The painful reality of vacation photography

LovePhotography

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So, my two kids and I went to the Cancun area for 3 days. I took an entire backpack of Canon stuff. 6D body and lenses: 8-15mm, Sigma 24-105mm art, 70-200 mm 2.8 mk2, 1.4 x TCiii, and 2 x TCiii. And I took every damn shot... all 450+ of them with my iPhone6+. Never even opened up the camera backpack. :((
Why? Sand, salt, convenience, sunscreen oil, weight, theft, moving fast, impatient teenagers, hands full with towels, snorkels, passports, and whatever else. Think I'm gonna shoot myself.

But you know what, the reason I kept shooting with the iPhone6+? The shots kept turning out. (Except telephoto.... awful).
 
So true. There is a good lesson there. Sometimes one camera is all that's really needed, and that one camera may well be an iPhone. A lot of people have come to that conclusion, and so camera sales are way down. A possible compromise, if you want to take the 6D on vacation, is to use it with a 40mm pancake lens exclusively. It's a much more manageable enterprise, though still not as easy as an iPhone.
 
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I've got a couple EOS-M's, but didn't take them.
What I learned is, the iPhone6+ is very good when not zoomed in, but falls off super fast when zooming....
Here's two pics.... one with moderate zoom, the other practically no zoom. Huge difference...
 
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But, zoom in on the island in the distance? No, thank you...
(It didn't look this bad when viewed on the phone). Had I known, I would have been more likely to crank out the 6D and the 70-200mm....
 

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If you pack a full kit like that and travel with your family, you are, in essence, forcing your family to participate (passively) in your photography hobby. Few things are more boring to a non-photographer than having to wait for a photographer to do his or her stuff. :)

I would only carry a full kit like that if I were

1. Traveling alone
2. Traveling with another photographer

But when traveling with family, I find that I need to keep the photography interference to a minimum and besides you kinda want to spend vacation with your family and not have your family tag along as you vacation with your photography kit.

I don't have a cell phone camera, but there are some pretty good compact P&S cameras that will do nicely keeping the family happy while still allowing you to take some nice pictures.

Vacations, family, and photography can be a complicated issue. Good luck with it.
 
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AcutancePhotography said:
If you pack a full kit like that and travel with your family, you are, in essence, forcing your family to participate (passively) in your photography hobby. Few things are more boring to a non-photographer than having to wait for a photographer to do his or her stuff. :)

I would only carry a full kit like that if I were

1. Traveling alone
2. Traveling with another photographer

But when traveling with family, I find that I need to keep the photography interference to a minimum and besides you kinda want to spend vacation with your family and not have your family tag along as you vacation with your photography kit.

I don't have a cell phone camera, but there are some pretty good compact P&S cameras that will do nicely keeping the family happy while still allowing you to take some nice pictures.

Vacations, family, and photography can be a complicated issue. Good luck with it.

+1

I got a used Olympus Pen EPL-5 with 20/1.7 and 40-150 (40 and 80-300 equivalent FL) and a tiny Tamrac shoulder bag for family trips, so I've got nearly the size and simplicity of a smart phone with nearly the IQ of a DSLR. Very acceptable compromise, and doesn't slow down the activities or weigh me down. I've had the experience the OP describes too many times to count toting a full DSLR kit.
 
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I don't think its 'painful' embrace it!

I totally agree with the 40 pancake comment above, my wife takes pics with her smart phone and does all that social media crud I get to take a little bit of time over my shots, trade off and balance ;D

I've started to play a little challenges game with myself of late, knowing where I'm going choose only one lens..... work with it, frankly I've found this incredible fun and actually quite liberating
Have I missed shots, yes. Did the world stop spinning, of course not. I also know I got shots though because I wasn't pratting about with lenses :P

What I get is a nice photo book with a page or two of smaller (because of the quality) phone pic montages, it's inclusive and those brownie points sure go a long way, win win!

Regards
 
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Totally understand your pain. Last year we had our family vacation to Utah. At each hiking trail, I was carrying my then 1 1/2 son on my back. He's about 28lbs. The carrier is about 4lbs. I was also carrying a waist camera bag with 6d, 24-70 2.8, 16-35, 70-200 f4. For certain trails I even brought along my 4lb tripod. I definitely got tired more quickly than without the equipment. On the other hand when I went over the pictures in LR I feel glad that I brought my gear.

My son is even heavier now. I'd have to leave behind 24-70 if we were to have a similar trip this year.

I don't want to spend thousands of dollars to visit a place then regret taking unsatisfactory photos. I have a crappy phone so I don't have this struggle. My phone camera is only good enough for taking pictures of receipts.
 
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LovePhotography said:
So, my two kids and I went to the Cancun area for 3 days. I took an entire backpack of Canon stuff. 6D body and lenses: 8-15mm, Sigma 24-105mm art, 70-200 mm 2.8 mk2, 1.4 x TCiii, and 2 x TCiii. And I took every damn shot... all 450+ of them with my iPhone6+. Never even opened up the camera backpack. :((
Why? Sand, salt, convenience, sunscreen oil, weight, theft, moving fast, impatient teenagers, hands full with towels, snorkels, passports, and whatever else. Think I'm gonna shoot myself.

