7DII vs Samsung NX1

chmteacher

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Everything most of you seem to be looking for is in the NX1 except Canon compatible lenses. Here's a comparison from thenewcamera.com. What do you think?
 

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There is no Samsung anything that is remotely comparable to professional Canon gear. Even if every spec comes to fruition as listed, they are still two totally different markets. Samsung will produce good consumer grade results with lots of perceived bells and whistles, while the Canon though SEEMINGLY less sexy will blow it off the mark and will continue to be the professional's top choice. Camera is worthless without glass. Samsung isn't there yet by a longshot.
 
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Since this thing uses ISOCELL, I suspect it should have very good color fidelity. Color bleed or crosstalk is one of the big issues with Canon cameras. Not for the same reason that ISOCELL was created...that was designed to fix a crosstalk problem due to BSI designs. Canon cameras use a very weak CFA, which allows less pure colors to be sensed by each color pixel. Same result in the end, though...more washed out color.

Which brings me to another thought...if this sensor is ISOCELL, then it's probably BSI. So Samsung has an APS-C sized BSI sensor design with ISOCELL? WOW...I guess that high end small form factor technology I'm often raving about is finally starting to trickle up the chain. If this puppy really is a large form factor BSI, then I'm very interested in seeing it's high ISO performance. I actually believe the 51200 is entirely possible, and high ISO IQ on the NX1 should be quite good.

I wonder if it's mount can be adapted to Canon EF lenses...
 
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15fps ?? 150 cross type AF points ?? Holy Cow.

I think my Son just bought one of these to replace his 6D, Just need to let him know ;)

Agree with jrista, if this Baby lives up to the hype, has a reasonable Lens line up, it's an amazing development.

For those that feel Samsung can't live in the same space as Sony, Nikon & Canon, just reflect on how they are doing against the Giants of the telecom world, they've certainly been able to put the fear into Apple, can't see any reason they couldn't do the same to Canon et all, love it.

Just another indication that other companies seem to be pushing innovation, Canon ?? Not so much at present.

This also may help John, no idea how well it would work, but the Otus 55/85 on this is giving me a nervous twitch.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/995046-REG/fotodiox_eos_nx_samsung_nx_camera_lens.html
 
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unfocused said:
chmteacher said:
Everything most five or six of you seem to be looking for is in the NX1 except Canon compatible lenses. Here's a comparison from thenewcamera.com. What do you think?

I think I corrected your post.

No correction required. Try thinking beyond your brand. Who wouldn't want greater FPS and AF points let alone wi-fi, ISO, etc.
 
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chmteacher said:
unfocused said:
chmteacher said:
Everything most five or six of you seem to be looking for is in the NX1 except Canon compatible lenses. Here's a comparison from thenewcamera.com. What do you think?

I think I corrected your post.

Who wouldn't want greater FPS and AF points let alone wi-fi, ISO, etc.

Assuming those features work well, everyone would want them available. If you're a landscape shooter who doesn't use high ISO or wi-fi would you buy this camera? And if it doesn't have the lenses you want/need then suddenly it's not such a good fit. For some this will be a great body, and I certainly cheer for any advances in mirrorless bodies, but until there's a complete system of lenses and accessories, it can't satisfy every photographer.
 
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I've been very disappointed in Canon's latest offerings. I would not take a 7D2 as a gift because it doesn't fit into my changing shooting style. Plus Canon doesn't have the primes I need, except for the EF 85mm f/1.8.

Looks like the Samsung NX1 would fit my present needs (mirrorless, EVF, etc) They have an 85mm f/1.4 that from what I've seen posted, seems like an excellent lens http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/757447-REG/Samsung_EX_T85SB_85mm_F1_4_ED_SSA.html But all the rest of their lenses are oh-so-cute pancakes. Meh!

BTW Samsung cameras are not inexpensive. My guess is that the NX1 will be more expensive than a Canon 70D or an Olympus E-M1.
 
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jrista said:
Since this thing uses ISOCELL, I suspect it should have very good color fidelity. Color bleed or crosstalk is one of the big issues with Canon cameras. Not for the same reason that ISOCELL was created...that was designed to fix a crosstalk problem due to BSI designs. Canon cameras use a very weak CFA, which allows less pure colors to be sensed by each color pixel. Same result in the end, though...more washed out color.

Which brings me to another thought...if this sensor is ISOCELL, then it's probably BSI. So Samsung has an APS-C sized BSI sensor design with ISOCELL? WOW...I guess that high end small form factor technology I'm often raving about is finally starting to trickle up the chain. If this puppy really is a large form factor BSI, then I'm very interested in seeing it's high ISO performance. I actually believe the 51200 is entirely possible, and high ISO IQ on the NX1 should be quite good.

I wonder if it's mount can be adapted to Canon EF lenses...

My galaxy S5 has this ISOCELL tech which they made a big deal during the release. It has PDAF during video and pretty good continuous AF. I can also tap on the screen and do MF (focus pulling like 70d). Not sure if they have similar kind of duel pixel implemented in 70D. Apple also announced similar thing with Iphone 6 which they made big deal during the release.
 
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gerlesion said:
28.2 Megapixel sensor with capability of shooting 15 frames per second. Faster than 1 DX. Is it fastest image sensor up to date?

Let's wait, if it means 15fps in RAW. It may be only 15fps in JPEG, add a small buffer to it and it only look good on paper. If it's truly 28MPix at 15fps in RAW, then I'll have to find my jaw under the table - that would be an amazing feat indeed.
 
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i am curious what canon has to say about this question:

3) The 7D line has been a bestseller in the enthusiast market for the past 5 years but the new model barely moves an inch forwards from the cheaper 70D. After such a long period of time was it Canon’s intention to position the 6D as the real 7D replacement and if so, how do you excuse such poor video quality on the 6D considering the enthusiasts it is aimed at? For video it is not a low end product but it performs like one.

http://www.eoshd.com/2014/09/10-questions-ill-asking-canon-nikon-photokina-join-present/
 
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