getting what you didn't pay for is hardly a stretch

 

[Stu_bert]

Thanks for sharing PBD.

In it's simplest form / examples shown, isn't it just doing the same as a manual lens correction of the resultant pano?

For the more complex warps, it does appear to be doing more jiggery to fit the frame....

So, how would one "report" that to a buyer - "I warped the pano to make it fit better", and is warping better than content fill - from a judging perspective as there is no "fake" data??

If Adobe continue to actually produce useful features like this for photographers, I may (re)consider a subscription, and retain my stand-alone versions for parallel use.

Did subscription reduce the number of instances from 2 to 1 as LR 6 did I believe (or maybe LR 6 was the first to enforce?)

 

[Stu_bert]

They also fixed the Soft proofing "bug"

"Soft Proofing RGB readout values differed for same file between 5.7.1 and 6.x"

and photo merge should be twice as quick, even for the stand-alone users

I'm fine (now) with the new features being cloud only, so long as I get the bug fixes and lens profiles.

I also requested on their survey page that maybe they should offer a LR only subscription sans Photoshop...

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

I just tried it on a set of 4 images that I considered to be failures in Lightroom. These look the same, maybe slightly better, but still poor. The sky is mostly cutoff. It also creates a dng file, which I have no use for. I prefer the more universal tiff file from Photoshop.

1. Original Panorama in Lightroom

2. Original Panorama with content aware fill in Photoshop

3. New Panorama created with the Boundary Warp in Lightroom.

 

[tpatana]

Interesting, must try.

 

[privatebydesign]

I just tried it on a set of 4 images that I considered to be failures in Lightroom. These look the same, maybe slightly better, but still poor. The sky is mostly cutoff. It also creates a dng file, which I have no use for. I prefer the more universal tiff file from Photoshop.

1. Original Panorama in Lightroom

2. Original Panorama with content aware fill in Photoshop

3. New Panorama created with the Boundary Warp in Lightroom.

I am getting very different results, as Adobe say buildings near edges need a little help, but I am getting the best of Content Aware Fill and Auto Crop.

If you don't like dng then do the merge in PS via Bridge and Save As anything you like.

1/ As merged
2/ Auto Crop
3/ Boundary Warp

 

[tpatana]

Hmm. I just updated LR. I don't have that slider at the merge menu. What I'm doing wrong?

 

[privatebydesign]

Hmm. I just updated LR. I don't have that slider at the merge menu. What I'm doing wrong?

You have to have LR CC, do the download and close LR. When you open it again it will be there in the Panorama Options box with the panorama preview.

 

[tpatana]

Hmm. I just updated LR. I don't have that slider at the merge menu. What I'm doing wrong?

You have to have LR CC, do the download and close LR. When you open it again it will be there in the Panorama Options box with the panorama preview.

Yup on all those. Still no warp.

 

[tpatana]

Here's the Adobe example:

Mine looks otherwise same but without the warp slider.

 

[tpatana]

Strange. So the LR System info menu says:

Lightroom version: CC 2015.3 [ 1052427 ]
License: Creative Cloud
Operating system: Windows 7
Version: 6.1

Should that say 6.4? The Creative Cloud Dashboard don't ask for update anymore, but it did update hour or two ago. And I've restarted LR several times. Maybe time to reboot PC?

 

[tpatana]

Rebooted PC, still no warp

Adobe don't love me

 

[AvTvM]

"That don't impress me .."
New feature seems to be of rather limited use.

Will continue to not rent CC but continue to use LR 5.7 until i buy a new camera that is not supported. Then .. Bye bye Adobe.

 

[KeithBreazeal]

Yeah, I saw the report on DPR and was very excited by this feature. Updated my software - where is it? Checked the Adobe website and lo - it's CC subscribers only again. Screwed once more.

I wouldn't mind paying a small amount to add features like this to the standalone program, but that's not an option. Very disappointing.

Same here. I just opened a forum discussion on this and flamed them.
"I want to install Boundary Warp in LR 6.4 but bought the software on disc. I have spent good money on Adobe products over several years and find being shut out of updates like this to be insulting. I helped support you financially. Worst way to treat a customer ever."

 

[Maiaibing]

Adobe GIF on their home page shows the limited usability of this feature.

Problem: Do not want to cut cactus top from pano.

Solution: I'll make the mountains in the background slide down a hill.

It will have uses. But its certainly not a wonder slide.

 

[LDS]

"I want to install Boundary Warp in LR 6.4 but bought the software on disc. I have spent good money on Adobe products over several years and find being shut out of updates like this to be insulting. "

IMHO these new features will be in LR 7 - if they still release it standalone. Thus you may have to wait for the next release, as it usually happened in the past to get new features. If you want new features - not only updates (bug fixes and new cameras/lenses support) - and getting them as soon as they are developed, you have to get the subscription - looks perfectly reasonable to me.

Otherwise is just like asking Canon not only firmware updates and fixes to issues, but also a 5Ds because you own a 5DIII and Canon can't shut you out of updates like that...

 

[scyrene]

Nonsense, you are not 'screwed once more' you bought a product that has more functionality now than it did when you bought it, you just didn't get the new features you were never told you were going to get, you did get the RAW update with camera and lens profiles and bug fixes for free though, how is that screwing you?

I know. It's just annoying, okay? To see the same program getting more features in one version than another. Maybe if they called v6.x 'silver' and CC 'gold', it's be easier to come to terms with. I'm just pissed off at it, it's not necessarily a rational response. I'm allowed to be human *sometimes*