But you know what, the reason I kept shooting with the iPhone6+? The shots kept turning out. (Except telephoto.... awful).

Sounds like you took some excellent shots to record your 3 day vacation with your kids. Typically for that you need nothing less than an iphone. It really depends on what you are going to do on your vacation. If I were going to go seek out local wildlife, macro beach shots, underwater diving photography on the vacation, the iphone just would not do. It's a matter of planning and deciding what is important on your trip.

Is it for you to have a vacation and enjoy your hobby? Or is it your kids vacation and you are just there to chauffeur and supervise? You can't have both unless you have some time planned for you to get away to do your thing.

I think you did the best you could considering the time frame and purpose of the trip.
 
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AcutancePhotography said:
If you pack a full kit like that and travel with your family, you are, in essence, forcing your family to participate (passively) in your photography hobby. Few things are more boring to a non-photographer than having to wait for a photographer to do his or her stuff. :)

I would only carry a full kit like that if I were

1. Traveling alone
2. Traveling with another photographer

But when traveling with family, I find that I need to keep the photography interference to a minimum and besides you kinda want to spend vacation with your family and not have your family tag along as you vacation with your photography kit.

I don't have a cell phone camera, but there are some pretty good compact P&S cameras that will do nicely keeping the family happy while still allowing you to take some nice pictures.

Vacations, family, and photography can be a complicated issue. Good luck with it.

So very well said!

If all you want are snapshots, why bring a bag of gear? If all you have time for are snapshots, why bring a bag of gear?

Actually, it was a bit nuts to bring so much gear on a family vacation. I've done it. I've brought a trunkful of gear on vacations, light stands and all. Visited family last Thanksgiving and took 15 minutes just bringing the gear into the guest bedroom. Nuts!

Truly, a dSLR and bag full of lenses was not the suitable tool for the fun in this Cancun trip. I don't think this is a good example of why dSLR sales have fallen. You took nice snapshots with your iPhone. In the past, the family photographer probably would have taken the same pics with a SureShot, or, before that, an Instamatic.

So this might be a good example of why point and shoot sales are down--the phone is a Swiss Army knife with a good snapshot camera!
 
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I have done that several times, too, and now I usually just bring a camera and 1-2 lenses at most. I don't have kids, which makes it easier, but I'll sneak off for a bit at sunrise or sunset for an hour or so to grab some shots while my wife gets ready for dinner or something. During the rest of the time on the trip, however, I'll use the EOS M, or I just enjoy the experience and don't fool with taking photos.
 
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Most of my vacations these days are road trips (no airline luggage restrictions) with just my wife and myself. We visit a lot of parks and other natural attractions, and do a good bit of hiking. I take a generous selection of camera gear with me, and will frequently spend a few minutes setting up a tripod to get shots of us with nice backgrounds. My wife is fine with that, because she enjoys the images we bring home. (She carries only her PowerShot S95, which I don't like to use because of the lack of an OVF.)

But when we go on a trip like you've described, I'll only carry an old body (usually my 20D; it's the only one I have with a built-in flash) and a single lens (lately, my 35/2 IS) and a Gorillapod. Small kit, uncomplicated setup, and if something happens to it, little financial loss.
 
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wsheldon said:
AcutancePhotography said:
If you pack a full kit like that and travel with your family, you are, in essence, forcing your family to participate (passively) in your photography hobby. Few things are more boring to a non-photographer than having to wait for a photographer to do his or her stuff. :)

I would only carry a full kit like that if I were

1. Traveling alone
2. Traveling with another photographer

But when traveling with family, I find that I need to keep the photography interference to a minimum and besides you kinda want to spend vacation with your family and not have your family tag along as you vacation with your photography kit.

I don't have a cell phone camera, but there are some pretty good compact P&S cameras that will do nicely keeping the family happy while still allowing you to take some nice pictures.

Vacations, family, and photography can be a complicated issue. Good luck with it.

+1

I got a used Olympus Pen EPL-5 with 20/1.7 and 40-150 (40 and 80-300 equivalent FL) and a tiny Tamrac shoulder bag for family trips, so I've got nearly the size and simplicity of a smart phone with nearly the IQ of a DSLR. Very acceptable compromise, and doesn't slow down the activities or weigh me down. I've had the experience the OP describes too many times to count toting a full DSLR kit.

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I used to take 5DII and 24-105 for travel, now I have M with 18-55 and EFS55-250 with an adapter, in a small Quantaray camcorder bag. The whole kit is lighter than 5DII and image quality is good. I have a phone with a camera but it would never be used as a main picture taking tool, even when on vacation :)
 
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We had Sony RX1 prior the break-in. We carried it around everywhere we go due to the size and weight. With two kids(4&6yrs), smaller camera is very handy for us. Tracking kids running with mirrorless is almost impossible, however, I still can get the shots when they run - kinda likes DSLR in single shot mode.

