7DII feature requests...

[unfocused]

Just looking at this and the other threads on 7DII features (there are several almost identical ones) I have an observation: 7DII owners are pretty consistent in what they want. They want what they already have, just a little bit better.

That seems in sharp contrast to many of the other threads on this site, which seem to be dominated by people unhappy with their choices. I'm also surprised at how many 7D owners seem willing to pay a lot more for the next model. People throw around figures of $2,000 to $2,500 quite freely.

All this says to me is that regardless of what people may think of other recent Canon decisions, they sure got it right with the 7D. I really expect we will get about what we want. Canon is no doubt doing all sorts of market research and finding that 7D owners are generally content with the camera and just want it updated to take advantage of technological improvements of the past three years. I don't see them doing anything radical that might upset the apple cart. No merger with the 60D...no change in sensor size...no radical redesign.

As a side note, I do get the feeling that people who have actually bought the 5DIII are similarly satisfied. With the 7D II Canon decided to split the market into two segments, those who would pay a premium for a premium body and those who wouldn't (the 60D). Now, I think they've done the same thing with the full frame market with the 5DIII and the 6D.

 

[adhocphotographer]

7D II/70D, whatever the top APS-C camera turns out to be, I hope it keeps a lot of the 7D in it.

I would, at the minimum, be happy to see it with a new APS-C sensor with better ISO:noise... the rest would be a bonus... Wifi, GPS....

AF is great on the 7D, would suit me fine, maybe better -EV focus (-3 like 6D), but I don't think that would kill it for me.

What would kill it is the price... bring it in around 2000$... it will give people the choice... FF with low features, or crop which is pimped!

 

[DB]

The point about 7D owners seem to be more satisfied with their lot, has that not got to do with how Canon researched the functionality requirements of photographers? I read somewhere that Canon sent out a survey of 5,000 questionnaires to Pro photographers (possibly through CPS or CPN or whatever they call it - I'm not in the club so don't know) and basically collated the results, hence the 7D was born of desire...

.... people are a bit too hung up on price, I'd rather pay $2,500 for a 7D2 with everything, rather than $2000 with several key features missing (like GPS + WiFi)

 

[mucher]

Though I am not going to change camera in a few years, there is no harm to imagine:

1) 24mp is a must. Hopefully offered identical pixel performance as the D3X
2) Android 4.x with wifi
3) metal grade plastic outfit with metal skeleton
4) no built-in flash
5) better hand-tuned color balance than 7D(the current one is way too cold in color temperature)
6) announce at 2015

For now, I do think Canon needs to announce some HP pancakes like 20/2.8, 24/2.8, 35/2.8

 

[helpful]

* Don't need 18 MP, especially since its crammed into a much denser, smaller sensor.
* Exchange a bit of resolution for two stops better performance at every ISO level (truly two stops in RAW data, not just an improved JPEG engine--although three stops better JPEGs would be even more outstanding)
* Dual cards

This from someone who has used up the full life of five 7D camera bodies, and may well need a sixth one.

I definitely agree with the person's comment earlier in this thread, which said 7D owners like what they have, and just want it a little bit better.

 

[Deleted member 7828]

As far as I'm concerned, only one thing - better high ISO performance than 60D/T4i/M/other current 1.6x cams. Everything else is just bells/whistles.

 

[nicku]

- APS-H sensor with improved IQ
- same body size, construction
- at least same AF


the rest are details...

 

[jthomson]

I request that the 7D2 be a camera rather than a rumor...

Simple!

Amen Brother.

 

[rpt]

I request that the 7D2 be a camera rather than a rumor...

Simple!

Amen Brother.

good to know some folks get my humor... I am not alone!
(that may not be a good thing for you though ... )

 

[dtaylor]

* Don't need 18 MP, especially since its crammed into a much denser, smaller sensor.
* Exchange a bit of resolution for two stops better performance at every ISO level (truly two stops in RAW data, not just an improved JPEG engine--although three stops better JPEGs would be even more outstanding)

This isn't how it works. Noise is determined by total sensor size and technology level. If Canon made a 6 MP sensor with the same technology as the 18 MP one, the overall noise level would be the same. The texture of the noise would be different (larger and softer), but the amount would be the same.

Sony figured out how to read data off the sensor with less noise and patented it. This patent is the #1 thing holding Canon back right now. Pixel density has pretty much nothing to do with it as evidenced by the fact that Sony is achieving similar pixel densities with less noise / greater DR.

 

[dtaylor]

All this says to me is that regardless of what people may think of other recent Canon decisions, they sure got it right with the 7D.

Yes they did. It is still a top of the line, competitive APS-C body 3 years later.

As a side note, I do get the feeling that people who have actually bought the 5DIII are similarly satisfied.

No doubt. The 5D3 is a fine camera. But it should have been priced to compete with the D600. Maybe not as low because it is better, but it's not the counter point to the D800. Canon needs a high resolution FF. And Canon should have introduced the 6D at an even lower price.

 

[sagittariansrock]

I believe everyone agrees with the low noise/higher light sensitivity bit. Two cards will be great, too. I am sure Pros don't care about the Wifi and GPS, but I don't mind it.
I am low on technical knowhow here- but would lower noise and higher sensitivity depend MORE on the sensor or on the processor? (Please note the MORE- I am aware that both affect the output)