EOS 7D Mark II & Photokina

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<p>We’re <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2014/08/are-these-the-eos-7d-mark-ii-specifications/" target="_blank">standing by the specifications we posted a few days ago for the Canon EOS 7D Mark II</a>. We and others have received suggestions that the sensor in the camera is actually going to be 24mp, which contradicts the very solid evidence we have that says it will indeed be 20.2mp. What our information doesn’t specify is whether or not it’s the identical sensor to the EOS 70D.</p>
<p>If what we posted turns out not to be true, it will be the greatest hoax of specs that I have seen in the 6 years we’ve been around. I will release what we have in our possession after the announcement if it turns out we were wrong.</p>
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[zim]

Re: EOS 7D Mark II & Photokina

What our information doesn’t specify is whether or not it’s the identical sensor to the EOS 70D.</p>
<p>If what we posted turns out not to be true, it will be the greatest hoax of specs that I have seen in the 6 years we’ve been around.

But it could still be 20.2 and be a new improved sensor (not identical), what you've posted still true and for you not to have been hoaxed though, no?

 

[Canon1]

Re: EOS 7D Mark II & Photokina

The good news is that if it is a totally new sensor, it may be much better than the 70d and it will have better high ISO noise at 20.2 than 24 mp. Im all for a smaller sensor in aps-c. Truthfully, I wish it was closer to 12 or 16. We'd have a killer crop camera!

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

Re: EOS 7D Mark II & Photokina

The good news is that if it is a totally new sensor, it may be much better than the 70d and it will have better high ISO noise at 20.2 than 24 mp. Im all for a smaller sensor in aps-c. Truthfully, I wish it was closer to 12 or 16. We'd have a killer crop camera!

I'd be happier with a 16 megapixel sensor without dual pixel AF. Do not get me wrong. For the intended use of 7D Mark II (mini 1DX) the most important thing is a big improvement in noise above ISO 1600.

 

[raptor3x]

Re: EOS 7D Mark II & Photokina

The good news is that if it is a totally new sensor, it may be much better than the 70d and it will have better high ISO noise at 20.2 than 24 mp. Im all for a smaller sensor in aps-c. Truthfully, I wish it was closer to 12 or 16. We'd have a killer crop camera!

I'd be happier with a 16 megapixel sensor without dual pixel AF. Do not get me wrong. For the intended use of 7D Mark II (mini 1DX) the most important thing is a big improvement in noise above ISO 1600.

I don't know, I think dual pixel is really attractive if Canon implements that patent where dual pixel works in conjuction with the regular AF system. The most interesting thing about dual pixel AF (DPAF) is that it's precision scales with the maximum aperture of the lens whereas the regular phase detect system only offers a fixed precision based on the type of AF point used, though for a given aperture size traditional AF is supposedly more precise. This combined with the new feedback loop from the newer Canon lenses along with the ITR metering system from the 1DX propagating down to lesser bodies and I think AF is going be insanely good for the next generation of Canon bodies.

 

[Chaitanya]

Re: EOS 7D Mark II & Photokina

I will belive that a camera replacement for 7D exisits when canon will annnounce one. untill then its just a mythical camera used to shoot unicorns, snowman and the big foot.

 

[pierlux]

Re: EOS 7D Mark II & Photokina

If what we posted turns out not to be true, it will be the greatest hoax of specs that I have seen in the 6 years we’ve been around.

But it could still be 20.2 and be a new improved sensor (not identical), what you've posted still true and for you not to have been hoaxed though, no?

I remember voices from past Canon Rumors claiming different prototypes were around, couldn't it be the leaked specs are a mix of several different "experiments"?...

The good news is that if it is a totally new sensor, it may be much better than the 70d and it will have better high ISO noise at 20.2 than 24 mp. Im all for a smaller sensor in aps-c. Truthfully, I wish it was closer to 12 or 16. We'd have a killer crop camera!

Partly agreed. As I said in Don Haines' poll thread, either a low res/good high ISO IQ old tech sensor, or a high res/supposedly better high ISO IQ new tech sensor would do for me. I put better high ISO IQ than the 7D on top of the specs in order of importance, otherwise to me it's 70D or 80D.

 

[bseitz234]

Re: EOS 7D Mark II & Photokina

I will release what we have in our possession

So, someone sent you a pre-production sample?

 

[zim]

Re: EOS 7D Mark II & Photokina

I will release what we have in our possession

So, someone sent you a pre-production sample?