I've been thinking about my future camera gear, 50% mirrorless and 50% DSLR.
 
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Timing of this is right behind my own vacation last week during spring break. I guess I kinda shot in the middle, gear-wise. Skip down a bit if you don't want to read my philosophical comments. ;) For me, getting good shots with a phone isn't about the quality of the phone camera, it's about the cumbersome way it works for me, lack of decent zoom and hard to see the display in sunlight. But the concept is sound, using a basic, easy to carry device to get shots that are good enough!

Disclaimer: I normally do a LOT of travelling with a LOT of gear with our scout troop to weekend campouts, summer camps and even Philmont for 10+ days in the back country living out of a single backpack. So it's not worrying about the gear and logistics that scare or stop me from taking expensive gear with me places.

Or is it? There is something about a family trip that is different. It's a different dynamic. And another few factors for me on this trip were...

- Multiple plane rides... DFW - Houston - Belize - Palcencia - Boat to Hatchet Caye - I went from a regional jet to a large plane to a puddle jumper to a boat. Carrying any more than I carried on the plane (a backpack and a bag that would fit in the overheads) would have been ridiculous considering we had 5 checked bags for the family of four already. When planes are involved, the logistics get a lot harder. Why risk, worry or kill myself with weight unless it's absolutely necessary?

- Lots of beach, boat and salt water... Our destination was an tiny island that no matter where you stood, you could see the ocean from all directions. Yes. About the size (or smaller) than a city block. Where does a lot of expensive gear fit in here? Yes, I could have taken it, used it and protected it. And I would have had great shots of the beach, sunset/sunrise and the ocean horizon and boats. That's not where most of the "action" shots were. We snorkeled, scuba dived, sailed, etc. So the big expensive gear would have stayed in the room most of the time.

- Gear Hassle for What?... What did we do? We laid around, ate, read and did the daytime activities on boats away from the island. I didn't go to set up tripods and capture the 'perfect' ocean view image. What is the point of carrying $5K+ worth of camera and lens around to capture a few snapshots of dinner? Where do I put it? On the table in the way where something will get spilled on it? On the floor where there is sand? On a chair that actually doesn't exist because there are just enough chairs for the guests? On the bar? In my lap?

So what did I do/take? I went for a middle compromise. Last summer I went to Philmont and lived out of a backpack for 10+ days. I wanted better photography than I got in 2012 by just taking a Canon Powershot D20 tough cam. (Even though the 2012 trip with the D20 was heaven logistically!) So I rigged up a great way to carry a Canon SL1 with a Tamron 18-270 superzoom at my chest suspended from the pack straps. I packed a Canon 10-22 EF-S lens in the pack for wider shots in camps and at programs. That was it. And that's what I took for this trip. I added a CPL and I took the Canon 270 EX-II for better light. Then, for the water stuff, I took the Canon D20. (I also took a borrowed GoPro Hero 3+ but it wouldn't turn on reliably so that was a waste of time.) I also took my Canon S120 for better quality P&S shots while travelling or when I didn't want to carry or grab the SL1.

That's it. And it all fit easily in my carry-on backpack. Did I miss having my best gear? Meh. Maybe a little in some cases like when I was shooting my sons playing soccer with the staff in almost low shade light. But I got some good shots even if the SL1+18-270 isn't as good as my 7D2-70-200 rig I use now for swimming/sports. And the S120 and D20 use the same battery and all three cameras use SD cards.

Sometimes it's more about enjoying the trip, getting a break from cameras, technology, the world in general and things we think we must have to be content. I didn't want to deal with more junk to pack, manage or worry about. What I took was enough to manage as it was. And I still had RAW files to work with in Lightroom when I got home. OK, so I had to do more editing, push and stretch the images more than I should. So what? In the end, no one really cares. I'm not trying to win awards or make money from these images, I'm just trying to capture the moments. And I still took about 1100+ images with all the cameras which netted about 460 keepers, some of which were taken for other guests for their enjoyment.

Remember, the best camera is the one you have with you! And if that camera is an iPhone and the images are good enough, then you're good to go! I carry high end gear around all over the place, often in dirty and challenging environments. It doesn't mean I want to do that on my vacation! Sometimes, the KISS principle is the best way to go.

If you're wondering how the vacation shots turned out, here they are. Not my best work and no apologies for that either. In 20 years, I bet they will still be sufficient to remind me of the trip.

http://rustythegeek.zenfolio.com/belize2015
 
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Simple solutions, decide if your a tourist or a photographer.

Plan your vacations around areas you would like to photograph.
The area you went appears great for beach shots of girls in bikinis. Depending on your wife's attitude about this you might have to leave her at home next time.

Get backpacks for those teenagers so they can carry your gear. Sure they complain, but take advantage of them now because in a few years they will be grown and gone.

Sand, salt and grime. Just clean your gear when your done.
 
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