Yip, there is a photo of it on the home page, hiding in plain sight all along 8)

 

[bseitz234]

Re: EOS 7D Mark II & Photokina

I will release what we have in our possession

So, someone sent you a pre-production sample?

Yip, there is a photo of it on the home page, hiding in plain sight all along 8)

And all this time we thought that was a photoshop job... :

 

[Lee Jay]

Re: EOS 7D Mark II & Photokina

What our information doesn’t specify is whether or not it’s the identical sensor to the EOS 70D.

From the other post, "The sensor does have new technology".

How can you stand by what you said and contradict it at the same time?

 

[Canon Rumors]

Re: EOS 7D Mark II & Photokina

What our information doesn’t specify is whether or not it’s the identical sensor to the EOS 70D.

From the other post, "The sensor does have new technology".

How can you stand by what you said and contradict it at the same time?

I see what you're saying.

The new technology claim was because of the wording "fine detail" when describing the CMOS sensor. We then quickly learned that Canon has used that language with previous sensors such as the 5D Mark III and 70D. When we removed the "fine detail" point, I didn't update the rest of the post to reflect that.

I'm sorry for the confusion.

 

[Don Haines]

Re: EOS 7D Mark II & Photokina

What our information doesn’t specify is whether or not it’s the identical sensor to the EOS 70D.

From the other post, "The sensor does have new technology".

How can you stand by what you said and contradict it at the same time?

I see what you're saying, I didn't word that part of the post correctly. I will amend it.

Please don't take this the wrong way... but I won't believe anything until there is an official announcement.

Canon is VERY! good at keeping things secret... remember DPAF? This was the defining feature of the 70D and there was zero warning it was coming.... I wouldn't even be surprised if Canon had some fake specs circulating around to see where any leaks were coming from... The only thing I am sure of is that the rumours will not be 100 percent accurate....

 

[Lee Jay]

Re: EOS 7D Mark II & Photokina

I still say it's possible that it's the 70D sensor and new technology (better performance) at the same time. This is because it's possible that DIGIC 6 will reduce read noise from the same sensor compared to DIGIC 5+ in the 70D.

 

[Maui5150]

Re: EOS 7D Mark II & Photokina

Curious to see. IF it is a 24MP with better HIGH ISO and stellar AF AND around $2K or less, than I should be in. Really will have to wait and see the final specs, but really want better than 20MB, solid AF with a wider spread... and improved ISO (5d MKIII or better) than I will be fairly happy

 

[Loswr]

Re: EOS 7D Mark II & Photokina

... and improved ISO (5d MKIII or better)

I do believe in Santa Claus. I do I do I do. And flying reindeer. And rainbow-pooping unicorns. Any of those are more likely to be real than an APS-C sensor that's as good or better than the 5DIII at high ISO.

In a fight between physics and fantasy, my money is on physics. 8)

 

[Don Haines]

Re: EOS 7D Mark II & Photokina

... and improved ISO (5d MKIII or better)

I do believe in Santa Claus. I do I do I do. And flying reindeer. And rainbow-pooping unicorns. Any of those are more likely to be real than an APS-C sensor that's as good or better than the 5DIII at high ISO.

In a fight between physics and fantasy, my money is on physics. 8)

and you loose!

I'll take the photo scanner from BladeRunner (it can zoom in and in and in and read things off of the reflection of something that was around a corner) over the best current sensor any day..... and the main screen on the enterprise beats any 4K display for sale at Best Buy

 

[unfocused]

Re: EOS 7D Mark II & Photokina

If it doesn't have flashing LED lights Canon is doomed.

http://photorumors.com/2014/08/27/pentax-k-s1-dslr-camera-with-fancy-led-lights-officially-announced/#more-60114

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

Re: EOS 7D Mark II & Photokina

If it doesn't have flashing LED lights Canon is doomed.

http://photorumors.com/2014/08/27/pentax-k-s1-dslr-camera-with-fancy-led-lights-officially-announced/#more-60114

Man, I do not know how I could shoot so many years without LED flashing:
Steal me, steal me, steal me, steal me.

 

[Maui5150]

Re: EOS 7D Mark II & Photokina

... and improved ISO (5d MKIII or better)

I do believe in Santa Claus. I do I do I do. And flying reindeer. And rainbow-pooping unicorns. Any of those are more likely to be real than an APS-C sensor that's as good or better than the 5DIII at high ISO.

In a fight between physics and fantasy, my money is on physics. 8)

You are so mean!

Not like the 5D MKIII is really setting the bar too high. I notice a lot of noise above ISO 800)